Posted on 07/25/2006 11:13:09 AM PDT by wagglebee
THE first men to walk on the Moon reported seeing a UFO, a new TV documentary reveals.
Astronaut Buzz Aldrin, the second man to walk on the Moon's surface after Neil Armstrong, says space agency bosses covered up their sighting.
And the Apollo 11 astronauts were also careful not to talk about it openly.
He said: "There was something out there, close enough to be observed, and what could it be?
"Now, obviously the three of us weren't going to blurt out, 'Hey, Houston, we've got something moving alongside of us and we don't know what it is, you know?
"Can you tell us what it is?'
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"We weren't about to do that, because we knew that that those transmissions would be heard by all sorts of people and somebody might have demanded we turn back because of aliens or whatever the reason is."
The documentary, tonight on Five, also reveals that the astronauts had to repair the lunar module with a ballpoint pen after the historic landing in July 1969.
In the cramped conditions, someone's bulky spacesuit had snapped off a circuit breaker essential for starting up the engine.
To this day, Aldrin treasures the everyday object that saved their lives.
He said: "I used a pen, one of several that we had on board that didn't have metal on the end, and we used that to push the circuit breaker in."
The programme also draws on classified documents made public for the first time.
I dunno.
Coming from a guy named 'buzz', this is not unexpected.
You also left out the Methodists and the Masons.
Dear Sam,
Isn't it wonderful when thoughtful folks increase our eternal reward by their assaultive insults! Can't lose on the winning side! LOL.
The Col Md's corp Director Ronald must be a particularly enlightening source in the two transcript chunks.
Hi Quix. I don't mind if they want to have a little fun with it, but it's a real stretch for anyone to be so sure that something isn't happening just because they've never seen it, or because it's contrary to a prior assumption. There are way too many truly credible witnesses to dismiss the subject so offhandedly.
Man has often been arrogant enough to think he understands everything, and he's always been proven wrong. He doesn't understand many things, not even within the limits of his own particular intelligence.
UFO PING LIST PING
NOTE: I'm still dinking around with several list versions trying to get them alphabatized accurately without the dysfunctional MS Word sort function. If I've left anyone out or included wrong people, am sorry. Please let me know. Will eventually get it sorted out. I hope!
to the Linda Moulton Howe transcript portions--actually--my typing while listening to the interview portions on C2CAM last night when it played the 2nd time early in the AM.
Linda interviewed the corporate Director of the retired Col MD's company. The MD had been a Roman Catholic and had his faith thoroughly rattled by being ordered to view alien autopsies at Wright Patterson in the late 1940's. He'd kept his silence until about 1975 when it was causing him so much anguish, he finally, over a month, shared about it with his chief employee whom he'd come to feel like was as a son to him. It's this "son," employee--Director of the MD's corp whom Linda has the interview with.
It's very sobering . . . as much for the human anguish in it as for the ET revelations. The "son" Ronald S (not Z and I didn't get the name because it is difficult to spell and I wasn't quick enough on the typing when George spelled it) The "son" is extremely articulate, forceful, thoughtful, spontaneous in the sense of being immediately responsive etc. Extremely believable by this shrink.
The MD finally talked to Ron about it because he respected Ron's Christianity and was seeking for a way to get his faith back.
A 2nd portion follows down thread a bit.
Well put.
What did you think of Linda's interview? Any comments?
I can identify the sun, moon, big dipper, North Star, Little Dipper, Venus, the ecliptic and the "Seven Sisters". Everything else up there is a UFO.
Those aren't flying. They're orbiting. That's different.
I remember a mnemonic from my childhood
"Take the arc to Arcturus then speed on to Spica"
If you follow the curve of the handle of the big dipper to the next bright start you'll find Arcturus ("Take the arc to Arcturus"). Then if you extend a straight line on in the same direction the next bright start is Spica ("then speed on to Spica").
They are evidently biologicals with mechanical enhancements.
I still think the assertions of some that they are bioengineered housings for demonic forces is also quite plausible. Don't know that 100% of them are such but wouldn't doubt that some certain groups or classes are.
And, I still believe that all the better known ET races are in cahoots with satan toward setting up the global government.
On that score, this Hal Lindsey thread is interesting:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1673852/posts
YES!! Linda is of the old school of journalism and with a fiercely held set of standards. Even George Noory insists one can take to the bank whatever she says publically. She won't go public with anything without some very thorough investigation and usually many different sources of at least partial corroboration.
Having met her in person and chatted for some time about such things . . . she has a virtually religious zeal at this point . . . is increasingly furious with the shadow government.
My own interpretation of that zeal is that she's suffered so much harrassment from the 'big boys' and labored so diligently for such meager incomes given all the givens . . . and very especially primary: she sees the stakes for our Republic and our world as so high . . . that she's gotten increasingly irate at all the secrecy etc.
I think she's sukper pointedly irate very Especially considering that she knows that NONELECTED darkly motivated; cruel deceptive folks are really the ones in charge of things and spending so much taxpayer money like it was water.
And, I'm convinced from her facial reaction and tones of voice that she has some inside scoop on whatever horrid drama is supposedly coming in 2012 but she will not let out a shred of anything about it--not even a hint of what ballpark it's concerned with.
Anyway--for a NonChristian--though she pointedly wears a Cross--more as a talisman, I think than the focus of her belief . . . I'd trust her a lot with my life in a lot of situations just because of her fierce integrity about so many things and in seeking out the truth, whatever that is.
Um ... did you have a point? You've posted a lot of words without actually saying anything.
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Didn't realize I'd been so obscure with so many difficult words. Certainly not my intent.
However, I don't have the delusion that my humble words will communicate meaning to everyone. Some folks are very disinclined to see, hear, learn anything which jangles their death-grip-held-biases the least bit.
Therefore, I write primarily for those with ears to hear and eyes to see. I wouldn't want to waste the time of others.
That arrogance part is sooooooooooooo true.
And, I think that is one of God's major missions in all this End Times stuff . . . to show ALL CREATION that He Alone is All Wise; All Knowing . . .
The costs of that lesson look to be staggering, indeed . . . as the costliness of pride, usually is.
He's not called "Buzz" for nothing.
Roll another one.
THWANKS THWEETY . . . feels soooooo good when I'm whipped and beaten.
/sar
2. In one interview of Aldrin I heard, he was asked about the first thing they did when they landed on the moon. He launched into a description of how they had to adjust their urine collection bags which were connected to their penises with a condom-like device. While probably true, the lack of verbal editing seemed to me a sign that Aldrin was losing it.
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