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State Can't Ban Living Together, Judge Rules
ClickonDetroit ^ | July 20, 2006 | AP

Posted on 07/23/2006 4:57:08 AM PDT by ShadowDancer

State Can't Ban Living Together, Judge Rules

POSTED: 1:51 pm EDT July 20, 2006

RALEIGH, N.C. -- A judge says North Carolina's 201-year-old law barring unmarried couples from living together is unconstitutional.

The state chapter of the American Civil Liberties Union brought a lawsuit challenging the law on behalf of former Pender County sheriff's dispatcher Deborah Hobbs.

Hobbs lived with her boyfriend and quit her job in 2004 after Sheriff Carson Smith demanded she marry her boyfriend or move out if she wanted to work for him.

State Superior Court Judge Benjamin Alford issued the ruling Wednesday, citing a 2003 U.S. Supreme Court case which struck down a Texas sodomy law.

Jennifer Rudinger of the ACLU of North Carolina said that decision stands for the idea that the government has no business regulating relationships between two consenting adults in the privacy of their own home.

A spokeswoman for State Attorney General Roy Cooper said lawyers were reviewing the decision and there's been no decision yet on whether to file an appeal.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: churchandstate; govwatch; judiciary; ruling; victory4fornication; victory4sluts; victory4vice
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To: ShadowDancer

Out of the boardroom, and into the bedroom. Gotta love it.


21 posted on 07/23/2006 6:38:24 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: HawaiianGecko; Junior; pyx
I agree with Junior in post #6 (and with pyx's #15):

A right is something that, when exercised, puts no onus or obligation on another person.

Someone who wants to belong to a private group that clearly doesn't want them looks like a masochist to me. But I suppose they think they're sacrificing themselves for the greater good - that is, the abolition of private property.
22 posted on 07/23/2006 6:38:53 AM PDT by clyde asbury (Andante con moto)
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To: ShadowDancer
201-year-old law"

201 years!!!!

This law went unnoticed or challenged for 201 years!!!!

What kind of a people would have created a law like that?

Those people 201 years ago knew absolutly nothing about law and the Constitution.

I didn't realize that all of the the framers of the Constitution were all dead 14 years after the signing of said document.

Surely had they been alive at the time of this law, they would have not allowed it to exist.

Or if they were alive, they were the most ignorant represenatives the people have ever known.

23 posted on 07/23/2006 6:48:04 AM PDT by uptoolate (Eph 6:24)
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To: gunsofaugust

Where's that in the ten commandments?

But the bottom line, is you can still be forgiven - as we are all sinners - and continue to sin.


24 posted on 07/23/2006 7:01:36 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: uptoolate

So what's you answer to slavery Mr. needs some sleep?


25 posted on 07/23/2006 7:02:53 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: ShadowDancer
Terra and I are still denied 1,049 federal rights automatically granted to heterosexual, married couples.

Here's your first clue ...

26 posted on 07/23/2006 7:11:59 AM PDT by mpoulin
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To: uptoolate
This law went unnoticed or challenged for 201 years!!!!

North Carolina's (1805) 201 year law was predated by the 1798 Calder v. Bull Supreme Court ruling that established that the USSC has jurisdiction to rule state laws unconstitutional.

27 posted on 07/23/2006 7:20:04 AM PDT by elli1
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To: uptoolate
Don't you understand that the men who wrote and ratified the Constitution did not know what they meant. The states that agreed to live under the Constitution did not know what they agreed to.

In fact, nobody knew anything for over 200 years. It took the ACLU and other radical liberals to use a judge to revise the Constitution to agree with the judicial activists of the last 50 years of illegal Constitutional Revision.

Free Republic humanists love the ACLU rulings that ignore 200 years of legal history and reduce our Constitutional Republic to an Oligarchy to achieve liberal utopian goals.

28 posted on 07/23/2006 7:22:52 AM PDT by OriginalIntent (Undo the ACLU's revison of the Constitution. If you agree with the ACLU revisions, you are a liberal)
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To: gunsofaugust

It's not only Islamists that need to be dragged into the 21st century.


29 posted on 07/23/2006 8:09:28 AM PDT by Bob J (RIGHTALK.com...a conservative alternative to NPR!)
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To: ShadowDancer

Deborah Hobbs, age 40.

30 posted on 07/23/2006 8:48:45 AM PDT by rawhide
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To: Jacquerie

Well, there is another venerable tradition, traceable to Jefferson and probably beyond: the government should learn to say "none of my business!", and say it loudly and often.


31 posted on 07/23/2006 9:06:25 AM PDT by GSlob
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To: clyde asbury
Free association applies in both directions, for the individual and for the group.

Indeed.

32 posted on 07/23/2006 9:17:28 AM PDT by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: GSlob; OriginalIntent; uptoolate
Well, there is another venerable tradition, traceable to Jefferson and probably beyond: the government should learn to say "none of my business!", and say it loudly and often.

The law was 201 years old. It was unconstitutional the whole time?

By the way, Jefferson and the venerable founders had nothing to do with or say about state law. For instance, without violating the Constitution, states were collecting taxes on behalf of churches well into the 19th century.

Bad law in your opinion or some black robe is not necessarily unconstitutional.

33 posted on 07/23/2006 9:21:23 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Democrats soil institutions.)
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To: ml/nj
And he has just discovered it! For 201 years North Carolina must have had stupid judges.

Maybe it wasn't enforced during this time. A lot of laws, including Georgia's former sodomy law, were only observed in the breech.

34 posted on 07/23/2006 9:23:07 AM PDT by Junior (Identical fecal matter, alternate diurnal period)
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To: gunsofaugust
Filty people support filthy people, and declare it a victory for virtue, as in godless hedonism.

Yeah, all those "filthy" young adult roommates and college students who live together fulfilling libertine fantasies. Never mind the economic equation of it, that saving money on bills, or that single black women with kids pooling their resources together because their man has left them, is in prison, or shot dead -- people should just automatically marry at the age of 18 and buy that dream home and live happily ever after.

You holier-than-thou, my-God-is-better-than-your-God, you're-going-to-Hell types are slightly less annoying than liberal zealots who want to regulate what we smoke and eat.

35 posted on 07/23/2006 9:30:18 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (404 Page Error Found)
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To: gunsofaugust
The Church has always taught that sex that is not within the bounds of marriage, is fornication.

So let God be the judge of them then, not you or the state.

36 posted on 07/23/2006 9:31:56 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (404 Page Error Found)
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To: gunsofaugust
I am assuming "living together" was meant in terms of living in fornication. Not just living under the same roof in celibacy.

Do you really want the government investigating, and punishing, the distinction?

38 posted on 07/23/2006 10:07:54 AM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: ShadowDancer

I don't mind it being legal. What I want is for it to be legal for a landlord to refuse to rent to unmarried couples.


39 posted on 07/23/2006 10:36:19 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT
What I want is for it to be legal for a landlord to refuse to rent to unmarried couples.

Now you're talking.
40 posted on 07/23/2006 11:20:06 AM PDT by clyde asbury (Andante con moto)
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