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7/25 Middle East Live Thread
Middle East Live Thread ^ | 7/25/06 | me

Posted on 07/24/2006 10:53:04 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice salutes a US Marine as she walks towards a helicopter upon her departure from Beirut after meeting with Lebanese officials.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; hezbians; hezbollah; hezbullies; hezebola; hezzians; hezzies; hizballah; hizbullah; iran; islam; israel; jihad; lebanon; middleeast; muhammadsminions; syria; terrorism; terrorists; ww3; wwiii; wwwiii
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To: Peach
That Lebanon is not choosing to work with international forces to get rid of these barbarians speaks volumes about the goverment there.

Yes, it says they don't have the ability to do anything about Hizb'allah. If they were to try their army would schism along religious lines.

222 posted on 07/25/2006 5:47:43 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter
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To: Straight Vermonter

yaknow they're all just thugs and gangsters...Religous..sure..works for brainwashing...Godly? NO.


223 posted on 07/25/2006 5:47:48 AM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (level headed analyst here...armed to the teeth)
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To: GOP_Proud
What it is about so many conservative men. They are so manly.

Dick Cheney, Paul Gigot, Bibi, Bill Sammon, the list just goes on and on.

THUD

224 posted on 07/25/2006 5:49:06 AM PDT by mware (Americans in armchairs doing the job of the media.)
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To: Straight Vermonter

I realize they don't have the military to do anything about Hezbollah, but the government officials have rejected letting international forces help them do something about Hezbollah.


226 posted on 07/25/2006 5:49:10 AM PDT by Peach (Prayers for our dear friends in Israel.)
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To: mware; DCPatriot

ping


227 posted on 07/25/2006 5:49:33 AM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: mware

Aha, thanks ;)
I'll remember that.


228 posted on 07/25/2006 5:50:28 AM PDT by stopem (God Bless the U.S.A the Troops who protect her, and their Commander In Chief !)
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To: Peach

Well..that's a rather ominous sign. Shows how entrenched Hizballah has become- and how fearful are it's opponents.


229 posted on 07/25/2006 5:50:56 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-pray for Israel))
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To: mystery-ak

If you have photobucket you might want to download that photo just in case I miss one of the ME threads.


230 posted on 07/25/2006 5:51:17 AM PDT by mware (Americans in armchairs doing the job of the media.)
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To: mware

I do...and that's a good idea.....just in case, you know...hehehe


231 posted on 07/25/2006 5:52:04 AM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: Lizarde
I am shocked -- shocked! -- at the sorry display I've seen this morning by the "ladies" on this thread.

Can you imagine seeing male Freepers acting so childishly over some woman?

232 posted on 07/25/2006 5:53:03 AM PDT by umbagi (Monthly Donor [entry level])
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To: stopem; mystery-ak
"I think I have the first THUD this morning.."

What does "thud" mean?

It's that sound I hear when the car bombs are kind of far off.

233 posted on 07/25/2006 5:53:12 AM PDT by Allegra (FReeping LIVE! from suddenly one of the safer places in the Middle East)
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To: SE Mom

Here's a part of an analysis from the Energy Information Administration dated 2006.

"Refining and Transportation

As of January 2005, Iran had nine aging (most built before the 1979 Iranian revolution) but operational refineries with a combined capacity of 1.47 million bbl/d. Major refineries include: Abadan (400,000-bbl/d capacity); Isfahan (265,000 bbl/d); Bandar Abbas (232,000 bbl/d); Tehran (225,000 bbl/d); Arak (150,000 bbl/d); and Tabriz (112,000 bbl/d). In order to meet burgeoning domestic demand for middle and light distillates (gasoline demand is growing at around 9 percent per year), Iran plans to increase its refining capacity, possibly to 2.2 million bbl/d by 2008, although this will be extremely difficult to achieve given the security situation in the country.

One goal of this expansion is to allow Iran's refineries to process a heavier crude slate while decreasing the fuel oil cut. Currently, Iran's refineries produce around 30 percent heavy fuel oil and just 16 percent gasoline. In addition, diesel sulfur levels are slated for a major reduction (from 500 parts per million to 50 ppm by 2010), requiring significant additional hydrotreating capacity.

Iran has imported refined products since 1982, and these imports have been increasing rapidly. In 2005, Iran has been importing an estimated 170,000 bbl/d of gasoline at an estimated annual cost of around $3-$4 billion. According to Petroleum Argus, around 60 percent of this comes from European oil trader, Vitol, with another 15 percent coming from India’s 600,000-bbl/d Reliance refinery. For 2006, according to the FACTS consulting firm, Iran is expected to produce 266,000 bbl/d of gasoline, consume 462,000 bbl/d, and import 196,000 bbl/d.

In June 2004, Japan's JGC reached an agreement with Iran to expand Arak to 250,000 bbl/d by 2009. In addition, Abadan is being expanded by 50,000 bbl/d, with completion expected by spring 2006 (in addition, a new, 180,000-bbl/d-capacity refinery is being planned for Abadan). Bandar Abbas is being expanded in several phases, adding around 250,000 bbl/d of capacity by 2010 (and significantly more after that). Two planned grassroots refineries include a 225,000-bbl/d plant at Shah Bahar and a 120,000-bbl/d unit on Qeshm Island.

Under Iranian law, foreign companies are permitted to own no more than 49 percent of Iranian oil refining assets.

Iran exports crude oil via four main terminals -Kharg Island (by far the largest), Lavan Island, Sirri Island (reopened on April 13, 2003 for the first time since 1988, when it was damaged by an Iraqi air raid), and Ras Bahregan. Refined products are exported via the Abadan and Bandar Mahshahr terminals. Many Iranian oil export terminals were damaged during the Iran-Iraq War, but all have been rebuilt."

I think refineries are being currently built but are not online, the one I'm thinking of is in conjunction with Sinotec (Chinese).


234 posted on 07/25/2006 5:53:34 AM PDT by Dinah Lord (fighting the Islamic Jihad - one keystroke at a time...)
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To: CougarGA7

"Apparently the two year old only says "Raar...et you!" Then he tackles his brother."

Sounds like you have a good future linebacker there.


235 posted on 07/25/2006 5:53:38 AM PDT by Canedawg (In God We Trust)
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To: Dinah Lord

Now you know why Iran reacts so violently to proposed UNSC sanctions that threaten refined imports. We tend to view UNSC sanctions in light of Saddam's scoffong at them, Iran, however, takes them seriously.

This is a highly leveragable option which could wreck Iran's economy and motivate the Iranian people to overthrow the Mullahs, and the Mullahs know it.

This is also perhaps the only reason why Iran would think the unthinkable, i.e. pursue a course of action which the average westerner would consider such a long-shot as to cross the line into irrationality.

In other words, closing the Gulf, attacking Iraq, militarily occupying Saudi, Kuwaiti, and Iraqi oilfields, and attacking Israeli nuclear facilities with long range missiles. If you hear me refer to Iran/Syria "going big", this is the general idea.


236 posted on 07/25/2006 5:54:50 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: jeffers

Haaretz


15:40 Katyusha rockets land in open areas near Safed and Hatzor; no injuries (Haaretz)
15:27 Siren sounds in Safed (Haaretz)
15:26 Rice: There is a need to remain focused on establishing a Palestinian state (Reuters)
15:25 Lebanese PM says will press for immediate cease-fire at Rome conference (Reuters)
14:42 Olmert: Israel to allow aid airlifts to Lebanon (Reuters)
14:40 Woman dies of wounds incurred in rocket strike on Kafr Maghar in Galilee (Haaretz)
14:26 Police probe accusations of sexual harassment against Justice Min. Ramon (Haaretz)
14:19 Hezbollah rockets ignite fires in open fields of Galilee panhandle (Haaretz)
14:11 Resident of Galilee village of Maghar seriously hurt by Hezbollah rocket (Haaretz)
14:02 Saudi king: Mideast war may erupt if Israel doesn`t halt Lebanon, Gaza raids (Reuters)
14:01 Saudi King Abdullah pledges $500 million to help rebuild Lebanon (Reuters)
13:58 Jordan: Arab states to insist on cease-fire, Lebanese sovereignty over all territory (AP)
13:37 Dozens of J`lem Arab families request permission to host Galilee Arabs (Haaretz)
13:03 Defense Minister Peretz meeting with Rice (Israel Radio)
13:00 General strike in Ramallah as hundreds of Palestinians protest Rice visit (Haaretz)
12:52 Seven rockets hit Kiryat Shmona; no reported casualties (Israel Radio)
12:50 Rocket hits Haifa restaurant; damage but no casualties (Israel Radio)
12:48 Rocket attacks cause extensive damage in Haifa`s lower city (Haaretz)
12:47 Two moderately wounded, 10 lightly wounded in Haifa rocket attack (Haaretz)
12:25 Five rockets hit Nahariya; no injuries reported (Haaretz)
12:24 Seven people wounded in rocket attack in Haifa, two of them lightly (Haaretz)
12:23 Police arrest East Jerusalem youth suspected of planning stabbing attack (Haaretz)
12:17 16 rockets strike city of Haifa, two of them in residential areas (Israel Radio)


237 posted on 07/25/2006 5:55:29 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: umbagi
Can you imagine seeing male Freepers acting so childishly over some woman?

LOL, If you guys can invoke the Coulter rule we can enact the Bibi rule or the Bill Sammon rule.

Oh my I just mention Sammon, I must follow the rules.

Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting

238 posted on 07/25/2006 5:56:20 AM PDT by mware (Americans in armchairs doing the job of the media.)
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To: mware; mystery-ak

THUD!

Second!

239 posted on 07/25/2006 5:56:39 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl (JOHN BOLTON FOR PRESIDENT!)
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To: Peach
I realize they don't have the military to do anything about Hezbollah, but the government officials have rejected letting international forces help them do something about Hezbollah.

In the Arab mind someone can be a failure and/or inept but they can never admit it. This is why their countries become so disfunctional, even with tons of oil wealth (think Saudi Arabia), they are unable to admit they are on the wrong course and correct things.

240 posted on 07/25/2006 5:57:08 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter
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