News agencies stand by veracity of Lebanon bombing photos

Associated Press ^ | 8/1/06 | DAVID BAUDER

[Alouette]

[traviskicks]

Their latest post:
http://eureferendum.blogspot.com/2006/08/we-need-to-know-truth.html

There have been some perfectly sound questions about our reliance on the datelines offered by the agencies so we will not rely on the timing. We do not know for certain whether this picture was taken before or after the others. We can assume this is the last in the sequence - that would be a logical assumption, but still an assumption. We do not see the doors closed and the vehicle drive off.

Nothing here is conclusive evidence of the shots being posed. I think it is fair to say, however, that there are unanswered questions and good reason for suspicion - and this is but one sequence. We will also look in more detail at the others.

[monkeyshine]

The blogosphere will eventually destroy the MSM. Chip away at them piece by piece. And they deserve it. Whether this instance is staged or not is irrelevent to that bigger change that is occurring worldwide. The MSM is not only losing credibility among large segments of the populations, but they are losing the interests of the populations because the people want so much more information than they are structurally capable of giving. All they can do is churn out stories, which they select to churn out, and fit into the column inches they assign. The blogosphere has no such limits, can be dynamic and multimedia. Eventually the better product will win.

AP, Reuters, AFP have to change significantly to survive. They have to accept feedback and direct challenges. In the past the media was the way to challenge the government, but they grew monolithic and eventually found themselves in bed with larger interests. Now, they too have to be challenged. The sooner the better.

[tobyhill]

That would be actually very interesting to see them frogmarched in front of a judge.

[monkeyshine]

Wow I am shocked. Those images at your link defy all reason. They should be called to task specifically on those images, and not allowed to weasle out with bland statements of shock at the allegations.

Answer the allegations directly, just like you, the MSM, demand of others!

[Blood of Tyrants]

Don't forget the 30 foot banner of Condi Rice with the Qana caption that went up within 3-4 hours of the collapse of the building despite the testimony of several in the business who say AT LEAST 6-8 hours for the printing alone, never mind the design time, and everything else involved.

[ExTexasRedhead]

Meanwhile, we can pray that there are mass layoffs in the news media as their circulation continues to plummet. Where will all the Liberal reporters go to find work? They can all apply for work at Al-Jazeera.

[tobyhill]

It's amazing how the MSM and Press through all their distorted reporting have forgotten all about the kidnapped Israeli Soldiers.

[bvw]

One child per family volunteers:

"Volunteering." -- In 1982, the German weekly Der Spiegel documented the story of a twelve-year-old boy named Hossein, who enlisted with the Basiji despite having polio:

One day, some unknown imams turned up in the village. They called the whole population to the plaza in front of the police station, and they announced that they came with good news from Imam Khomeini: The Islamic Army of Iran had been chosen to liberate the holy city Al Quds--Jerusalem--from the infidels. ... The local mullah had decided that every family with children would have to furnish one soldier of God. Because Hossein was the most easily expendable for his family, and because, in light of his illness, he could in any case not expect much happiness in this life, he was chosen by his father to represent the family in the struggle against the infidel devils.

Of the 20 children that went into battle with Hossein, only he and two others survived.

Source: http://www.tnr.com/doc.mhtml?i=20060424&s=kuntzel042406

[ASOC]

I am sure they will say it was handpainted or the like.

The photos at the linked site are damning to say the least. And yet the MSM claims objectivity.

Brings to mind a quote from a G&S operetta -
"(Do you mean that in order to save his contemptible life), he dared to impress upon our credulous simplicity?"

[Grateful One]

Geez, if this is true, we might even see the day when a major news network might even stage false crash tests on autos!

What's it coming to?

[justiceseeker93]

And what about "Green Helmet Guy" apparing over and over again in a variety of different poses - some with and some without the helmet, some with different clothing than the others?

Right out of Hizbollywood!

[UCANSEE2]

Yeah. The timestamps. The only defect they can defend.

The man in the green shirt? Why is he the same guy that did the same thing in Qana 1 ?

Why does he not have gloves on when pulling the dead body out of the carnage, but later he has them on?

Why is every person in all the pictures, no matter how far away, looking directly at the camera?

I could go on and on.

All Staged. Camera crews not allowed too close. Directed on what to photograph. When, Where.

[okie01]

“It’s hard to imagine how someone sitting in an air-conditioned office or broadcast studio many thousands of miles from the scene can decide what occurred on the ground with any degree of accuracy,” said Kathleen Carroll, AP’s senior vice president and executive editor.

And exactly where were you, Kathleen, honey?

[JustDoItAlways]

There has got to be CONSEQUENCES for these people.

And the consequence cannot be getting a promotion for an award-winning photo.

These guys have got to be fired, prosecuted, executed, something, because the world needs to have real facts for once.

There is too much on the line for there to be no consequences for journalists (so far Freepers have gotten a few like Rather) but every one of them needs to get journalistic integrity back or they should face real consequences.

[FreeAtlanta]

Excellent comparison;

The Los Angeles Times fires photographer Brian Walski: March 31, 2003

Walski combined two photographs taken moments apart to create a more dramatic composition, a practice in violation of the paper's policy.

Walski: "When I saw it, I probably just said, no one is going to know. I don’t know. I’ve tweaked pictures before—taken out a phone pole. It’s not a common practice, but you can do it. I can’t speak for anyone else, but I imagine they’ve done it here and there. This was going overboard—taking pictures and putting them together. I think it’s just that I wanted a better image. Then when I did it, I didn’t even think about it." [From a PDN interview no longer on the web.]
[LA Times' Editor's Note]

Thoughtful discussion of the photojournalism and Photoshopping in Pedro Meyer's: "In Defense of Patrick Schneider," an editorial in Zone|Zero.

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[Palladin]

I do not believe a word that is said by AP, Reuters, or Agence-France Press. They are cooperating with the enemy in this barrage of propaganda.

[Political Junkie Too]

I see an even simpler explanation for the timestamps than even the rebutters used. I'm hesitant to mention it, because yesterday I asked why there were no survivors and then they pulled an old woman out from the rubble. I also do not know the way that professional photographers manage their equipment, so it would just be speculation on my part.

Anyay, if these timestamps are not posting timestamps, but rather the camera stored timestamps that are embedded into the picture when taken, the obvious question is: where do the photographers come from and what time zones do they set their camera's clocks to? Do professional photographers all set their camera clocks to UTC time or local time? If photographers come from all over the world, could one assume that their cameras would record different times for the same event because their camera clocks are set to different home time zones?

I agree that this doesn't answer the other valid questions.

-PJ

p.s. I hope I don't see this explanation in the papers tomorrow...

[Anti-Bubba182]

This article is on the top section at Lucianne.com.

[RasterMaster]

Of course the press (mouth-piece for Osama) would stand by the photos, propaganda is their business.