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To: marc costanzo
As others have pointed out... There are no muslims in the future... 
21 posted on 07/27/2006 7:06:59 PM PDT by zeugma (I reject your reality and substitute my own in its place.)
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To: zeugma
As others have pointed out... There are no muslims in the future...

Actually, I know of one. In Niven and Pournelle's "The Mote In God's Eye" there is a Muslim character. However, even in the future he is duplicitous and conniving.

30 posted on 07/27/2006 7:11:23 PM PDT by CaptRon (Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
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To: zeugma

The Fremen of Dune were Muslim. One complaint they had of the Harkonnen family was that they did not allow them offplanet even for Hadj.

A sandy desert planet with something the rest of the galaxy could not live without, under their sands...


41 posted on 07/27/2006 7:15:01 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: zeugma
Ah, yes, but all the Christians are Pentecostals, and sometimes "Zen" Pentecostals.

So don't be so anxious to gloat over the Moslems.

95 posted on 07/27/2006 7:44:13 PM PDT by muawiyah (-/sarcasm)
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To: zeugma
As others have pointed out... There are no muslims in the future...

The entire mythos of the desert culture in Herberts Dune series was based on Islamic Arab culture. Atreides was the Mahdi, or Muaddib, which according to Shia Islam is the title of the person who will unite Islam to conquer the world. Jihad is directly named in the books as the Fremen fight against the Harkkonen. The fedaykin strike forces are a variation of the spelling of the Feda'yin, which anyone who reads the newspaper should be familiar with. Lots and lots of words and names in the book come straight out of Arabic. On top of that, the whole concept of the spice...the energy the universe needs to transport itself being trapped beneath the sands of the desert people...was directly pulled from the middle east.

The references were dropped or buried in the movies for obvious reasons, but Dune stands as an example of a SciFi series where Muslims not only exist, but end up dominating.
96 posted on 07/27/2006 7:44:53 PM PDT by Arthalion
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To: zeugma
As others have pointed out... There are no muslims in the future...

Oh, I almost forgot. There are Muslims in the Enders Game series too. Not many though...most were vaporized. In what may yet turn out to be a prophetic bit of fiction, the middle eastern states launched WWIII against the west and were nuked into near oblivion. They still exist, and as the story reveals are still quite slimy, but they are far, far fewer in number.
100 posted on 07/27/2006 7:49:16 PM PDT by Arthalion
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To: zeugma
As others have pointed out... There are no muslims in the future...

I beg to differ. In the future muslims are called "Reavers".


127 posted on 07/27/2006 8:04:20 PM PDT by GreenOgre (mohammed is the false prophet of a false god.)
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To: zeugma
As others have pointed out... There are no muslims in the future... Cast your uncritical eye on Frank Herbert's Dune series.
228 posted on 07/27/2006 11:13:52 PM PDT by brityank (The more I learn about the Constitution, the more I realise this Government is UNconstitutional.)
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To: zeugma; Arthalion; CaptRon; DBrow
Islam in Sci-fi Literature.............
http://www.cs.rit.edu/~maa2454/SCIFI/sci_lit.php
http://www.cs.rit.edu/~maa2454/SCIFI/movies_scifi.php
http://www.cs.rit.edu/~maa2454/SCIFI/muslim_scifi.php
http://www.cs.rit.edu/~maa2454/SCIFI/alt_history.php
251 posted on 07/28/2006 6:21:27 AM PDT by DoctorMichael (A wall first. A wall now.)
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To: zeugma
There are no muslims in the future

Frank Herbert's Dune is an allegory of Islam

372 posted on 07/29/2006 5:52:06 AM PDT by reg45
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To: zeugma

Dune sorta kinda has Muslims.


405 posted on 08/01/2006 8:27:32 PM PDT by Tribune7
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