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1 posted on 07/28/2006 6:16:37 AM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Amil

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2 posted on 07/28/2006 6:17:06 AM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Dark Skies

Good Reading.


3 posted on 07/28/2006 6:28:49 AM PDT by IrishMike (Democrats .... Stuck on Stupid, RINO's ...the most vicious judas goats)
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To: Dark Skies

Thanks for the education...


4 posted on 07/28/2006 6:34:08 AM PDT by aquila48
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To: Dark Skies
"You know Muslims personally in your neighborhood or your work place and they are nice people? The nice Muslims you personally know are presently small minorities in alien lands. They have to be nice, and they may indeed be nice. Yet, when the main force of Islamofascism surges forward, these nice folks will either have to join it or be swept aside like the rest of the resisters."

This is the point that no one in our government has the guts to declare.

We are, in fact, at war with islam. Until we are bold and brave enough to admit it, we are doomed!

5 posted on 07/28/2006 6:44:06 AM PDT by guitar4jesus (Black, Conservative . . . and I vote!)
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To: Dark Skies

The very definition of fascism. If you don't fit in or aren't a member of the government created society, you are dead.


6 posted on 07/28/2006 6:46:33 AM PDT by kinghorse
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To: Dark Skies
Too much good stuff here, in one article to ignore.
This is an excellent summary of where we stand.

That I have "seen" this for decades is irrelevant. I just hope that more and more "others" continue to realize the obvious:

Islam is at war with us. We can accept it and react, or keep dreaming and deal with the consequences later.

7 posted on 07/28/2006 6:57:01 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Multiculturalism is the white flag of a dying country)
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bttt


8 posted on 07/28/2006 7:00:21 AM PDT by ELS (Vivat Benedictus XVI!)
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To: Amil; Dark Skies

Good writing. I agree with your assessment of the mullahs running the IRI and the danger they present to the world.

A couple of remarks -

"Up to this point millennialism was a belief and a hope. No one ever aspired to or had the means of making the anticipated events come about."

Many people have "aspired" to bring about Armageddon or the "second coming". It's the "means" that they've lacked.

I'm glad you make the distinction between islamists and other muslims, but you forget to mention that not only are non-muslims and "people of the Book" attacked by the islamists, but other muslim sects as well. In fact, it is other muslims who have paid the biggest price, not the non-muslims.
It will be interesting to see how many people replying to your post fail to make the distinction.


10 posted on 07/28/2006 7:01:53 AM PDT by Brooklyn Kid (What's it to ya? ) ((....west of the Jordan, east of the Rock of Gibraltar.................))
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To: Dark Skies

If Ahmadinejad's drive for nuclear capabilities is based on achieving the means for acceleraing the return of the 12th Iman, coming negotiations for limiting Iran's activities should be trying at the best.


11 posted on 07/28/2006 7:07:23 AM PDT by monocle
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To: Dark Skies
C-Span's Sunday morning 'Washington Journal' show took a call from Iran a few weeks back. The caller kept interspersing his broken-English comments with the same phrase, "Please, come save us!". You could tell he meant it.

JMHO: The problem with a move on Iran is that, much like Iraq, you have a minority that can make things very messy if they want to, ie. the ~25% Sunni/Baathists and the ~75% Shiite/Kurds in Iraq versus the ~25% hardcore Mullah-followers versus the 75% of the Iranian population that would like a more modern system. Part of the hate of the ~25% hardcore Mullah-followers is for the West's collaboration with the Shah who kept these Millennial nutjobs in line during his rule. Like Pinochet, he was a 'strongman' that brought a level of calm to his country and like Pinochet he was betrayed. Too bad Carter allowed this horrific regime, thats killed more people that the Shah ever did, to take form.

I'm sure there are think-tanks and military planners going over every possible scenario both in the near- and long-term [like in Chess, 10 moves deep] of this mess.

12 posted on 07/28/2006 7:07:35 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (A wall first. A wall now.)
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14 posted on 07/28/2006 7:18:14 AM PDT by SJackson (The Pilgrims—Doing the jobs Native Americans wouldn’t do!)
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To: Dark Skies
Superb piece.

We in the west need to pay close attention to this.

I have come to understand this mindset after some time in SWA.

Very binary. Survive or perish.

I choose to survive.

I wonder when the libs and other "Maybe they'll just go away folks" will wake up and get it?
19 posted on 07/28/2006 7:36:45 AM PDT by roaddog727 (Bullsh## doesn't get bridges built.)
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To: Dark Skies
What always strikes me about such pronouncements is the gap between militant Islam's ambitions and it's abilities; Islamic movements my indeed be able to repress their own populations for a generation or two, and it's conceivable (though IMO unlikely) that they will achieve political ascendancy, or at last a large degree of political and cultural autonomy, in a few European countries that were unwise enough to admit large numbers of Islamic immigrants.

But that's about the end of it: Islamic "Science", "Economics" and "Government" don't represent realistic competitors to the "Western" counterparts, and the rise of radical Islam is largely a reaction to the fact that (as in Iran at the moment) the appeal of Western Consumer culture to the young is an acid that constantly eats away at attempts to reimpose the values of 8th century tribal culture on populations with satellite dishes importing subversive images of "Western" life 24x7.

So it appears to me that Islamic Theocracy is just the latest in a string of attempts such as "Arab Socialism" to come to terms with "modernity".

And that for the next twenty years or so - until oil revenues start to level out and them decline, and such places as Iran and Saudi Arabia have to start looking to building economies and cultures based on something other than primary resource extraction - the entire area is going to be divided between poor countries struggling to reconcile 8t century Islam with 21st century requirements, and petroleum rich countries which may have a brief respite from having to do the same.

22 posted on 07/28/2006 7:40:48 AM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas (More of the same, only with more zeros at the end.)
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Ping!


26 posted on 07/28/2006 8:24:24 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (The Arab League jihad continues on like a fart in an elevator - FR American in Israel)
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To: Dark Skies

Remember when the liberals were terrified that Ronald Reagan perhaps looked forward to Armageddon and may have wanted to do something to hasten it along?

Well, we all know now that was nonsense. We even knew it then, but that didn't stop a lot of crazy speculation.

Where are their voices now that it appears some madmen in Iran really do want to bring about the end of the world?


27 posted on 07/28/2006 8:29:16 AM PDT by Deo volente
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To: Dark Skies
Well written and spot on.

The cabal of fanatical mullahs ruling Iran has lost its patience, not only with the unbelievers, but also with the Mahdi as well. They aim to force his arrival. This is the truth regarding Islam ... and it proves this is a religion fathered by a demon. To believe they (the Mullahs) can force the hand of the one who created the universe is to reduce God to a servant of the more powerful Mullahs. A demon would relish such irrational thinking, but God, the true God of Creation, is not so impotent nor does He desire such foolishness from believers. Sadly, Mulims are so brainwashed through rote worship, they will be unable to see this truth and reject this evil which is overpowering them through fostering their belief that they can make God serve their rewards based upon their 'righteous' behaviors in rote worship. Truly, we battle principalities and powers not of this world!

29 posted on 07/28/2006 8:43:26 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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This is why Iran cannot be allowed to have nukes. But regime change is vital, because as I heard Newt Gingrich say the other day, "Iran is a 12-hour plane ride away [from North Korea] from having nuclear missiles."

the Zoroastrians are convinced that Saoshayant is the one who shall come, defeat the trouble-making Ahriman—Satan—and make the creatures again pure.

I did not know that. 8-)

30 posted on 07/28/2006 8:48:09 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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33 posted on 07/28/2006 8:55:50 AM PDT by tutstar (Baptist ping list-freepmail to get on or off)
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To: Dark Skies

I still hold the faintest glimmers of hope that we can avoid an all out war against islam. I shudder to think what it would take for a nation first settled to ensure religious freedom to make war on a religion. I further shudder to think what it would do to such a nation.

I declare, Islamofascism must be destroyed!


35 posted on 07/28/2006 9:30:34 AM PDT by Check_Your_Premises (Ceterum censeo <Islamofascism> esse delendam -Huerro the Elder)
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the thinking of Iran’s ruling mullahs and their hand-picked president Mahmood Ahmadinejad.
Like Highlander -- There Can Be Only One. This "president" of Iran knows his head will roll when he fails (and he will fail). If he wants to continue in the job (IOW, continue to fail, continue to lead Iran to destruction) he'll have to eliminate or be eliminated.
36 posted on 07/28/2006 9:38:12 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (updated my FR profile on Thursday, July 27, 2006. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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