Was Qana Staged? Cont'd (Memogate II?)

NRO Corner ^ | July 31, 2006 | Jonah Goldberg

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Monday, July 31, 2006 Was Qana Staged? Cont'd [Jonah Goldberg] A giant banner denouncing Rice and the "Qana massacre" might have been made a bit too quickly. I don't want to get too far out ahead on this, but I know we've got a zillion printer-type folks among our readers. Do you guys think such a banner could be made in 2-4 hours (particularly in a supposedly war-ravaged area)? Update: From a reader: "Do you guys think such a banner could be made in 2-4 hours (particularly in a supposedly war-ravaged area)?" Heck no. A designer could throw it together in probably 15 minutes or so, but the longest part would be the printing. Notice how deep the reds and blacks are - this means they didn't just bust it out. I wouldnt be surprised if that job itself (requiring special equipment, as it looks to be printed on canvas or nylon, not merely paper) took 6 hours simply to print. Also, that puppy would be expensive. Update II: From a reader: Nope. Not possible in 2 hours to design, typeset, print, assemble and transport to the site. 24 hours if you're really good to do all the above. I say that as an career commercial artist of 18 years now. Update III: From another reader: called a close friend who has a very large printing company in NY with the question.  he called out to one of his technicians as to how long a color 30 foot banner would take to produce.  the response was that it would have to be done by a special machine and that machine would take "5 to 6 hours."     by the way, their rather enormous, state of the art (less than 6 months old) facility doesn't even have the equipment necessary to do it.  so make a guess as to what's available in a war-ravaged area...   Posted at 5:29 PM

[WilliamofCarmichael]

I like the word Hezbollywood because it fits the influence of Hezbolla, et al. on our drive-by media.

I have no TV but I've heard audio of TV "reports" and it seems that radical Islam produces and directs the "news" feeds from over there.

Radio "news" (ABC, CNN, even Fox) mimics TV.

[GreyFriar]

Ping.

[Chickenhawk Warmonger]

OK here's a link that shows the banner being unfurled... Maybe that will help in the sleuthing...

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/060730/ids_photos_wl/r465998861.jpg

The caption:
Lebanese protesters unfold a poster of U.S. Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice during a protest in Beirut, July 30, 2006 after an Israeli air raid on Qana, killed more than 54 people, 37 of them children, in south Lebanon, July 30, 2006.

[freema]

Should we test the theory and do McKinney? ; )

[zot]

Thanks for the ping. It does look as though this poster was prepared in advance for just this use.

[zot]

From the size of the men, it is obvious that poster is at least 20 feet wide.

[Anti-Bubba182]

The fact that they feel the need to issue that statement means they are worried. Photographers can be as corrupt as the reporters and a lot of their stuff is shot by locals and maybe that is the case here.

[Excuse_My_Bellicosity]

"Do you guys think such a banner could be made in 2-4 hours (particularly in a supposedly war-ravaged area)?"

The Iraqi "baby milk factory" was a gimmick that could only be used once and the bombed wedding party story was recycled too many times. (Added degree of difficulty, explaining what they were doing smack in the middle of war zone packing heavy artillery.)

[Excuse_My_Bellicosity]

There is no way in hell some skiffy islamic dirt farmers with $3.00 in the pockets collectively did something like this. They had high-dollar help from people who knew when and where to be. How could it not be staged?

[Excuse_My_Bellicosity]

Yes, there are a lot of reporters that need to be shot by the locals.

[Excuse_My_Bellicosity]

I always trust the media: Excellence in Media: The Today Show

[Anti-Bubba182]

News agencies stand by veracity of Lebanon bombing photos

There is some controversy as to the Qana Photos.

[Anti-Bubba182]

Hezbollywood? Evidence mounts that Qana collapse and deaths were staged

Lot's of good material above.

[Anti-Bubba182]

[corvus]

Convincing discussion, it is hard to believe the Qana tragedy was not staged, though that may be tough to prove. Whether an Israeli mistake or successful Hezbollah ruse de guere, Hezbollah capitalizes on its propoganda value. Watching events unfold across the Middle East, it is all too clear the pattern of conflict exploited by terrorists is theater. Skillful, cunning, lethal psychopathic theater.

[Anti-Bubba182]

The great problem is that Israel is not in Qana to do a forensic examination to settle the issue and the Lebanese, let alone Hezbollah, couldn't be trusted to do so.

[visualops]

Don't be fooled by the 7th century attitude. The terrorists are well schooled in propaganda and are just as familiar with modern technology as you are. Lebanon is a mess now but it wasn't always, and Beirut (where this poster was revealed) is a modern city.

[johnny7]

And 'creative-types'... not cut out for the front lines... can be very quick to respond in other venues of support.

[Piranha]

Thanks for your insight. After it is printed, how long before it can be hung up? Does it need to dry for any period of time before it is hung up?

[Republicus2001]

Islam murder ping!