Posted on 07/25/2006 2:50:50 PM PDT by Monitor
They better get Sandy Burglar in there to take/destroy some documents before it is too late.
Why, so Bush can slap another one on the hand?
WOW -- Fedora, I told you I thought you were Clarice ..and this!! LOL.
You're SO damn good ... PLEASE write a book with all your research. I'll be your editor and proofreader ;). Congrats on this PUBLIC acknowledgement of all your hard work .. you deserve it SO much. Kudos and HUGS!
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One of OUR OWN PING!!
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Boy .. the memories of that trip and the sham and cost of it still makes my blood BOIL!
You're mentioned here Fedora - and there are also some details I hadn't seen before found by other bloggers near the bottom.
Fedora...see? Now get those books written. At least send your stuff to Conservative magazines! :-)
ping for a very interesting read, later!
I'm SO THRILLED for her!!! Write on!
My dear friend Fedora is a man! LOL
And I've been telling him to put all of his well researched stuff into a book/s, for a VERY longtime, now. But like you, I am delighted to see that he is getting public recognition! I know how long and how hard he has been working on this.
He's not only brilliant, but a VERY kind, intelligent, knowledgeable man. He's ALWAYS been a "star", in my book.
Thanks piasa.
I'll read it.
NOVEMBER 1999 : (NIGER : MAMADOU ELECTED PRESIDENT IN CLOSE ELECTION) a former army officer, Tandja Mamadou, was elected president after a close-run election. - "On this Day 9 April 1999: President of Niger 'killed in ambush,' BBC News
Thank you Fedora.
Well in the old days when he would blather on and on, Wilson talked a bit too much in October, 2003 at UVA event when discussing his pertinent experience for the 2002 trip:
I was asked to go because I have a unique set of experiences to bring to the table on this issue. I had served there in the mid 1970’s. I had retained many ties and friendships including with the Niger Ambassador to the United States for the subsequent twenty-five years.
When I was senior director for Africa at the National Security Council in the mid 1990’s, the government that was in place at the time of these purported documents covering the memorandum of agreement for the sale of Uranium from Niger to Iraq, that was the government that was in place when I was in the White House. I had worked very closely with them to try and move what was at the time a military’s dictatorship back to the Democratic side of the ledger.
This is all well and good and makes sense. But it also covers his time in the government, not when he went into private practice. That description followed next [emphasis mine]:
So, I knew these guys intimately. They were in Washington all of the time. I was out there both in government and in African government helping them.
There’s the transition point. He was using his contacts from his government job to launch his business. Moreover, his clients were the African governments he used to be a US representative to, including Niger. It is clear from the ‘in African Government’ wording that Joe was hired by Niger to help with trade (and they only had one thing to trade). Then he spills some info on the timing of his trip:
In fact after the President, the military dictator had been assassinated, I went to see his successor and at the request of some of my friends there and some of the colleagues with whom I had been working, I went to see the new military dictator and I told him in no uncertain terms, that the only way he was going to get out of this mess, not just alive, but perhaps with a chance to restore his own personal honor, and the honor of his organization, the Presidential guard that had been responsible for the assassination of his predecessor.
Well, that jives 100% with the May 1oth, BBC article referenced above. Was “the request of some of my friends there and some of the colleagues with whom I had been working” a request from the CIA? Did he accidentally let slip more on how he viewed these ‘requestors’?
Niger did go on to have elections in October and November of 1999. ‘Ol Ego-Joe took a lot of credit for the results when reminiscing at the UVA event:
The only chance he had was to get out and effect a change back to democratic rule as quickly as possible. I told him, I said, that you need to understand from my experience in Africa that your successor president probably will not be very comfortable with you standing watching his back after you have effected the transition.
After all, your organization was responsible for the assassination of your predecessor shooting him in the back. Therefore, I said to him, I think that you probably ought to leave the country for a while. Those are pretty strong words to walk into a military barracks and tell a guy who has assassinated his predecessor and has assumed responsibility for his country.
I came back a year later during the course of the transition and the president met me at the airport.
OK. While Joe pat’s himself on the back, like he often does, he has given us a window in 1999 for his visit for the CIA. It had to be between the coup and the elections: April and October 1999. But we can whittle this window down a lot. Here is that time period in Niger history from Wikepedia: In votes that international observers found to be generally free and fair, the Nigerien electorate approved the new constitution in July 1999 and held legislative and presidential elections in October and November 1999. Heading a coalition of the National Movement for a Developing Society (MNSD) and the Democratic and Social Convention (CDS), Mamadou Tandja won the presidency."
Again, back to Ego-Joe for some clarification:
The only chance he had was to get out and effect a change back to democratic rule as quickly as possible.
The new democratic rule did not come into existence until July with the constitution. It is clear from Niger’s history and Joe’s own words that Wilson was more than likely in Niger, meeting with Mayaki and Wanke, when the Iraq delegation attempted to make contact for trade in June. Joe was there for trade as well. What are the chances he first learned of the Iraqi meeting in 1999 and not 2002 as he claims?
Was Joe working a CIA front? Or were some of the folks at the CIA working a rogue effort in Niger?
How is it the wife of a CIA WMD expert, charged with monitoring trade in uranium yellowcake, is married to someone who works for Niger establishing trade with that one-product country?
Were the forged documents and the 2002 trip meant to cover tracks that could be discovered if Niger was investigated too deeply? Was there reason to be concerned about missing uranium in 1999 from Niger (there had been a coup d’etat)?
Too much coincidence for me. I wonder if anyone with real resources will investigate this angle."
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