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8/1 Middle East Live Thread
Middle East Live Thread ^ | 8/1/06 | BurbankKarl

Posted on 07/31/2006 9:38:15 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

The wife and father of kidnapped Israeli soldier Ehud Goldwasser, Karnit, holding a wedding photograph, and Shlomo Goldwasser arrive at Heathrow Airport in London, Monday July 31, 2006. Hezbollah kidnapped two Israeli soldiers on July 12, triggering an Israeli offensive against Lebanon that has killed hundreds of people, mostly civilians.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; daralislam; dhimmis; dhimmitude; hezbollah; humanshieldsrus; iran; islam; israel; lebanon; middleeast; muhammadsminions; muslimcaliphate
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To: COUNTrecount
What is clear is that Ahmadinejad does not see himself as an Iranian leader, but a Muslim prophet, using imagery to portray himself as a messiah for both Sunni and Shi'ite Muslims.

Which makes him all the more dangerous.

461 posted on 08/01/2006 9:23:42 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: CougarGA7

Today WWI. Tomorrow Hitler gains power and Saddam plays at being Hitler Jr. The day after the 9th of Av. On the fifth, Three people are killed and 55 wounded when two Arab gunmen open fire on a crowded passenger lounge at Athens airport in 1973, and the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty was signed in 1963. And the 6th, of course is the anniversary of Hiroshima.


462 posted on 08/01/2006 9:23:49 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

Thanks. That matches a lot of my understanding. But it's an osmosis understanding, not a studied one.


464 posted on 08/01/2006 9:24:07 AM PDT by Quix (BIBLE says it's coming; prophecies indicate our era; Shrillery is eager; Global tyrannical gov looms)
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To: CougarGA7

I just missed it. Olmert was speaking at a graduating class of soldiers or something.


465 posted on 08/01/2006 9:24:39 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Bahbah

Yes, he said Israel will enter no cease fire agreements until the threat has been eliminated.

CNN now covering Castro, Chicago power outages, and TS Chris.

Busy day.


466 posted on 08/01/2006 9:25:42 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Candor7
We will now see how good Condi is at keeping a straight face.

Speaking of Condi's face - she has one of the best "mean faces" ever (along with a great smile). I would have liked to have seen the "mean face" last week instead of all the "for public consumption" smiles.....as in "we mean what we're saying and we're saying what we mean". But maybe that's why I'm not a diplomat. :o)

467 posted on 08/01/2006 9:26:02 AM PDT by daybreakcoming
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To: 4butnomorethan30characters

I agree. However, here are a couple or 3 factors I think are key:

1. God is still in ultimate control. HIS TIMING reins regardless of satan's efforts to trigger things prematurely.

2. Satan is eager to trigger things prematurely and might be able to get away with things around the edges toward such.

3. The puppet masters serving satan toward setting up a global government must have fairly firm control over most all the major leaders on the world stage . . . even the Iranians to some large degree. How? I don't know. But I suspect that if said leaders fail to do their daily bidding, they puppet masters have the capacity to wipe their whole extended family off the earth. And I think the leaders know that.

This has long been a curiosity of mine--how much control do the puppet masters exercise over how many said leaders to whatever degree of detail and to whatever degree of daily activities and decisions. I don't know. But in such a situation as this war with Israel, it must be considerable--must be. They can't afford nor want things getting out of their control.

I suppose it's quite plausible also that they've wound the Jihadi's up and have sort of set them loose and the Jihadi's are lots of loose canons without too much daily operational control by the puppet masters--just all building toward the chaos the puppet masters need to scare the world into a world government. But I don't think that's a close enough sort of control for the puppet masters. I see them as control freaks to the max.

Your thoughts on all that?


469 posted on 08/01/2006 9:29:28 AM PDT by Quix (BIBLE says it's coming; prophecies indicate our era; Shrillery is eager; Global tyrannical gov looms)
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To: BurbankKarl

I sure like Olmerts resolve. That is the wildcard in all this that will increase the chances of this working out positively.


470 posted on 08/01/2006 9:31:15 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (There are no trophies for winning wars. Only consequences for losing them.)
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To: CougarGA7

Thanks. Fascinating. Sobering.


472 posted on 08/01/2006 9:31:30 AM PDT by Quix (BIBLE says it's coming; prophecies indicate our era; Shrillery is eager; Global tyrannical gov looms)
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To: Lizarde

It is above the second arrow on the bottom. (From the coast)

473 posted on 08/01/2006 9:31:37 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: 4butnomorethan30characters

Plenty of truth to that. I agree.

However, in 1965-1969 I saw plenty of convincing documents about the Soviet Union's putting millions of U.S. dollars into the USA into the civil rights movement etc. and plans to do so vis a vis women, homosexuals, hispanics etc. to set groups at each other's throats to help degrade and collapse our society.

When East Germany collapsed, and the KGB files were more accessable, proof of such expenditures for such purposes were found. At least $10 million USD were spent in the USA for such purposes--from at least back then forward in time.


474 posted on 08/01/2006 9:34:43 AM PDT by Quix (BIBLE says it's coming; prophecies indicate our era; Shrillery is eager; Global tyrannical gov looms)
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To: 4butnomorethan30characters

No sweat. Will be off and on all day.


477 posted on 08/01/2006 9:36:35 AM PDT by Quix (BIBLE says it's coming; prophecies indicate our era; Shrillery is eager; Global tyrannical gov looms)
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To: BurbankKarl

Great map. This multiple spelling thing is still throwing me. Do you have a legend for the circles and blast icons?


478 posted on 08/01/2006 9:37:16 AM PDT by CougarGA7 (There are no trophies for winning wars. Only consequences for losing them.)
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To: Quix; All

It's been mentioned around here over the past few weeks but nothing in depth. Is the "Threat Matrix" thread still going on?


479 posted on 08/01/2006 9:37:52 AM PDT by olde north church (Revenge is like Chinese food, filling for a time, awakening a deeper hunger later.)
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