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Questionable books (Minuteman-Simcox)
The Washington Times ^ | July 25, 2006 | Staff

Posted on 07/24/2006 10:16:33 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182

As supporters of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, we were disheartened to read Jerry Seper's front-page article Thursday about questions and criticisms of President Chris Simcox's management of the organization. According to the article, the volunteer group has not made any financial statements or fundraising records public since April 2005 -- circumstances that have strained relations between Mr. Simcox and several of his top employees, some of whom have resigned in protest.

Mr. Simcox must resolve these problems quickly. Failure to do so would only encourage the organization's critics -- who have made no secret of their desire to see the Minuteman volunteers arrested for vigilantism. But more importantly, according to Mr. Simcox's estimate, Americans have donated $1.6 million to the corps because they believe in their mission to secure the southern border. In return, the least they should expect is transparency and the assurance that their donations went to help the volunteers in the field. But the truth is that no one except Mr. Simcox knows how much money has been donated and what it has been used for.

So far, Mr. Simcox has been unable to come up with a good explanation -- at least one that can be independently verified. And while he insists the money went to help field operations, workers at these locations tell a different story. For instance, Vern Kilburn, who resigned earlier this year as director of operations for the organization's northern Texas sector, told The Washington Times that only two checks for $1,000 came from Minuteman headquarters in October and that other directors across the country "are having similar problems." Some volunteers said that money promised by Mr. Simcox for food and supplies never arrived. "An awful lot of equipment I saw was donated," said Mike Gaddy,...."

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; bookreview; conniehair; immigrantlist; immigration; jerryseper; keyes; mcdc; minutemanproject; minutemen; mmp; scam; seper; simcox
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To: Paige
I've been rather nice considering the blatant disregard for real proof against Chris

Good Lord man there is so much smoke here when the flames show up it will be like the Chicago fire. You really act like you personally know "Chris". If you don't then what in the heck makes you trust him so completely? BTW stop with the "more conservative than thou" crap. That is is another description of a John Birch conspiracy freak.

261 posted on 07/25/2006 8:13:58 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Paige
Jesus certainly does know my heart.

Matt 21:12 (NIV) Jesus entered the temple area and drove out all who were buying and selling there. He overturned the tables of the money changers and the benches of those selling doves. 13 "It is written," he said to them, "`My house will be called a house of prayer,' but you are making it a `den of robbers.'"

I, like Jesus, am tired of people like Simcox and his supporters (that would be you and your ilk) using FR, the Conservative movement, and the GOP to line their OWN POCKETS.

262 posted on 07/25/2006 8:14:20 PM PDT by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: Howlin; EternalVigilance
He spent 100 posts on how awful it was to link to the SPLC, yet he linked to all kinds of nefarious sites for Guiliani pics, etc.
The sad thing is he doesn't have a clue how badly he has hurts the causes he supposedly supports.
263 posted on 07/25/2006 8:14:24 PM PDT by Rex Anderson
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To: Petronski

As they say, 'working to the contract.'

My god, do you think he's UNION?


264 posted on 07/25/2006 8:14:58 PM PDT by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: Howlin

Where did I put the lyrics of that song algore wrote for the labor movement . . .


265 posted on 07/25/2006 8:19:49 PM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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To: Petronski

You know, I'm not even interested in this anymore; I just drop by every night to see exactly how many of them are willing to go down with him.


266 posted on 07/25/2006 8:21:03 PM PDT by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: Howlin
I just drop by every night to see exactly how many of them are willing to go down with him.

Only those that have no choice.

267 posted on 07/25/2006 8:22:52 PM PDT by Texasforever (I have neither been there nor done that.)
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To: Texasforever

I see.


268 posted on 07/25/2006 8:23:47 PM PDT by Howlin (Pres.Bush ought to be ashamed of himself for allowing foreign countries right on our borders!!~~Zook)
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To: TLI
Gilchrist was being factual and rational about numbers of illegals and required resources to deal with them. What didn't play was the constant references to the "slave trade" and "slave wages". That's BS. Illegals aren't working for "slave wages". They are working for substantially less than union labor. Unions hate being undercut. Employers of illegals are the criminals in the sense that they pay under the table. When an illegal gets paid tax free under the table, the take home is fairly close to what a union puke gets AFTER taxes are removed. The parties short changed are taxpayers who get saddled with social services consumed by illegals who aren't contributing to the tax base.

Gilchrist is being replayed right now. He's whining about products manufactured by slave labor in China, imported into Lazaro Cardenas without the use of UNION longshoremen and transported by Mexican truckers instead of UNION Teamsters. No union labor involved in any part of the process and a cause for union shills to whine. The man has a UNION agenda that he sugar coats with national security concerns. He's whining about "living wages now". He's proud of his father's founding of a railroad union. Gilchrist and Corsi are socialist union shills.

269 posted on 07/25/2006 8:26:07 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Rex Anderson

Somebody got real quiet all of a sudden, didn't he?


270 posted on 07/25/2006 8:29:31 PM PDT by Amelia (If we hire them, they will come...)
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To: Paige
While we are whining about money not being appropriately used, why not raise some questions about how government money is wasted and elected officials aren't held accountable.

No. That is not the subject of these threads. The subject here is the lack of financial disclosure and the appearance of mishandling by Chris Simcox and the MCDC.

Something stinks to high heaven with Simcox and MCDC, and it has nothing to do with jealousy or being comfortable finding someone guilty, or whatever else you pull out of your hat.

This is Simcox's own doing, and whether or not you are capable of stepping away and looking at *the facts* with a logical perspective doesn't matter. They are still facts, and independent thinkers (without the emotional 'true conservative' baggage you bring here) are capable of analyzing the discrepancies in Simcox's own words.

This is a mess for the MCDC, and the fault lies with them, not with the posters on FR, and not with journalists that caught them red handed.

271 posted on 07/25/2006 8:30:57 PM PDT by Rex Anderson
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To: Amelia

like clockwork


272 posted on 07/25/2006 8:34:59 PM PDT by Rex Anderson
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Thank you for the ping. These threads are very informative and tie together loose strings that came up long ago.


273 posted on 07/25/2006 8:37:38 PM PDT by unsycophant
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To: Amelia
"Somebody got real quiet all of a sudden, didn't he?"

And then someone else suddenly showed up - they must have some payroll there.
274 posted on 07/25/2006 8:40:05 PM PDT by decal (Different Tagline Tomorrow!)
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To: decal; Amelia

I've never had to go get marching orders. I wonder what that is like.


275 posted on 07/25/2006 8:41:39 PM PDT by Rex Anderson
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To: Paige
I can bite too.

By the way, "biter" means a "hater".
(Not that someone actually bites...)

276 posted on 07/25/2006 8:44:27 PM PDT by Rex Anderson
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To: Amelia

You guys are so funny.

You think because a consulting firm lists me on its website that I support John Cox.

Yet another example of how your kneejerk suppositions and poor research skills get you in trouble.

I don't support Cox.

Like George Allen, he thinks a virtual fence is sufficient.


277 posted on 07/25/2006 8:44:40 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (If Mr. Bush won't enforce the laws against hiring them, they will come...)
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To: Registered

Here's yet another org registered to the same Diener address:

Survivors And Victims Empowered
1725 Oregon Pike, Suite 106
Lancaster, PA 17601
http://www.s-a-v-e.org

What *don't* these people have their hands in?


278 posted on 07/25/2006 8:45:03 PM PDT by unsycophant
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To: Paige
While we are whining about money not being appropriately used, why not raise some questions about how government money is wasted and elected officials aren't held accountable.

Those talking points sound familiar.

Are you maybe one of the people listed below?

Craig Bergman, Sarah Gossman, Devon Shaw, Thomas Hoefling, Jack Roher and Jim Pfaff

Thanks in advance.

279 posted on 07/25/2006 8:48:02 PM PDT by Amelia (If we hire them, they will come...)
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To: Rex Anderson

Yeah, a great deal of accusations and whining without proof. When proof is found and indictments come forth...then I'll see how the verdict comes back. Until then, all there is (as per usual) is a whole lot of whining.


280 posted on 07/25/2006 8:49:20 PM PDT by Paige ("Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism." --George Washington)
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