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Climate change experts predict drop in Lake Erie water levels
AP/ohio.com ^ | Sunday, Jul 23, 2006

Posted on 07/23/2006 4:44:02 PM PDT by quantim

CLEVELAND - The newest update to a Lake Erie management plan predicts global warming will lead to a steep drop in water levels over the next 64 years, a change that could cause the lake's surface area to shrink by up to 15 percent.

The drop could undo years of shoreline abuse by allowing water to resume the natural coastal circulation that has become blocked by structures, experts said.

Updated annually, the plan is required by the Great Lakes Water Quality Agreement between the United States and Canada. It is developed by the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, Environment Canada and state and local governments with help from the shipping industry, sports-fishing operators, farm interests, academics and environmental organizations.

The newest update addresses for the first time, when, where and how the shoreline will be reshaped. It says the water temperature of Lake Erie has increased by one degree since 1988 and predicts the lake's level could fall about 34 inches. It also says the other Great Lakes will lose water.

If the projections are accurate, Lake Erie would be reduced by one-sixth by late this century, exposing nearly 2,200 square miles of land and creating marshes, prairies, beaches and forests, researchers said.

Researchers said new islands are appearing in the western basin, where Lake Erie is at its lowest and some reefs are about 2 feet below surface.

"There is now stronger evidence than ever of human-induced climate change," states the report, dated this spring. "Our climate is expected to continue to become warmer. This will result in significant reductions in lake level, exposing new shorelines and creating tremendous opportunities for large-scale restoration of highly valued habitats."

A predicted drop in water levels also has been addressed by the International Joint Commission, an American-Canadian panel that controls water discharges out of Lake Superior and the St. Lawrence River. The commission told scientists at a workshop in February that research showed water levels should begin decreasing before 2050.

"We can try to be positive about climate change, really positive," said Jeff Tyson, a senior fisheries biologist at the Ohio Department of Natural Resources, who helped write a portion of the management plan. "If it continues to be hot, once you lose that meter of water over the top, we get an entirely natural, new shoreline along a lot of the lakefront. If we manage it right, things could look a lot like they did when the first white settlers arrived."

The report was written in an effort to spark thought about what the shoreline could become, said Jan Ciborowski, a professor at the University of Windsor who specializes in aquatic ecology and also helped write the plan.

"There is a lot of opinion among scientists who study the Great Lakes that we need to get the public to start thinking: 'What are things going to look like?'" Ciborowski said.

The plan monitors issues ranging from pollution to invasive species, said Dan O'Riordan, an EPA manager at the Great Lakes National Program Office in Chicago. He said the agency recognizes the views of experts who predict the lake will shrink.

"They've done the math; I would trust the math," he said.


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KEYWORDS: climatechange; erie; globalwarming; greatlakes; lakeerie; mi; michigan; oh; ohio; ont; ontario; putinbay; water
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Needless to say, water levels on the Great Lakes have been steadily rising in recent years.

Additionally, this article does not explain why there are STILL any lakes left in the south where it is warm all year...

1 posted on 07/23/2006 4:44:04 PM PDT by quantim
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To: quantim

The more of these studies that come out, the more BS they're filled with.

Lake Okeechobee has persisted for quite some time, hasn't it?


2 posted on 07/23/2006 4:47:03 PM PDT by Crazieman (The Democratic Party: Culture of Treason)
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To: quantim

If you ask me, the last few summers have been mostly cooler and wetter than normal in my part of Michigan.


3 posted on 07/23/2006 4:50:15 PM PDT by cripplecreek (I'm trying to think but nothing happens)
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To: Crazieman

That's exactly the big lake I was thinking of. This report is getting a lot of local airtime like it's some sort of fact - in other words, time to put your boat up for sale.


4 posted on 07/23/2006 4:51:08 PM PDT by quantim
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To: quantim

This will just provide lots of living space for those along the coastal waters that will be flooded out by rising sea waters!


5 posted on 07/23/2006 4:56:34 PM PDT by geopyg (If the carrot doesn't work, use the stick. Don't wish for peace, pray for Victory.)
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To: quantim

(this is excerpted and not my comment)

The New York Times's headline read, "America in Longest Warm Spell Since 1776; Temperature Line Records a 25-Year Rise." Well, what's so new about that? The Times has been having an historic fit about global warming for years, hasn't it?

Yes, but that particular headline ran in the good gray Times on March 27, 1933 -- 73 years ago. What's more, the Times changed its mind dramatically on the subject 42 years later, in 1975, when it startled its readers on May 21 with "Scientists Ponder Why World's Climate is Changing; A Major Cooling Widely Considered to Be Inevitable."


Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore (R) poses with producer Laurie David during a photocall for U.S. director Davis Guggenheim's film 'An Inconvenient Truth' at the 59th Cannes Film Festival May 20, 2006. REUTERS/John Schults Nor has the Times been the only major periodical to blow hot and cold (if you will forgive me) on the subject of the global climate. On Jan. 2, 1939 Time magazine announced that "Gaffers who claim that winters were harder when they were boys are quite right ... weather men have no doubt that the world at least for the time being is growing warmer." Yet Time scooped The New York Times by nearly a year when, reversing itself, it warned readers on June 24, 1974 that, "Climatological Cassandras are becoming increasingly apprehensive, for the weather aberrations they are studying may be the harbinger of another ice age." Today, of course, Time has changed its mind again and joined the global-warming hysteria. On April 3 this year, it announced that "By Any Measure, Earth is At ... The Tipping Point. The climate is crashing, and global warming is to blame."

The last major attack of hysteria, in the mid-1970s, focused on the peril of global cooling, and was especially severe. Fortune magazine declared in February 1974 that "As for the present cooling trend a number of leading climatologists have concluded that it is very bad news indeed. It is the root cause of a lot of that unpleasant weather around the world and they warn that it carries the potential for human disasters of unprecedented magnitude." Fortune's analysis was so impressive that it actually won a "Science Writing Award" from the American Institute of Physics.

But the prize for sheer terrorizing surely belonged to Lowell Ponte, whose 1976 book "The Cooling" (a predecessor of Al Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth," though from the opposite point of view) asserted that "The cooling has already killed hundreds of thousands of people in poor nations." If countermeasures weren't taken, he warned, it would lead to "world famine, world chaos, and probably world war, and this could all come by the year 2000."

All of the above quotations, and many more, can be found in a wonderful new booklet by R. Warren Anderson and Dan Gainor of the Business & Media Institute, a division of the Media Research Center in Alexandria, Va. (Full disclosure: I am the avuncular and largely indolent board chairman of the latter.) Entitled "Fire and Ice," it quotes alarmist predictions of both global warming and a new ice age dating back to 1895. The authors identify no less than four swings of scientific opinion, with considerable overlapping, from global cooling (1895-1932) to global warming (1929-1969) to global cooling (1954-1976) and now back to global warming (1981 to the present). The booklet can also be read for its sheer entertainment value. (I particularly liked the anecdote about the penguin found in France in 1922, which was widely viewed as an "ice-age harbinger," though wiser heads concluded it had probably escaped from the ship of Antarctic explorer Sir Ernest Shackleton.)

The booklet notes sensibly that "Most scientists do agree that the earth has warmed a little more than a degree in the last 100 years. That doesn't mean scientists concur that mankind is to blame. Even if that were the case, the impact of warming is unclear." And in its wisest paragraph it concludes, "This isn't a question of science. It's a question of whether Americans can trust what the media tell them about science."

But if you're looking for a new career, here's a hint: "Global warming is a good business to be in for government funding. More than 99.5 percent of American climate change funding comes from the government, which spends $4 billion per year on climate change research."





6 posted on 07/23/2006 5:04:49 PM PDT by mirkwood (Gun control isn't about guns. It's about control.)
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To: quantim

What's even more incredible, the article fails to mention that the levels of each and every one of the Great Lakes are "controlled".


7 posted on 07/23/2006 5:06:38 PM PDT by muawiyah (-/sarcasm)
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To: mirkwood

Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore (R) >>>>

Wow they really are loose with facts.


8 posted on 07/23/2006 5:08:36 PM PDT by aft_lizard (born conservative...I chose to be a republican)
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To: quantim
It's been said before, and I'll repeat it here.

Nothing to worry about, the melting glaciers will fill those lakes back up again.

:^)

9 posted on 07/23/2006 5:13:04 PM PDT by Dumpster Baby ("Hope somebody finds me before the rats do .....")
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To: quantim

If you think the lake is dropping now, wait till the falls at Niagara erode back up to lake Erie. About another 20,000 years ought to do it.


10 posted on 07/23/2006 5:34:58 PM PDT by SKI NOW
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To: quantim

Some 30 years ago Lake Erie was declared "dead" so pollued that no fish could ever live in it and millions would die of cancer who got their water supply from the lake. We were told by the doomsayers that the entire Great Lakes would meet the same fate in a few years. Needless to say they were wrong that time too.


11 posted on 07/23/2006 5:38:21 PM PDT by The Great RJ ("Mir wölle bleiwen wat mir sin" or "We want to remain what we are." ..Luxembourg motto)
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To: The Great RJ

Lake Erie does have some problems. The zebra mussels have taken over. Not by global warming, but by the sludge from a russian ship.


12 posted on 07/23/2006 5:52:50 PM PDT by mirkwood (Gun control isn't about guns. It's about control.)
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To: muawiyah
How does an article like this get published? The global warming "Little Chickens" keep telling us that sea levels are rising because of global warming. The lake is dropping. How is the most misinformed Neanderthal reader supposed to find relevance in this article.
13 posted on 07/23/2006 5:56:50 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The only good Mullah is a dead Mullah. The only good Mosque is the one that used to be there.)
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To: quantim
A long time ago, in Geology 101, we were taught the idea of continental rebound. The continent is rising...rebounding still....from the weight of the last continental ice sheet.

Seems reasonable to me....even 40 years later.

14 posted on 07/23/2006 6:01:03 PM PDT by stboz
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To: stboz

The obvious thing is...the lakes will shrink.


15 posted on 07/23/2006 6:03:53 PM PDT by stboz
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To: LoneRangerMassachusetts

The last sentence in #6 says it all.

We get the gubmint we deserve.


16 posted on 07/23/2006 6:05:02 PM PDT by quantim
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To: quantim
I am willing to bet that the hydro electric plants at Niagara Falls are using more water to generate power than in past years, principally because it is cheaper, and cleaner, than fossil fuel...so until it can correlated that increased water consumption, by these plants, has or has not occurred, then this liberal rhetoric, is a form of hysteria
17 posted on 07/23/2006 6:09:33 PM PDT by thinking
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To: quantim

Help, help! Global warming has gotten worse just in the last week!

At the present rate of growth in the severity of global warming predictions, life as we know it should end before the end of Hillary's second term as POTUS.

Oops, wrong. Like the homeless, the problem of global warming will suddenly be under control once the DIMs have retaken control of the govenment. It will be a true miracle.


18 posted on 07/23/2006 6:33:57 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s...you weren't really there.)
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To: stboz; All

http://www.on.ec.gc.ca/greatlakeskids/GreatLakesMovie5.html


20 posted on 07/23/2006 6:50:54 PM PDT by DBrow
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