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Was Qana Staged? Cont'd (Memogate II?)
NRO Corner ^ | July 31, 2006 | Jonah Goldberg

Posted on 08/01/2006 1:48:42 AM PDT by Anti-Bubba182

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To: Piranha

Nope, most solent based prints are dried as they come off the printer. Print and then sew or weld the pieces together, no drying time needed.


241 posted on 08/02/2006 3:09:08 PM PDT by giobruno
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To: All

Qana deathtoll reduced to 28! courtesy Al Reuters...

Human Rights Watch puts Qana death toll at 28
02 Aug 2006 22:11:27 GMT
Source: Al Reuters

NEW YORK, Aug 2 (Reuters) - The U.S.-based rights watchdog Human Rights Watch on Wednesday put the death toll from an Israeli air strike at the Lebanese village of Qana at 28 and 13 missing, below the official Lebanese figure of 54 dead.

The incident on July 30 was one of the deadliest strikes in the 22-day-old war between Israel and the Lebanese-based Hizbollah guerrillas and jolted international efforts to resolve the conflict.

"The initial estimate of 54 persons killed was based on a register of 63 persons who had sought shelter in the basement of the building that was struck, and rescue teams having located nine survivors," Human Rights Watch said in a statement on Wednesday.

"It now appears that at least 22 people escaped the basement, and 28 are confirmed dead, according to records from the Lebanese Red Cross and the government hospital in Tyre," Human Right Watch said in a statement. It gave the names and ages of those killed.

The other 13 people were missing and presumed by some Qana residents to be buried in the rubble.

Of the 28 dead, 16 were children, Human Rights Watch said.

The group said it based its report in part on interviews with two witnesses to the Qana attack, one who was in the building during the strike and a second person who lived in the neighborhood and assisted in the recovery.

The U.N. Security Council on Sunday unanimously adopted a statement deploring the attack and asked U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan to report within a week "on the circumstances of this tragic incident."

Israel has called Qana a hub of Hizbollah activity, which some Lebanese sources have disputed.

Human Rights Watch said Israel had said the military targeted the house because Hizbollah fighters had fired rockets from the area. The group said its own researchers who visited Qana on July 31 did not find any destroyed military equipment in or near the home.

"Rescue workers recovered no bodies of apparent Hizbollah fighters from inside or near the building," Human Rights Watch said.


242 posted on 08/02/2006 6:32:45 PM PDT by balk (Vive le Canada libre... des Libereaux)
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To: xzins

If I understand correctly, the design isn't very time consuming. It's the printing, knitting, preparation and transport that takes awhile, even with state of the art equipment.


243 posted on 08/02/2006 6:38:03 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: LucidListless
Hezbollah is famous for their brutal Islamofascist terror tactics and for their soulful graphic artistry.

LOL. I like your sense of humor!

244 posted on 08/02/2006 6:42:57 PM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Qana..."Islamic Performance Art." Matinees daily.


245 posted on 08/02/2006 7:53:08 PM PDT by N. Beaujon (http://www.nbeaujon.com)
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To: stlnative

Are those pictures all one-piece, and locally printed?


246 posted on 08/03/2006 7:47:02 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Excuse_My_Bellicosity

***They had high-dollar help from people who knew when and where to be.***

Whenever these episodes occur, the name "George Soros" always comes to mind...


247 posted on 08/03/2006 7:59:58 AM PDT by nanetteclaret (And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee…Genesis 12:3)
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To: randita
I think it's been speculated that this company could do it: http://www.roland-lb.com/

up to 104" wide (just over 8 and a half feet)...that poster is at least 12 feet wide. It also does that relatively narrow strip at 484 sq ft/hr at lowest resolution of 360 dpi... and a maximum roll weight of 220 lbs.

print speed drops off dramatically with higher resolutions. (the printer on the next page http://www.roland-lb.com/printing_1.htm can get up to 75 sq ft/min at 720*720, in bidirectional mode.

248 posted on 08/03/2006 8:01:33 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: stlnative
Simply someone there has one of these $350,000 superwide billboard inkjet printers.

It's hard to tell with the Coke ad whether it's one piece or not (and that's also the type of thing that gets shipped)...but aside from that one, the only one with an object that suggests scale shows one that is probably only 8' tall.

249 posted on 08/03/2006 8:21:57 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: stlnative

First one does magazines. Second one does up to 104"*74". Third one does mostly small-scale sutff but does include "billboards" among their products with no specifics as to size or techniques. The largest thing that they show is about 4' wide.


250 posted on 08/03/2006 8:30:01 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: stlnative
it seems that I always forget something - They also make Black Matte Banner Vinyl This is white. You can see it in the picture where they are hanging the banner.

I do wonder if the draw next to the right of her eyes is indicative of sewing.

251 posted on 08/03/2006 8:46:18 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Nice50BMG
10' x 30' Banner = 300 sqft.

That banner is more than 10' wide.

252 posted on 08/03/2006 8:55:08 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Raycpa

I have said this for several days now, but it comes up against fairly deaf ears on FR. While it may be unlikely for a poster like this to be made from scratch on short notice, that mentality adds an unnecessary dimension to the project.

That is, it doesn't have to have been created from scratch in a matter of a few hours.

It was clear Dr Rice was going to the region, and the bad guys knew that for as many as 8-10 days before the poster was revealed. Plenty of time to prep the graphic, and leave the text off.

When an opportune situation came up, they add the text to the poster. That can be done by hand in a few hours.

I have no idea why this straightforward concept is so difficult for so many folks around here to wrap their minds around.


253 posted on 08/03/2006 8:56:00 AM PDT by HitmanLV ("If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking until you do succeed." - Jerry 'Curly' Howard)
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To: zot
From the size of the men, it is obvious that poster is at least 20 feet wide.

Probably not 20, but 14-16 seems likely. Certainly well more than the 8.5' used for billboards, or the 10' Isreali-made printer suggested.

254 posted on 08/03/2006 9:03:46 AM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: lepton
I worked for a large commercial type printing co. Not all our machines were listed on our company website. So the equipment you see listed on the websites is probably not a list of all the machines they have, especially if this machine was acquired in the last 6 months or so.
255 posted on 08/03/2006 9:51:13 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Of course it is true.

They are finding only about 28 dead bodies. Not the huge amount first reported by TV -- falsely at that.


256 posted on 08/03/2006 9:53:19 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: stlnative
I worked for a large commercial type printing co. Not all our machines were listed on our company website. So the equipment you see listed on the websites is probably not a list of all the machines they have, especially if this machine was acquired in the last 6 months or so.

Did your company promote that it could do prints as large as x when it really could do 2x?

Regardless, the links you cite show a consistant cap at 104" (or even print magazines and calendars, which are irrelevant), which is not a proof that "they" can do 14'-16' wide prints, or even really a suggestion.

I'm not making the argument that this proves that the banners were pre-ordered in preparation for the event, but for those that make that argument, repeatedly citing machines capable of not more than 8.6' hardly addresses it.

257 posted on 08/03/2006 1:59:51 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: Anti-Bubba182

I think the ordered that from the demo rats website.


258 posted on 08/04/2006 5:23:42 PM PDT by stickandpucknut
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To: stickandpucknut

the banner that is the bush nazi one was sold out.


259 posted on 08/04/2006 5:26:42 PM PDT by stickandpucknut
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To: HAL9000

That banner isn't stitched, as far as I can see. It looks like the entire think is silk-screened; a long process when you consider the size of that thing!


260 posted on 08/04/2006 10:36:25 PM PDT by SuziQ
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