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Specter prepping bill to sue Bush - Specter bill would let Congress sue Bush ('signing statements')
AP on Yahoo ^ | 7/24/06 | Laurie Kellman - ap

Posted on 07/24/2006 5:00:04 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WASHINGTON - A powerful Republican committee chairman who has led the fight against President Bush's signing statements said Monday he would have a bill ready by the end of the week allowing Congress to sue him in federal court.

"We will submit legislation to the United States Senate which will...authorize the Congress to undertake judicial review of those signing statements with the view to having the president's acts declared unconstitutional," Judiciary Committee Chairman Arlen Specter, R-Pa., said on the Senate floor.

Specter's announcement came the same day that an American Bar Association task force concluded that by attaching conditions to legislation, the president has sidestepped his constitutional duty to either sign a bill, veto it, or take no action.

Bush has issued at least 750 signing statements during his presidency, reserving the right to revise, interpret or disregard laws on national security and constitutional grounds.

"That non-veto hamstrings Congress because Congress cannot respond to a signing statement," said ABA president Michael Greco. The practice, he added "is harming the separation of powers."

Bush has challenged about 750 statutes passed by Congress, according to numbers compiled by Specter's committee. The ABA estimated Bush has issued signing statements on more than 800 statutes, more than all other presidents combined.

Signing statements have been used by presidents, typically for such purposes as instructing agencies how to execute new laws.

But many of Bush's signing statements serve notice that he believes parts of bills he is signing are unconstitutional or might violate national security.

Still, the White House said signing statements are not intended to allow the administration to ignore the law.

"A great many of those signing statements may have little statements about questions about constitutionality," said White House spokesman Tony Snow. "It never says, 'We're not going to enact the law.'"

Specter's announcement intensifies his challenge of the administration's use of executive power on a number of policy matters. Of particular interest to him are two signing statements challenging the provisions of the USA Patriot Act renewal, which he wrote, and legislation banning the use of torture on detainees.

Bush is not without congressional allies on the matter. Sen. John Cornyn (news, bio, voting record), R-Texas, a former judge, has said that signing statements are nothing more than expressions of presidential opinion that carry no legal weight because federal courts are unlikely to consider them when deciding cases that challenge the same laws.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Pennsylvania; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 109th; bill; bush; congress; govwatch; judiciary; newmajority; prepping; rino; rmsp; scottishlaw; signingstatements; specter; sue
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To: hipaatwo

No, thank YOU for that great link!


81 posted on 07/24/2006 7:47:00 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: Congressman Billybob; holdonnow

Would love to hear what you two have to say about this.


82 posted on 07/24/2006 7:51:13 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (NEVER AGAIN..Support our Troops! www.irey.com and www.vets4Irey.com - Now more than Ever!)
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To: nonliberal
If Specter isn't careful, he is going to cost Santorum the election.

I think that's his intent, the backstabbing creep!

83 posted on 07/24/2006 7:59:48 PM PDT by pray4liberty (School District horrors: http://totallyunjust.tripod.com)
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To: advance_copy

Arlen Specter is totally ungrateful for the assistance and support provided to him by Bush in 2004, and this is not the first example of that lack of civility toward the Bush White House.


84 posted on 07/24/2006 8:11:40 PM PDT by alloysteel (My spelling is Wobbly. It's good spelling, but it Wobbles, and the letters get in the wrong places.)
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To: alloysteel

Time for Bush and Rove to dig up some dirt on Arlen.


85 posted on 07/24/2006 8:16:54 PM PDT by abercrombie_guy_38
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To: NormsRevenge

Spector is such a slimeball.


86 posted on 07/24/2006 8:17:47 PM PDT by Gimme
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To: NormsRevenge
I wish he would quit giving the rest of us at SPECTRE a bad name.

I think that the SPecial Executive Council for Terrorism Revenge Extortion is doing just fine in congress as it is. Except it's called the "Democratic Party" now.

87 posted on 07/24/2006 8:35:27 PM PDT by NurdlyPeon (Wearing My 'Jammies Proudly)
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To: Just A Nobody
Let's see how Santorum does. The proof is in the pudding, as they say. No matter how hard you wish and hope, it won't change reality. No Republican can win in my city, period, and we just have to choose the least repugnant of the remaining candidates.
I hope you are right but saying it's so doesn't make it true. It's painful and I may be premature but I don't think any amount of clapping is gonna bring back the magic fairy.
I don't advocate giving up however, I believe we have the force of history on our side and will eventually be able to win in areas closed to us now but choosing the correct battles is central to our eventual success.
88 posted on 07/24/2006 8:40:20 PM PDT by Uriah_lost (http://www.wingercomics.com/d/20051205.html)
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To: Just A Nobody
On another note, Irey has a chance because of very special circumstances and her election will be a great triumph. She could change some people that would never consider voting for a Republican.
89 posted on 07/24/2006 8:43:22 PM PDT by Uriah_lost (http://www.wingercomics.com/d/20051205.html)
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To: Popman
This will turn into a constitutional crisis.

Bush will simply veto Spinchter's bill.

90 posted on 07/24/2006 8:43:25 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (999-TNS)
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To: Just A Nobody
Bravo Sierra! If 72,125 dead, illegal and repeat voters had voted differently, President Bush would have won PA.

RINOs benefit more from Democrat vote fraud than even the Democrats themselves.

91 posted on 07/24/2006 9:04:55 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: nonliberal

Does PA have a law that allows a politician to be recalled?


92 posted on 07/24/2006 9:05:07 PM PDT by KCRW
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To: NormsRevenge
I'm wondering if Bush (43) is the first president to "sign statements".

Personally, I wish he would veto half the nonsense that crosses his desk from Congress.

93 posted on 07/24/2006 9:19:05 PM PDT by 3catsanadog (When anything goes, everything does.)
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To: NormsRevenge

I wonder if the knob researched this via Scottish law?

This clown is a disgrace to Highlanders everywhere...


94 posted on 07/24/2006 9:21:12 PM PDT by snuffy smiff (used to hang folks for treason; wish they still did...)
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To: NormsRevenge
He is trying to bypass the checks and balances that our founding fathers put in place. This should be resisted at all costs. Specter has no place in the senate. Hopefully next time he will get knocked off in the primary as he should have been in '04.
95 posted on 07/24/2006 9:23:38 PM PDT by KoRn
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To: NurdlyPeon
Except it's called the "Democratic Party" now.

RINOs are just as complicit. Definition of a RINO: A "Republican" whose political enemies and opponents are to the right of him.

96 posted on 07/24/2006 9:32:11 PM PDT by supercat (Sony delenda est.)
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To: allen185
> I'm a liberal and I think these signing statements are great. Since President Bush set the precedent, democratic Presidents will be able to use them too.... Like I said. I think it's a great idea. I think all Presidents should have more power.

Careful, there...

Being a liberal won't get you zotted, per se. FReepers are sometimes tolerant of liberals.

Even being a fool won't get you zotted, per se. FReepers sometimes suffer fools, albeit not gladly.

But being a foolish liberal smart-ass might just require a call to the Viking Kitties. You're in Jim-Rob's living room as a guest. Show respect, even if you disagree mightily.

97 posted on 07/24/2006 9:36:18 PM PDT by dayglored (Listen, strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Arlen is such a tool! The main who came up with the "magic bullet theory" to explain how one bullet could hit and enter two men in the same car in Dallas 1963. Can this guy just go away!!


98 posted on 07/24/2006 9:40:45 PM PDT by cmiller623 (Mayor Antonio Villa....or never mind. Los Angeles is doomed!)
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To: NormsRevenge

I dislike Spectre more than the next person but this is not a bad thing IMO. "Signing statements" by any President are an affront to the Constitution.


99 posted on 07/24/2006 9:42:30 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: KCRW

Not sure. If they do, they should use it.


100 posted on 07/24/2006 9:43:01 PM PDT by nonliberal (Graduate: Curtis E. LeMay School of International Relations)
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