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Wad of Cells Does Not Equate to Human Life; Abortion Isn't Murder [sophomoric barf alert]
The State News ^ | 7/26/2006 | Shane Krouse

Posted on 07/26/2006 5:33:50 AM PDT by Numbers Guy

Conception — the point at which life begins. At least it is according to the fundamentalist community, anyway. The stance of Right to Life supporters is that abortion is outright murder and deprivation of life. I disagree. How can you kill something that is not yet living? Besides, banning abortion deprives the mother of her rights to property and to the pursuit of happiness. A fetus is not a living human, and the mother has the right to decide to abort it.

During the first trimester of the pregnancy, the fetus is merely a wad of cells. A mere wad of cells doesn't equate to a fully functioning, living human being. A wad of cells cannot make its own cognitive decisions. A wad of cells doesn't have the capability to inhale or exhale with its lungs. A wad of cells cannot survive independently, as it relies completely on its mother for all its nutriment.

So why would anyone provide a wad of cells with the outrageous status of a living human being?

The point I am trying to make here is that a fetus is not a living human, and therefore, an abortion is not responsible for annihilating a human's life. Besides, in legal terms, the Supreme Court's landmark decision in Roe v. Wade concluded that human life does not begin until life can be sustained outside of the womb. Medically speaking, premature fetuses can very rarely be kept alive if they are born before the pregnancy's sixth month, or the end of the second trimester.

The mother deserves every right to make a decision to abort her fetus. The supreme law of our land, the U.S. Constitution, guarantees Americans have the right to their property. Are pets not considered the property of a human? Humans provide pets with food, water and a habitat, just as a mother provides a fetus a habitat inside of the womb, along with food and oxygen.

And because mom houses the fetus — that not only required her X sex chromosome, but also gained half its chromosome pairs from her ovum — the fetus should be considered property of its mother. Not to mention, the wad of cells inside her doesn't have the ability to choose for itself.

Banning abortion would be a greater deprivation of basic human rights than continuing to uphold it. So why not allow the mother her innate right to decide whether or not this wad of cells will grow into a human?

If anything, a fetus is merely a parasitical creature that uses the mother as its host.

Tapeworms are parasites that house themselves in the intestinal tracts of humans, feeding off the food the host consumes. Comparatively, a fetus is little more than a tapeworm. It is quite common for humans to annihilate parasites with medications or toxins, so why not allow for fetuses to suffer the same fate?

Now let's compare the Right to Life stance of abortion to the tragic fate of many fertilized eggs.

Fundamentalists fiercely oppose abortion because they believe it is murder. They often recognize those who are "slaughtered" by holding vigils and other ceremonies.

Do any of these individuals realize that according to the National Institutes of Health, 25 percent of conceived embryos perish within the first six weeks due to complications such as failure to implant to the uterus wall? That's right — a quarter of all "humans" conceived end up "dying."

It would appear that the "loving" God of these fundamentalists is many more times guilty of murder than all the human race's abortionists combined.

If life begins at conception, why is it that Catholics and other fundamentalist groups don't have funerals for all these dead "babies"? Why not hold candlelit vigils for all who fail to implant themselves? Or wait, better yet, why don't we supply a birth certificate to all those embryos who died shortly after conception? Why not make them legal citizens too?

Do these last few statements seem absolutely asinine? Then some of you are in dire need of rethinking your anti-abortion stance.

Life begins when the baby is passed through the birth canal and exits the womb. At this point, the baby is no longer physically connected to the mother and no longer freeloading its nutrients and oxygen from mommy.

Shane Krouse is an MSU sophomore and State News columnist. Reach him at krousesh@msu.edu.


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To: dubie

You should email these pics to him.


41 posted on 07/26/2006 6:46:45 AM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: Madeleine Ward

I once believed the lies too. Once I had my own child I viewed everything in a different light.

Our youth are indoctrinated by public education.


42 posted on 07/26/2006 6:48:13 AM PDT by ThisLittleLightofMine
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To: ThisLittleLightofMine
Our youth are indoctrinated by public education.

Ding ding ding!

Look into The Frankfurt School and embryonic NEA for the plan.

43 posted on 07/26/2006 6:57:25 AM PDT by polymuser
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To: Numbers Guy

unborn babies = pets = property = parasites??

* shudder *


44 posted on 07/26/2006 6:59:38 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: Numbers Guy

Well, when you get right down to it, everybody is just a wad of cells. If this is supposed to be a pro-abortion argument, it is ill-conceived.


45 posted on 07/26/2006 7:00:42 AM PDT by Kirkwood
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To: Numbers Guy

"That's right — a quarter of all 'humans' conceived end up 'dying.'"

LOL.

Actually, the percentage of human beings who are conceived and who will subsequently die is a lot closer to 100% than to 25%.


46 posted on 07/26/2006 7:01:10 AM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: OpusatFR
Perhaps we should use the name Shane as a synonym?

Used in a sentence:

I wrote this stupid editorial because I got my girlfriend "Shane'd up", and had to talk her into an abortion, Otherwise, I wouldn't be able to study abroad in Paris next summer.
47 posted on 07/26/2006 7:02:41 AM PDT by horse_doc
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To: MonroeDNA
Where is the sympathy? One fourth of embryos are dying

Ask any mother who's been through a miscarriage whether or not they mourn that loss.

48 posted on 07/26/2006 7:03:26 AM PDT by Numbers Guy
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To: Skooz

The real choice for reproductive rights is made at the zipper.


49 posted on 07/26/2006 7:04:05 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Scatology is Serendipitous)
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To: Numbers Guy

"A fetus is not a living human, and the mother has the right to decide to abort it"

You (Shane Krouse) sound like you're sorry your mother let you live.


50 posted on 07/26/2006 7:06:25 AM PDT by RoadTest (Then conquer we must, when our cause it is just, and this be our motto: in God is our trust.)
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To: Numbers Guy

Both egg and sperm contain DNA, but neither one is capable by itself of defining an individual. But the DNA of the fertilized egg would exactly match a DNA sample taken from the body of that individual at any point in life. To the best of human understanding, no other point in the process of life constitutes such a marvelous transition - or marks such a perilous time in life.

Only a fortunate few survive to the next milestone of the process, implantation in the uterine wall. Does that make those that do not less human? We speak of this frequent but generally unperceived loss as nature correcting itself, ridding itself of defects, or other rationalizations, but we don't really know if this is true - if there is some difference between those that implant and those that do not.

If these unformed bodies are also lost souls, I feel sure that G_d, in his infinite wisdom, has made provision for them. And if the thought of a soul offends you, think of it instead as simple human identity, entitled to the same respect that you expect for yourself, at the instant it becomes recognizably human. And by the way, we can distinguish it from a tapeworm while still no more than a single cell, with the possible exception of the author of this article.

We do not - can not, in this life - know the origin of the soul, so speculation about a physical event that marks its embodiment is mere prattle, not science. Some believe, some do not, and proof either way is meaningless to either opposite side.

We do know that IVF has produced perfectly normal babies who have become perfectly normal adults - and as far as we can tell, with perfectly normal souls. I believe that the time will come when someone, somewhere, will put a fertilized human egg into some contraption that will protect and nourish it for the necessary months to bring forth a fully normal human baby. When that happens, all arguments about the instant of transition from tissue blob to baby will be for naught.


51 posted on 07/26/2006 7:07:15 AM PDT by MainFrame65
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To: MonroeDNA
It is not really about abortion; it is about growing Catholics.

I'm having a hard time figuring out what you're trying to say. You do realize that the majority of pro-life advocates are Evangelical protestants? Not that Catholics aren't steadfastly behind the pro-life movements. It's simple demographics and numbers. And what does any of this have to do with anything?

52 posted on 07/26/2006 7:10:55 AM PDT by Warren_Piece (Smart is easy. Good is hard.)
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To: Numbers Guy

Ironic, since "sophomore" is a combination of Greek word-stems meaning "worthless wad of cells."


53 posted on 07/26/2006 7:13:24 AM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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To: MonroeDNA

"Where is the sympathy? One fourth of embryos are dying. Where is the outrage?"

I have grieved every single September for 37 years over the loss of a child at four months.

That little girl would have been my only girl and she is sorely missed.


54 posted on 07/26/2006 7:14:47 AM PDT by OpusatFR ( ALEA IACTA EST. We have just crossed the Rubicon.)
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To: MainFrame65
When that happens, all arguments about the instant of transition from tissue blob to baby will be for naught.

I wish I were that optimistic. I remember a time when the argument was that the fetus was a part of the mother's body, therefore nobody had the right to tell the mother what she could do with her "body".

Genetic science has taught us that, from the moment of conception, the child has a genetic code that is unique and totally seprate from the mother.

SOOO, they've changed the argument to the "parasite" one. I see no reason to believe the argument won't change again once this new argument has been disproven. There are none so blind as those that will not see.

55 posted on 07/26/2006 7:16:58 AM PDT by Warren_Piece (Smart is easy. Good is hard.)
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To: Numbers Guy
How can you kill something that is not yet living? Besides, banning abortion deprives the mother of her rights to property and to the pursuit of happiness. A fetus is not a living human, and the mother has the right to decide to abort it.

Since the author of this piece is apparently alive, does that mean they skipped the stage of fetus? If they had been aborted as a fetus - does this person contend they'd still be around to write this column.

Reagan had it right in calling those who advocate abortion are hypocrites - "Abortion is advocated only by those who have themselves been born."

56 posted on 07/26/2006 7:18:49 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Numbers Guy
Banning abortion would be a greater deprivation of basic human rights than continuing to uphold it. So why not allow the mother her innate right to decide whether or not this wad of cells will grow into a human? If anything, a fetus is merely a parasitical creature that uses the mother as its host. Tapeworms are parasites that house themselves in the intestinal tracts of humans, feeding off the food the host consumes. Comparatively, a fetus is little more than a tapeworm. It is quite common for humans to annihilate parasites with medications or toxins, so why not allow for fetuses to suffer the same fate?

I was going to send this person an e-mail, but this part of the article proves this person is too sick and evil to be receptive to it. A human fetus is the same as a tapeworm? Disgusting, sick, and stupid.

I think he's probably had several children aborted. Abortion doesn't stop you from being parent, though - just the parent of a dead baby that you paid to have killed.

57 posted on 07/26/2006 7:27:03 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

That would make a great tagline or bumpersticker! I'm keeping mine, though...


58 posted on 07/26/2006 7:35:26 AM PDT by pgyanke (Christ embraces sinners; liberals embrace the sin.)
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To: Numbers Guy
A fetus is not a living human, and the mother has the right to decide to abort it.

An interesting start. If it is not alive, what is there to abort? A non-living thing will not continue to grow, unless it's a cancer. Is that what you're claiming?

A wad of cells cannot make its own cognitive decisions.

Neither can an infant. Is an infant not a living human being?

A wad of cells doesn't have the capability to inhale or exhale with its lungs.

Neither can many people on artificial life support. Are they not living human beings?

A wad of cells cannot survive independently, as it relies completely on its mother for all its nutriment.

An infant cannot survive independently, neither can small children. They also depend completely on their mothers, or other external sources, for nutriment. Again, many people on artificial life support fit this description as well. Are they not living human beings?

So why would anyone provide a wad of cells with the outrageous status of a living human being?

It's "outrageous" to provide an unborn child with the "status" of a living human being? Would you be similarly "outraged" if I provide you with the status of "wad of cells"? That's what you are, after all. Heck, every living thing can be described as a "wad of cells"! But that description is really used to dodge the profound moral issues involved with the decision to end a life.

Besides, in legal terms, the Supreme Court's landmark decision in Roe v. Wade concluded that human life does not begin until life can be sustained outside of the womb.

Yes, that was the legal decision. It's hardly a carved-in-stone declaration of immutable truth. It's a very flawed legalistic decision based on the understanding and beliefs of a few flawed, mortal human beings.

Medically speaking, premature fetuses can very rarely be kept alive if they are born before the pregnancy's sixth month, or the end of the second trimester.

Medically speaking, there are lots of human beings who are in an unsurvivable position. This also does not give one license to terminate their lives at will. Imagine a triage center where those who have no hope of recovery are simply ripped limb from limb and thrown in the garbage. Would you be cool with that?

The mother deserves every right to make a decision to abort her fetus.

Would she have the same right to end the life of her infant child? After all, that child can't make its own decisions, provide for itself or survive long on its own. Since you seem to equate self-sufficiency with life, mom should be free to knock off any of her kids that cramp her style until they're living on their own, right?

If anything, a fetus is merely a parasitical creature that uses the mother as its host.

Here we begin to sense the true thoughts and feelings of the author. It's a sad glimpse into the mind of a selfish, narrow minded kid.

Tapeworms are parasites that house themselves in the intestinal tracts of humans, feeding off the food the host consumes. Comparatively, a fetus is little more than a tapeworm. It is quite common for humans to annihilate parasites with medications or toxins, so why not allow for fetuses to suffer the same fate?

The question is easily answered by considering the potential of each. Will a healthy tapeworm, if not eliminated, grow up into a human being? See, it's not really that hard if you use your brain.

Life begins when the baby is passed through the birth canal and exits the womb. At this point, the baby is no longer physically connected to the mother and no longer freeloading its nutrients and oxygen from mommy.

Sure it is! Have you ever actually witnessed a birth? According to your reasoning, even a child that has been born would be fair game, as long as the umbilical cord is intact. Then, at least mom could be witness to the abortion, as they tear her little body apart or plunge scissors into her skull.

"Shane Krouse is a..."self-righteous, pompous ass.

59 posted on 07/26/2006 7:36:41 AM PDT by TChris (Banning DDT wasn't about birds. It was about power.)
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To: OpusatFR

May God bless and comfort your heart.


60 posted on 07/26/2006 7:39:13 AM PDT by pgyanke (Christ embraces sinners; liberals embrace the sin.)
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