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7/29 Middle East Live Thread
Middle East Live Thread ^ | 7/29/06 | BurbankKarl

Posted on 07/28/2006 11:26:26 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

Israeli soldiers rest at an artillery position in northern Israel, next to the Lebanese border, Friday July 28, 2006.

Updates

IDF soldier seriously injured in Bint Jbeil (09:14 , 07.29.06)

IDF hits over 60 Hizbullah targets (09:11 , 07.29.06)

Solana confident UN will push for international force in Southern Lebanon (08:28 , 07.29.06)

Annan plans meeting for potential contributors to international force for Lebanon (07:58 , 07.29.06)

Japan ground troops to mark official end to Iraq mission (07:23 , 07.29.06)

Bint Jbeil battle: 6 Soldiers lightly to moderately injured (05:28 , 07.29.06)

Moscow pushes Iran to respond to incentives deal (05:10 , 07.29.06)

Canada winding down Lebanon evacuation (05:08 , 07.29.06)

Al-Aqsa Martyrs Brigades group says killed Yakir settler (05:06 , 07.29.06)

Bush apologizes to Blair over failure to declare planes carried missiles for Israel (05:02 , 07.29.06)

IAF strikes 60 targets in Lebanon (04:58 , 07.29.06)

1 dead, 5 hurt in Seattle Jewish center shooting


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; breaking; gwot; hizballah; iaf; idf; israel; middleeast
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To: InterceptPoint

"I think human nature trumps culture"

Spoken like a true American


141 posted on 07/29/2006 7:08:14 AM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (level headed analyst here...armed to the teeth)
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To: All

17:03 IDF pulls out of Bint Jbail, Armored Corps still operating in surrounding area (Haaretz)


142 posted on 07/29/2006 7:09:20 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: All
http://www.irna.ir/en/news/view/line-24/0607291890113911.htm

Solana, Mottaki discuss ME developments Kuala Lumpur, July 29, IRNA

Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki and the European Union foreign policy chief Javier Solana Friday discussed latest developments in the Middle East region, those in Lebanon in Particular.

During the meeting, the Iranian minister briefed Solana on Iran's stance on its nuclear case.

Mottaki was in Malaysia on an official two-day visit at the invitation of his Malaysian counterpart Syed Hamid Albar.

While in Malaysia, the Iranian minister discussed with foreign ministers attending the ASEAN Regional Forum (ARF) the developments in Lebanon and Palestine and explored avenues to put an end to adventurism of the Zionist regime.

Brunei, Cambodia, Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, Myanmar, the Philippines, Singapore, Thailand and Vietnam are ASEAN member states.

Papua New Guinea has ASEAN observer status and East Timor is seeking it. Pakistan has ASEAN Regional Forum observer status.

Mottaki left Malaysia for Tehran on Friday night.

143 posted on 07/29/2006 7:15:16 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Fitzcarraldo
[source: Iran.]

"...We believe all these shortcomings stem from the domination of a hegemonic power over the Security Council, which dictates its will to others..."

http://www.irna.ir/en/news/view/line-24/0607290784112130.htm

UNSC unable to settle ME crises: Mottaki Kuala Lumpur

July 29, IRNA

Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki said here Friday the UN Security Council has so far failed to fulfilled its main duty in supporting the Palestinian and Lebanese people in the face of Zionist regime's brutal attacks.

The Security Council failed because a hegemonic power is dominating over it, he told reporters at a press conference.

"The UNSC was unable even to establish a ceasefire in the region.

We believe all these shortcomings stem from the domination of a hegemonic power over the Security Council, which dictates its will to others."

Mottaki was talking to reporters after five foreign ministers of the group of Eight Developing Islamic countries -- Malaysia, Bangladesh, Pakistan and Indonesia and Iran-- issued a statement on the ongoing developments in the Middle East in general, in Lebanon in particular.

Foreign ministers of Group Five, in their statement, expressed their deep concern over deterioration of situation and escalation of tension in the occupied Palestinian lands and Lebanon.

Mottaki said, "We expect the Security Council to recognize the Zionist regime as responsible for all the crimes and damage committed in Lebanon and Palestine and put in force an immediate ceasefire." He added Iran's stance is based on full cooperation with the international community to settle the crisis in Lebanon. However, he said, "A collective will is needed to materialize this goal." "Islamic states will do their utmost to resolve the case.

Iran, as a member of the Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC), will do its best to help settle the dispute in Lebanon with all its power." Asked about the outcome of his talks with foreign ministers attending the Association of South East Asian Nations (ASEAN) Regional Forum (ARF), he said in a meeting with his Chinese counterpart, Li haoxing, they discussed overall bilateral relations.

The sides also exchanged views on developments in the Middle East and Iran's nuclear case, he said.

In a meeting with his Pakistani counterpart, Khurshid Kasuri, the sides discussed the gas pipeline project and its technical aspects.

In a meeting with Japanese foreign minister, Taro Aso, they exchanged views on bilateral relations, international developments, Lebanon war and Iran's nuclear program.

The Iranian foreign minister arrived in Kuala Lumpur Thursday evening on a two-day visit at the invitation of his Malaysian counterpart Syed Hamid Albar.

He discussed with his counterparts attending the ASEAN Regional Forum the latest developments in Lebanon and Palestine and explored avenues to put an end to adventurism of the Zionist regime.

Brunei, Cambodia, Indonesia, Laos, Malaysia, Myanmar, the Philippines, Singapore, Thailand and Vietnam are ASEAN member states.

Papua New Guinea has ASEAN observer status and East Timor is seeking it. Pakistan has ASEAN Regional Forum observer status.

Mottaki left Kuala Lumpur for Tehran Friday night.

144 posted on 07/29/2006 7:20:56 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: All
[source: Iran]

"...Shayeq further pointed out that the more crimes and aggressions the Israeli regime commits, the more decisive regional nations will grow to eradicate this cancerous tumor, "and in fact, it could be said that the countdown has just started for an end to Zionism..."

http://english.farsnews.com/newstext.php?nn=8505070477

Countdown for Vanishing of Zionism Started

TEHRAN (Fars News Agency)- An Iranian Parliament member said that compromise between Muslims and Zionist regime is now an entirely dismissed case, adding that the countdown has now started for the end of Zionism.

Speaking to FNA, representative of Tabriz at the Islamic Consultative Assembly Eshrat Shayeq said that suppression of the enemies of the Zionist regime is the actual goal pursued by the United States in implementing the so-called New Middle-East Plan.

"Once this is done, the aggressor regime of Tel Aviv can achieve the opportunity required for the strengthening of its economy and thus becoming the superior economic power of the region and impose whatever it could not dictate to the regional nations through its military might," she reminded.

The member of the Parliament's Article 90 Commission said that the greatest achievement of the Lebanese Hezbollah has been putting an end to the image the Zionist regime has always attempted to portray of itself as an invincible power.

She further added, "Vulnerability of the Zionist regime in fighting wars of attrition and Israelis' concern over their death tolls have been proved, and these would certainly leave deep impacts on the future politics of the region."

Noting the supports rendered to the Lebanese resistance by the regional nations, the MP said that fighting Israel is now considered as Jihad ? i.e. one of the main principles and pillars of the Muslims' Islamic beliefs which means sacred defense against the enemies ? while compromise is viewed as the biggest treason.

Shayeq further pointed out that the more crimes and aggressions the Israeli regime commits, the more decisive regional nations will grow to eradicate this cancerous tumor, "and in fact, it could be said that the countdown has just started for an end to Zionism."

145 posted on 07/29/2006 7:29:44 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Fitzcarraldo

My armchair status has me baffled by Israel's strategy. I pray for their victory and safety.


146 posted on 07/29/2006 7:30:47 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-pray for Israel))
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To: SE Mom

Do as much damage as possible to Hezebola rocket capabilities in a few weeks, withdraw and cross their fingers is their strategy, IMO.


147 posted on 07/29/2006 7:33:55 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: defenderSD
"One last thing sage, what is the EC?"

I'm sorry. I didn't see this question until this morning. The EC is the Expedience Council. It is the mediating body in the Iranian parliament for disputes between the reformists and the hardliners (Guardian Council).

148 posted on 07/29/2006 7:36:05 AM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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To: Fitzcarraldo
17:03 IDF pulls out of Bint Jbail, Armored Corps still operating in surrounding area (Haaretz)

This could mean:

1. They've cleaned it out and are moving on.

2. They can't control it and Hezbollah is still in charge.

Do we know which?

149 posted on 07/29/2006 7:38:46 AM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: InterceptPoint

They found all the missile launchers they can find there and have move on; Bint Jbeil will remain in the control of Hezebola.


150 posted on 07/29/2006 7:40:28 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: ScaniaBoy

that guy on the shrikwrapped blog is spewing the same tripe i've heard for the past few days trying to defend the indefensible. Cut off command and control (which i agree has been happening), try to kill as many Hizbullah as possible and let the IAF worry about the rocket launchers.
this guy thinks (as do other Olmert sympathizers) that this is some brilliantly concocted strategy to draw all the Hizbullah out of their hideyholes in southern lebanon for a big fight at Bent Jbail where enough Hizbullah will be killed so the international force and lebanese army can later come in and retake southern lebanon. Me thinks not. Hizbullah is sitting in Trye and the countless other villages in southern lebanon south of the litani waiting for an IDF that may not come. Taking the city of Bent Jbail and totally controlling it will not solve the problem. I have seen no evidence to suggest Hizbullah is coming out of thier holes in other locations outside of Bent Jbail to fight.


151 posted on 07/29/2006 7:41:08 AM PDT by jhp
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To: InterceptPoint

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/743736.html

The article here says : "Armored Corps soldiers were still operating around the town, and were in control of certain areas..."


152 posted on 07/29/2006 7:41:53 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-pray for Israel))
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To: SE Mom
I'm not so sure that this information age of 'watching war as it happens' is good for us. The conflicting second by second information we have access to drives us all batty.

BTW....thank you for posting a link the other day to "Confronting Bad behavior...the Liberal way" article. That's a real keeper! (Here it is for those that missed it)

153 posted on 07/29/2006 7:45:07 AM PDT by tsmith130
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To: SE Mom
I'm coming to the conclusion that it's going to take a few million folks going up in a nuclear fire to jar the West into taking this threat seriously... Leftists have so infiltrated most Western Governments, INCLUDING our own, that we have become, weak, spineless, and feminised in the face nearly ANY opposition. Political Correctness has neutered our ability to take on evil when it confronts us...

While good men are still willing to stand against the dark, we are becoming fewer and fewer...
154 posted on 07/29/2006 7:45:25 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Terrorism-You Reap What You Appease........)
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To: SE Mom
Limited objective: take out missile launchers, missile storage facilities, resupply capability, command and control centers.
155 posted on 07/29/2006 7:45:53 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: tsmith130

- You're so right...I'm not sure it's good either-but I go full steam ahead anyway! I do know it's never the same on the ground as we think it is from our safe vantage point.

- It was an excellent piece, wasn't it?


156 posted on 07/29/2006 7:48:41 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-pray for Israel))
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To: Fitzcarraldo

17:37 90 Katyushas fired at northern Israel on Saturday (Channel 10) --- 20,000 more to fire?


157 posted on 07/29/2006 7:48:47 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
Someone please tell me what they see wrong with this news ticker. I see a bunch of reports regarding rocket fire after 2 weeks into the conflict, then I see the IDF declare its operations in Bent Jbail are over. So what does that mean - is the war over? Ynet Updates 8 rockets landed in the area of Kiryat Shmona; no injuries (16:24 , 07.29.06) Serious damage caused to medical institution in Akko from rocket barrages (16:22 , 07.29.06) 2 rocket barrages land in Maalot and Nahariya area; no injuries (16:19 , 07.29.06) IDF finishes operation in Bint Jbeil (16:18 , 07.29.06) Rocket barrages land in Akko area (16:12 , 07.29.06) Hizbollah US, Israel must be denied political gains (16:09 , 07.29.06) Air raid sirens sounded in Haifa, western Galilee (16:03 , 07.29.06) Abu Mazen arrives in Saudia for meeting with king (15:58 , 07.29.06) 3 rockets land in Safed area (15:50 , 07.29.06) Women suffering shock from rocket barrage in Tiberias area (15:47 , 07.29.06) Maalot: rocket causes fire; person lightly injured (15:37 , 07.29.06) 2 rockets land in Nahariya area; no injuries (15:34 , 07.29.06) Hizbullah denies death of 26 of its people killed in Bint Jbeil (15:32 , 07.29.06) 2 rockets land in Nahariya area; no injuries (15:27 , 07.29.06) Explosion heard in Maalot; no injuries reported (15:08 , 07.29.06) Air raid siren sounded in Rosh Pina and western Galilee; (15:06 , 07.29.06) Rocket hits industrial building in Tiberias area; no injuries (15:04 , 07.29.06) Rocket barrage hits Tiberias (14:41 , 07.29.06) Siren heard in Rosh Pina (14:39 , 07.29.06) Man lightly injured in Maalot rocket salvo (14:29 , 07.29.06) Sirens sounded in Carmiel, Western Galilee (14:07 , 07.29.06) 7 rockets land in Maalot; no injured (14:05 , 07.29.06) French foreign minister deplores Israel's rejection of 72-hour truce (13:56 , 07.29.06) Rice welcomes Hizbullah peace moves (13:43 , 07.29.06) Jumblatt: Hizbullah won the war (13:07 , 07.29.06) IDF probing suspicions soldier was wounded by friendly fire (12:33 , 07.29.06) Olmert meeting security officials in Jerusalem (12:30 , 07.29.06)
158 posted on 07/29/2006 7:49:53 AM PDT by jhp
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placemark


159 posted on 07/29/2006 7:50:30 AM PDT by Godzilla (Evil can be defeated when the good are unafraid.)
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To: tsmith130

Drives us all batty...especially as we start second guessing and analyzing and looking at things we as individuals have absolutely no control over....we cna have some impact on the decisions of our elected leaders maybe, and we can help those in need, and we can pray, but pretty much beyond that, all we can do is watch, hurrah, whine and gripe - and wish we knew or could influence what's going on in the minds of those who actually make the decisions.

Thus spectatorship doth make batty of us all...


160 posted on 07/29/2006 7:52:56 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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