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Verdict Reached in Andrea Yates Case (UPDATE: Not Guilty by reason of insanity)
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Posted on 07/26/2006 9:35:01 AM PDT by cajunman

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To: ozarkgirl
"you really should read up on the facts in this case", "Who wants to set her free? "

First, the "facts in this case" are what were introduced into evidence by the Lawyers? Is that what you think the "facts" are? Her past problems of mental midgetry, and blaming her husband, and post-partum depression, etc., etc., which is the way everyone today tries to analyze and explain away deviant behavior (i.e., bad marriage, bad childhood, bad environment, bad parents, etc., etc.) is why anyone with more than two brain cells can understand that Andrea Yates is the PERPETRATOR, and not a VICTIM.

She will be set free as soon as some "expert psychiatrist" blesses her as being "no danger to society", and she will search one of those Liberal-types out....they're as easy to find as the "expert witnesses" who come up with their laundry list of excuses as to why she should be found "insane".

No doubt she is sick, as was Manson, Gacey, and every other murderer who came down the 'pike.

But, being societal misfits and irresponsible doesn't entitle one to violate the LAW, which is exactly what Yates did: she murdered 3 people, and now every sympathetic politically-correct victimhood supporter is out there trying to rationalize it away....

Sorry, the fact (which you omit) is that she murdered her children, she did it in a planned way, and she now is exonerated by reason of "she's not right upstairs".

Get a grip.

521 posted on 07/26/2006 5:40:21 PM PDT by traditional1
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To: pj_627
SHE suffered depression MUCH more debilitating and extreme than mine. My experiece lets me understand HOW this formerly loving and attentive mother COULD have so lost touch with reality that these HORRIBLE crimes could have been committed by her.

Did you think about murdering your child?!? If you did, then you had/have a much bigger problem than depression!

You either have the capacity in you to murder someone or you don't. It's that simple.

I have suffered from severe clinical depression, too. Yes, I had could not function normally and I acted irrationally and my life fell apart before my eyes, but I never intentionally tried to harm anyone because I did not have that capability in me to begin with.

If she had accidently killed a child, for example, by putting them in the bathtub and leaving them, then this would be a whole nother discussion, but she planned out their deaths. She held a child down under the water until they died right in front of her eyes and then she reached for another child and did the same thing again.

522 posted on 07/26/2006 5:50:50 PM PDT by Elyse
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To: traditional1

Wow. Not that I can make you hate any more than you already do, but she murdered her 5 children, not 3 children as you stated. Perhaps you are confusing her with someone else? Yes, anyone who murders others and especially anyone who murders children is indeed insane. However, the only hope for these children were the sane people in their life who could have saved them. Their mother was crazy and should not have been responsible for their lives.


523 posted on 07/26/2006 5:51:01 PM PDT by ozarkgirl
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To: NorthWoody

Please cease harassing me with your insults, I've had quite enough. I am no longer interested in anything you have to say.


524 posted on 07/26/2006 5:52:45 PM PDT by Kitten Festival
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To: traditional1

Don't worry, that won't happen.


525 posted on 07/26/2006 5:54:28 PM PDT by Kitten Festival
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To: Kitten Festival

Don't worry, that won't happen.



What bag are you pulling that out of?..... How can you be so sure she won't be walking the community streets at some future date? Are you saying she can never recover from her mental illness and will die with it?


526 posted on 07/26/2006 6:01:29 PM PDT by deport
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To: deport

No hospital official wants to take flack from the public for letting Andrea out. Not only that, in her case, she really IS sick, and none of those doctors knows the cure. She won't see free air any time soon - I don't think ever. It's too politically sensitive to the officials doing the freeing. They don't like criticism and scrutiny. I doubt she will even be freed if she DOES get well, which is unlikely anyway.


527 posted on 07/26/2006 6:03:21 PM PDT by Kitten Festival
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To: Kitten Festival
No hospital official wants to take flack from the public for letting Andrea out. Not only that, in her case, she really IS sick, and none of those doctors knows the cure. She won't see free air any time soon - I don't think ever. It's too politically sensitive to the officials doing the freeing. They don't like criticism and scrutiny. I doubt she will even be freed if she DOES get well, which is unlikely anyway.

I want to come live in your universe.

528 posted on 07/26/2006 6:08:25 PM PDT by Elyse
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To: spectre

...unfortunately you have not studied psychological disorders not have any experience in that realm.... if you did, you'd find that severe....and I mean severe psychosis is a terrible terrible thing.....you can know something may be wrong...but so compelled to commit that act that it is impossible for you to do otherwise....read some of the posts from some experts here.....


529 posted on 07/26/2006 6:11:49 PM PDT by NorCalRepub
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To: Mean Maryjean

Definitely! babies are seen by many as an inconvenience. It goes against human nature to want to harm your child. Those are the times we are living in.


530 posted on 07/26/2006 6:12:36 PM PDT by tutstar (Baptist ping list-freepmail to get on or off)
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To: Kitten Festival

So your statement that she'll never get out is fluff and nothing based upon the Texas Code of Criminal Procedure which is the controlling authority?....


531 posted on 07/26/2006 6:13:07 PM PDT by deport
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To: stands2reason

Quite possible.

It is also quite possible that she is insane, based on biological factors.

I simply don't know.


532 posted on 07/26/2006 6:19:51 PM PDT by Skooz (Chastity prays for me, piety sings...Modesty hides my thighs in her wings...)
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To: The Spirit Of Allegiance
.really.....so that means we are culpable of killing in a war and should all rot in hell....since there is no "penumbra"
533 posted on 07/26/2006 6:21:14 PM PDT by NorCalRepub
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To: traditional1
.........you have no idea about severe....I mean severe mental illness....especially severe post partum psychosis, not depression, psychosis.....most don't rise to this level, but when they do....it is a terrible almost incomprehensible hell where one might be compelled to carry out unspeakable acts....you may disagree...but you are speaking from a rational mind....something Ms. Yates was unable to do.......and yes...I do have a graduate degree in Psychology so I know a little bit about it.....
534 posted on 07/26/2006 6:23:44 PM PDT by NorCalRepub
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To: ozarkgirl
"she murdered her 5 children, not 3 children as you stated"Well....there ya go.

I said the "facts as presented in the case by the lawyers", and you failed to recognize the FACT that she was on trial for only THREE of the childrens' deaths. Yes, there were 5 dead, but the "facts" you so preciously are concerned with are that she was found "not guilty by reason of insanity" of THREE murders.

Now, as far as her being releases as "cured" in a matter a few years, no question........

535 posted on 07/26/2006 6:24:36 PM PDT by traditional1
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To: Elyse
I think the Andrea Yates reinforces every negative stereotype which people have of crazy people.

She has made life easier for female child murderers ,and she has made life tougher for nonviolent, non criminal crazy people.
536 posted on 07/26/2006 6:26:29 PM PDT by after dark ('Tis now the very witching time of night;)
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To: deport; Kitten Festival

.....yes....she most likely will not recover from this type of psychosis...and yes...I have a graduate degree in Psychology....she most likely will die with it....and never get out....in these types of cases the brains chemistry and neurological functioning has been severely rewired and will need drug intervention to retard the chemical and electrical imbalance that torments this woman


537 posted on 07/26/2006 6:27:45 PM PDT by NorCalRepub
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To: NorCalRepub; bitt; wagglebee; weegee; Alamo-Girl; The Mayor
you can know something may be wrong...but so compelled to commit that act that it is impossible for you to do otherwise

I understand your reference to (obsession) compulsion--however, either some professional opinions and your own statement above are based on a false premise or the Bible is false. The temptation to do evil is not sin; to give in to the temptation is the sin.
No temptation has overtaken you but such as is common to man; and God is faithful, who will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will provide the way of escape also, so that you will be able to endure it. 1 Corinthians 10:13 (New American Standard Bible)
538 posted on 07/26/2006 6:33:37 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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To: ozarkgirl
Finally someone who understands! I read a long article on this woman, she scratched her head non stop in one spot until it was bald, is this normal? She would go days without saying one word, days without uttering one single word, is this normal?

ACTING!!!

539 posted on 07/26/2006 6:35:27 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: NorCalRepub

There is a very clear distinction; the Commandment referred to murder. Conversely, there was an unequivocal requirement that murderers were to be executed as a necessary function of the government.


540 posted on 07/26/2006 6:36:19 PM PDT by The Spirit Of Allegiance (Public Employees: Honor Your Oaths! Defend the Constitution from Enemies--Foreign and Domestic!)
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