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Court Blocks Feds on Congressman's Files (Democratic Rep. William Jefferson)
Breitbart ^ | 7-28-06 | Toni Locy

Posted on 07/28/2006 2:05:05 PM PDT by STARWISE

A federal appeals court on Friday barred the Justice Department from reviewing evidence seized from a Louisiana congressman's office during an unprecedented FBI raid on his Capitol Hill office in May.

A three-judge panel ordered a federal trial judge to ensure that Democratic Rep. William Jefferson be given copies of seized evidence contained on more than a dozen computer hard drives, several floppy disks and two boxes of paper documents.

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Louisiana
KEYWORDS: 109th; corruption; fbi; govwatch; jefferson; ruling; search; williamjefferson
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To: SolidSupplySide
As a conservative, who WANTS conservatives to be elected, ANY help we can get in that department is FINE with me. Such is the nature of politics!

By the way have you ever NOTICED, that the guilty Pubs confess immediately, are tried, convicted and jailed in no time at all, but Dims either SKATE [think Cynthia or Sandyman] or delay trials FOREVER like Jefferson.

Tom Delay IMHO is innocent and I believe he will win, if it does indeed go to trial.

Jefferson OTOH is ON TAPE accepting a bribe.

81 posted on 07/31/2006 4:07:04 PM PDT by PISANO (Our Military will NOT tire, will NOT falter and will NOT fail...but our NATION can!!)
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To: mjaneangels@aolcom
Put at risk does not equate to could not win.

Put at risk

+

Resign ! !

+

Attempt to be declared ineligble

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It all adds up. DeLay is toast.

82 posted on 07/31/2006 4:19:11 PM PDT by SolidSupplySide
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To: PISANO
As a conservative, who WANTS conservatives to be elected, ANY help we can get in that department is FINE with me.

As an American who wants men of character in positions of authority, I'd rather have Jefferson out now.

83 posted on 07/31/2006 4:20:17 PM PDT by SolidSupplySide
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To: SolidSupplySide

"It is not a good thing for corrupt Congressmen (whether Democrat or not) to remain in the House."

What about a perjuring chief exec? One who could have been eligible for charges of selling state secrets?


84 posted on 07/31/2006 7:25:02 PM PDT by Rembrandt (We would have won Viet Nam w/o Dim interference.)
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To: SolidSupplySide; Lancey Howard

<< What do you think of Duke Cunningham or Bob Ney? >>

We conservatives do not think of them at all.

Unlike the "Democrats," we do not circle our wagons around recidivist rapists, co-rapists, crooks and the corrupt.

They are beneath even our contempt.


85 posted on 08/02/2006 3:05:47 AM PDT by Brian Allen ("In war there is no substitute for victory." General Douglas MacArthur -- GINGRICH/TANCREDO2008)
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To: SolidSupplySide

I would like to see Delay win if he has to run, rather than any Democrat. If he does withdraw people would still be correct in saying he never lost an election. I am sure that your opinion is very important to yourself but my speculation on this matter is as good as yours is. BTW how do you know what I would say if he withdraws?


86 posted on 08/06/2006 12:32:09 PM PDT by jospehm20
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To: Brian Allen
Unlike the "Democrats," we do not circle our wagons around recidivist rapists, co-rapists, crooks and the corrupt.

They are beneath even our contempt.

Your statement is inaccurate. Witness the Republicans circling the wagons around DeLay.

87 posted on 08/07/2006 7:29:03 AM PDT by SolidSupplySide
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To: jospehm20
BTW how do you know what I would say if he withdraws?

You stated that DeLay has never lost an election. My position is that statement is devoid of meaning. Particularly if DeLay withdraws (which is very likely). If DeLay withdraws, he still would have never lost an election, but Nick Lampson would be the Congressman from TX22.

I would have preferred that DeLay lost the Republican primary and that the Republican primary winner became the next Congressman from TX22. It was not worth DeLay winning the primary only in order to make the claim that DeLay never lost an election.

88 posted on 08/07/2006 7:32:49 AM PDT by SolidSupplySide
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To: Revel

This ruling does not help Jefferson that much. Giving him copies of what was seized would appear to be prudent and commonplace. It is surprising that there would have to be a Court order to do it since it would appear to me to be part of discovery for the defense.


89 posted on 08/07/2006 7:36:47 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: SolidSupplySide
The election got rid of Tom DeLay!

If you call winning the primary "getting rid of" the winner, then yes, the election "got rid of" DeLay.
90 posted on 08/07/2006 7:38:12 AM PDT by Xenalyte (who is having the best day ever!)
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To: Xenalyte
If you call winning the primary "getting rid of" the winner, then yes, the election "got rid of" DeLay.

No. I'm talking about DeLay's fear of losing to Lampson in the general election as "getting rid" of DeLay. It is obvious that DeLay has made it clear to the RPT that he will not mount a vigorous campaign. That's why the RPT is filing the no-chance appeal to the SCOTUS.

91 posted on 08/07/2006 8:07:21 AM PDT by SolidSupplySide
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To: SolidSupplySide

<< Your statement is "inaccurate." Witness the Republicans circling the wagons around (former congressman) DeLay. >>

If your statement had any truth to it it would but demonstrate the exception to prove the rule.

But it has no truth, Mr DeLay has been found guilty of nothing and has in any case been removed from the Congress.

Pretty impressive circling of the wagons, eh??


92 posted on 08/08/2006 4:43:31 PM PDT by Brian Allen ("In war there is no substitute for victory." General Douglas MacArthur -- GINGRICH/TANCREDO2008)
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To: SolidSupplySide
I see. I agree. I would much like to see the seat remain Republican no matter who wins it. I certainly do not want to see Lampson win.
93 posted on 08/09/2006 9:14:19 AM PDT by jospehm20
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To: SolidSupplySide
What is your obsession with Tom DeLay? I think you have a problem....even starting to sound like you are another, "I used to be a Conservative, Supply-Sider, barf, barf, barf..know what I mean?
If I was as obsessed with crooks in politics, I don't think I would concentrate on DeLay, I would look where it proliferates, the Left side of the poli-spectrum, that is a target rich environment for petty political thieves!!
94 posted on 08/17/2006 11:52:01 AM PDT by iopscusa (El Vaquero. (SC Lowcountry Cowboy))
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To: NonValueAdded

Other way around. The judge knows he's going to need heat in the winter and AC in the summer or he'll have to work at home.


95 posted on 10/04/2006 3:17:50 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: ritewingwarrior
You guys make me laugh ~ a "representative from the government" would be, of course, a member of Congress and a judge.

How dare you assert Executive supremacy in this matter. The English killed King Charles of England over this sort of thing.

Subsequently the Executive has been subordinate to the Parliament or Congress.

96 posted on 10/04/2006 3:19:48 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: mrsmith
And, if it were you or I "in Congress" and "in a Congressional office" the Executive would not dare send the jackboots down to ransack our stuff ~ period ~ if this were still a representative Republic.

The story at the top of the thread says this whole business was "precedental".

I think when it's all over and the Supreme Court has spoken, there are some Fibbies who are going to find their butts in the slammer!

Doesn't let Jefferson off the hook, but get real ~ these guys violated a standard even George Washington wouldn't have dreamed of violating.

I tell you, the psychological profile for FBI agents has gotten screwed up in recent times. It focuses entirely too much on fascist inclination, and FAVORS THEM.

97 posted on 10/04/2006 3:24:24 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: jcparks

Your glee at the discomfort of a blackman is incredibly apparant. We didn't see you out there acting this way about Represenative Cunningham or a couple of others getting indicted/convicted for gross corruption this last year.


98 posted on 10/04/2006 3:29:32 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: MNJohnnie
It wasn't legally obtained. Never in the history of the Republic had a judge been asked to issue a warrant for a search of a Congressionally controlled office without the approval or request of the Speaker of the House and/or the Senate Majority leader.

NEVER!!!!

That's because such a thing is UNCONSTITUTIONAL.

99 posted on 10/04/2006 3:33:22 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: MNJohnnie
Jerk ~ you are misrepresenting the argument. The same law applies to Congressmen that applies to you and I, but those laws DO NOT APPLY to the precincts of Congress, nor to legislative papers.

It's that simple.

Now, quit misrepresenting the argument or just drop out of these threads.

100 posted on 10/04/2006 3:36:27 PM PDT by muawiyah
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