Basic Evolutionist Time Sandwich

7/23/06 | self

[freedumb2003]

Which line do I stand in to collect my Nobel prize?

I am just trying to win the thread. Looks pretty good so far...

[freedumb2003]

btw: I think I have had three or more "Evolution is not a fact, "just" a theory. So that is 3 that have taken themselves out of the discussion. 2 more and I think I get a toaster oven from Darwin Central.

You would think these folk would learn. I mean PH posts the definition when he pings folks, for goodness' sakes!.

[Coyoteman]

Walter Remine

Isn't he the baraminologist?

Why would anyone pay any attention to anything he said about science?

[Gumlegs]

I am familiar with the material. It has been debunked multiple times on these threads. Why do you guys do that? You get an argument and/or source crushed, so you don't respond and instead post it on the next thread, like the result will be any difference.

It's rather like repeatedly posting ASCII bats and an rant titled, "God Hates Idiots, Too."

[shrinkermd]

You win freedum2003 but what you win is being a master of ad hominems. Still awaiting for the first observed species change.

[js1138]

You have something against BS?

[freedumb2003]

It's rather like repeatedly posting ASCII bats and an rant titled, "God Hates Idiots, Too."

LOL! Sounds like the soundtrack to a standard CREVO thread after us who understand science show up and interrupt the echo chamber.

[js1138]

What about evolution would cause you to expect to observe a species change?

[Conservative Texan Mom]

"Which is more likely? Evolution by natural selection or an invisible man in the sky directing microbiology?"

Neither

[shrinkermd]

According to your theory single cell life began in a primordial soup that led to multicell organisms and a host of phyla and species right up to man.

Species changes are the sine qua non of environmentalism. Without them you have to way to explain going from one cell to mankind.

[js1138]

But what about evolution would cause you to expect to observe a species change?

[GoLightly]

DNA is currently telling the whole story of Evolution

Quite a claim. Mind if I quote you? "who started at the end point and then drew his lines in reverse, then plotted the points. Yes, I realize I'm being over simplistic by quoting you.

Can't wait to see the migration maps for some plants & critters. Continental drift models against frog emergence dating leaves me wondering about the migratory habits of frogs. Thus far, looks like the rock people have veto power over the critter people. Birds crapping out eggs only take me so far.

When I asked myself the migration question about fresh water fish, I happened upon a page at a site that's been commonly used by people on the ToE side in the debates here. The piece I found was written by a Wisconsin biologist & she was talking about the populations of blue gills in a lot of local lakes. We're talking an area that was under a glacier during the last ice age... Tribes in the area operate huge game fish hatcheries. Think I should tell her or should I assume she would already know, being an expert in the field 'n all?

[PatrickHenry]

The Clown Prince of Astrophysics .

[bondserv]

What would you expect form the clown prince of astrophysics?

You can be mean when you don't want to be!

[Senator Bedfellow]

5? 5 is nowhere near the toaster, sorry - for 5, you get the commemorative DC vinyl keychain. Toaster doesn't come until 50. The record for "it's just a theory!" is 472 instances on a single thread - beat that, and you win the all-expenses-paid vacation to the DC resort in the Galapagos :)

[freedumb2003]

I didn't say the whole story has been told, but that it is being told ("telling").

You can start by looking at: http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/index.php?command=view&id=2177&program=CSC%20-%20Scientific%20Research%20and%20Scholarship%20-%20Science

One of hundreds of peer-reviewed articles showingf how DNA is confirming more aspects of TToE and filling in additional information.

You think God just shoved a bunch of nearly identical DBA in chimpanzees and humans?

http://www.genome.org/cgi/content/abstract/16/2/173

http://www.nature.com/nbt/journal/v21/n10/full/nbt869.html

I don't make statements out of the blue, nor do I make "but it seems to me" statements when I am dealing in area which I am familiar with yet not an expert. I know I what I am saying is scientifically correct before I post.

Every CR/Ider thinks they are an expert on TToE just because they read Genesis.

[freedumb2003]

5, you get the commemorative DC vinyl keychain. Toaster doesn't come until 50... the record for "it's just a theory!" is 472 instances on a single thread - beat that, and you win the all-expenses-paid vacation to the DC resort in the Galapagos

*sigh* and I bet duplicates don't count...

[Gumlegs]

Every CR/Ider thinks they are an expert on TToE just because they read Genesis.

Don't forget the contributions of Jack Chick.

[freedumb2003]

I thought the Gravity story was going to include Thetans and Xenu...

[ToryHeartland]

Finally, Francis Crick, discover of DNA and a Nobel Prize winner said "the probability of life originating at random is so utterly miniscule so as to make it absurd."

Seriously wrong. You have made a serious error with the attribution of this quote--but let me give you the benefit of the doubt and allow you an opportunity to correct the quotation and give a source. I don't wish needlessly to embarrass you; but I would like to see this egregious misattribution corrected.

You have been misled by one of a number of Creationist websites that places as fast and loose with quotations as Dan Rather.