Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

CONGRESSIONAL REPUBLICANS MULL IMMIGRATION SELLOUT
Chris Adamo.com ^ | July 19, 2006 | Chris Adamo

Posted on 07/23/2006 4:31:48 AM PDT by BerlinStrausbaugh

In a July 3 article on Townhall, columnist Michael Barone laments the possibility that Congress may not pass any immigration “reform” legislation this year. However, he pins some hope on a proposal being advocated by Representative Mike Pence (R.-IN).

Ostensibly, the Pence proposal would incorporate the “best” of both worlds, including provisions from both the Senate’s recently passed guest worker/amnesty bill, along with the House version that focuses on immigration enforcement and border security.

Unfortunately, the Pence bill would ultimately constitute no less a “sellout” on immigration than that attempted by the Senate, albeit this effort would be spaced out over a few years, which might be enough time to diffuse public outrage. Far from truly dealing with the immigration crisis, it represents the deepest desires of those who have no real intention of admitting the true nature of the problem. Thus it cannot possibly offer a real solution.

Hardly a matter of personal animus towards people of a different ethnicity, Americans are deeply alarmed over the immigration issue as it poses a threat to their country’s future. In order to comprehend the continued danger it represents, it is first necessary to analyze the present state of immigration and its adverse effects.

Illegal immigrants are moving into the country in hordes, taking jobs at substandard wages and with few or no benefits (thus suppressing the wage base for all working class Americans), and making up the difference by disproportionately accessing and exploiting the nation’s social “safety net.”

In essence, employers increase profit margins by shirking such expenses, compelling honest taxpaying citizens to pick up the tab. Moreover, the ravages of “multiculturalism,” along with an increasingly “nationalistic” and belligerent philosophy among the aliens, make it very unlikely that this growing subculture will ever assimilate into “mainstream America.” Thus the nation faces eventual “Balkanization.”

The Pence plan would do nothing whatsoever to address these problems. Instead, it would require a few token gestures by the illegal invaders, such as a brief return trip home for symbolic processing through a so-called “Ellis Island Center,” after which the individual could then return to the United States to take up business as usual.

Nor should anyone fall for the incessantly repeated mantra that these “Ellis Island Centers” could somehow better address the situation simply by being privately run. The only “virtue” that could be considered a universal advantage of private industry over government is in the area of efficiency.

What “efficiency” means is that profit margins of these centers, must undoubtedly directly result from their ability to rubber-stamp as many applicants as possible. Therefore, they would have little incentive to thoroughly screen or possibly reject any who come through their doors. And certainly, nobody expects the government to enforce such policy. It has not done so thus far.

Ultimately this entire process would amount to a meaningless “fig leaf” being applied to the problem. Yet in the minds of typical bureaucrats, the problem is thereafter “solved” and hence we can all rest easy.

This “fix” stands as grim proof that, outside of a few courageous stalwarts such as Congressman Tom Tancredo (R.-CO), Washington has no intention of addressing the problem. A few obvious questions about the present strategy lay the facts bare.

First, why does the Senate summarily reject any proposal that does not include a “guest worker/amnesty” provision?

The disturbing answer is simply that this is the only agenda item of any immigration “reform” that the Senate has any intention of ever implementing. “Border control” is nowhere on the radar screen among Senators, and if included in any bill it is assured to be denied funding, delayed, and otherwise neutralized in perpetuity.

The Pence proposal ostensibly offers “border control” as its initial focus, followed in two years by the guest worker/amnesty provisions. Yet such a strategy presumes that the borders will be secure in two years. Undoubtedly, this approach is a backdoor avoidance of the whole issue of “border control,” since no matter what condition the border is in at the end of two years, the guest worker/amnesty portion will proceed on schedule.

If Pence truly believed in his proposal as a workable solution, why does he not offer it in two separate bills? The Congress could conceivably pass true border control measures, concurrently vowing to craft and pass “guest worker” legislation once the borders are obviously under control and the actual circumstances of such a follow-up can be properly assessed.

In reality, the very nature of any legitimate “guest worker/amnesty” program would be completely at odds with unscrupulous business owners who thrive on a compliant “underclass.” The “needs” of business for immigrant workers will only be met by an unabated influx of illegals. So from their perspective, the borders cannot be closed.

As Michael Barone points out, until only recently, Congressional Republicans had resolutely refused to consider any measure containing a guest worker/amnesty proposal. But that may be changing. Utah Representative Chris Cannon, despite being an open borders advocate, recently won his primary contest against a staunch border control opponent.

As a result, some Republicans in the Congress believe they may have a bit more room to waffle on this issue without reaping fatal political repercussions. In truth, their very willingness to reconsider such legislation proves that they were never serious about protecting the integrity and sovereignty of the nation in the first place.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 109th; 1ingnorantpost; aliens; allwasteoftime; blogpimping; blogpimps; conservativebashing; deaniac; dishonesty; dncstoodge; employerswhocheat; every1hasablog; givemecheaplabornow; gop; gulliblefreepers; hateeveryone; howarddean; illegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; immigrationlist; invaders; knownothing; liberalism; lies; moveonorgclown; nutcases; racism; republicanwafflers; stopthepimping; stupity; troll; trollsonparade; whiners; zot; zotmeintonextweek; zottedtroll
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 101-105 next last
...some Republicans in the Congress believe they may have a bit more room to waffle on this issue without reaping fatal political repercussions.

They continue to take our support for granted.

No war on terror unless we seal our borders. We spend billions to secure Iraq, but little to guarantee our national security breaches due to porous borders.

1 posted on 07/23/2006 4:31:50 AM PDT by BerlinStrausbaugh
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: BerlinStrausbaugh

Teaching Math In 1960:
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is 4/5
of the price. What is his profit?

Teaching Math In 1970:
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is 4/5
of the price, or $80. What is his profit?

Teaching Math In 1980:
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is
$80. Did he make a profit?

Teaching Math In 1990:
A logger sells a truckload of lumber for $100. His cost of production is $80
and his profit is $20. Your assignment: Underline the number 20.

Teaching Math In 2000:
A logger cuts down a beautiful forest because he is selfish and
inconsiderate and cares nothing for the habitat of animals or the
preservation of our woodlands. He does this so he can make a profit of $20.
What do you think of this way of making a living? Topic for class
participation after answering the question: How did the birds and squirrels
feel as the logger cut down their homes? (There are no wrong answers.)

Teaching Math In 2010:
Un hachero vende una carretada de madera para $100. El costo de la
producción es $80 .....


2 posted on 07/23/2006 4:40:23 AM PDT by mirkwood (Gun control isn't about guns. It's about control.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BerlinStrausbaugh
They continue to take our support for granted.

Yep - and it will backfire in November. Blanket amnesty will ruin this country, and it will ruin the chances that Republicans might keep the house. I will NOT vote for anybody that supports this, regardless of the whining of others.

3 posted on 07/23/2006 4:44:21 AM PDT by meyer (A vote for amnesty is a vote against America.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mirkwood
A keeper.

Excellent!

4 posted on 07/23/2006 4:47:11 AM PDT by BerlinStrausbaugh (If life was fair, Elvis would be alive and all the impersonators would be dead.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: BerlinStrausbaugh

Fred Barnes and Mort Kondrake tried to resussitate the dead "comprehensive immnigration" Senate bill on their show yesterday. Like Frankenstein, we will have to kill this monster again and again, apparently. My guess is that they will try to sneak the Pence "compromise" through in the dead of night before the Nov. elections. Every House member needs to know that they will carry this albatross around their necks to the ballot box if they fall for this sell-out to the Senate.


5 posted on 07/23/2006 4:50:33 AM PDT by kittymyrib
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BerlinStrausbaugh

the Pence bill tells me Pence has Presidential aspirations...pass that sucker and the corporate moneybags open wide...


6 posted on 07/23/2006 4:57:36 AM PDT by mo
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: kittymyrib
Like Frankenstein, we will have to kill this monster again and again...

Or, like Dracula, a stake through the heart!

Our elected officials are such weak, stupid, self-serving traitors to their constituents.

7 posted on 07/23/2006 4:59:20 AM PDT by BerlinStrausbaugh (If life was fair, Elvis would be alive and all the impersonators would be dead.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: BerlinStrausbaugh
If Speaker Hastert wasn't just bloviating, any bill that is a panacea may not pass. We just have to scrutinize any compromises and 'back room deals' and 3AM votes.

Per Hastert's visit to the border this weekend:

Hastert: 'Zero' entry by migrants -- Group of mostly GOP lawmakers tours border
  Posted by axes_of_weezles
On News/Activism 07/22/2006 12:00:16 PM CDT · 20 replies · 272+ views


ARIZONA DAILY STAR, Tucson, Arizona ^ | 22 July 2006 | Josh Brodesky
Tucson Region Hastert: 'Zero' entry by migrants Group of mostly GOP lawmakers tours border By Josh Brodesky ARIZONA DAILY STAR Tucson, Arizona | Published: 07.22.2006 advertisement NOGALES, Ariz. — Saying there needed to be "zero penetration" into the United States by illegal entrants, House Speaker Dennis Hastert got a look Friday at the challenges faced by those trying to secure the southern border. The Illinois Republican and a handful of other lawmakers, including Republican Rep. Jim Kolbe, from Southern Arizona, are visiting the border with Mexico. On Friday, the group took a daylong tour in Arizona, including an afternoon...

8 posted on 07/23/2006 5:04:43 AM PDT by TomGuy
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BerlinStrausbaugh
Illegal immigrants are moving into the country in hordes, taking jobs at substandard wages and with few or no benefits (thus suppressing the wage base for all working class Americans), and making up the difference by disproportionately accessing and exploiting the nation’s social “safety net.”

Until the anti-immigration folks come to grips that illegal immigration is not all bad, they are going nowhere. Do you really think New Orleans can be cleaned up and rebuilt without Mexican labor? Do you really think there are millions of Americans dying to take the jobs that Mexicans do? Certainly there are a handful, but the lack of labor force in construction and food industry has been a huge issue for decades, and without Mexican labor there would be a very serious shortage of labor. Pence's plan may not be ideal, but it is a plan that recognizes reality. Illegals are more important to our country than the anti-immigration people want to beleive.

9 posted on 07/23/2006 5:05:13 AM PDT by Always Right
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: BerlinStrausbaugh

In before the open border lobby. This article is everything they hate. It is critical of Pence and mentions Tancredo.

They will be along shortly, whining as usual.


10 posted on 07/23/2006 5:08:45 AM PDT by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Always Right

Obeying our laws and protecting our borders are way more important than a cheap labor source for criminal employers.


11 posted on 07/23/2006 5:11:16 AM PDT by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Always Right

Ruh roh, be prepared to be "weinered(savaged)" for your heresey, of bringing a concept called reality into an immigration thread.


12 posted on 07/23/2006 5:12:27 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Always Right

Agreed, illegal immigration is not all bad, just bad in net. A few people benefit by it while the vast majority of us lose. Mexico uses its army to control its southern border. We should do the same.


13 posted on 07/23/2006 5:13:30 AM PDT by RKV ( He who has the guns, makes the rules.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: BerlinStrausbaugh
"taking jobs at substandard wages and with few or no benefits (thus suppressing the wage base for all working class Americans)"

In Massachusetts recently they were found to comprise one-third of the workers on a supposedly prevailing wage federally funded construction project; hardly substandard wages. There should be a few corporate officers in jail soon, in my opinion.

14 posted on 07/23/2006 5:13:35 AM PDT by Jimnorwellwarren
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Dane

Here is some reality you OBL's can't grasp: A nuke coming across our open borders. I suppose the illegals can clean up that mess too.


15 posted on 07/23/2006 5:15:35 AM PDT by Trteamer ( (Eat Meat, Wear Fur, Own Guns, FReep Leftists, Drive an SUV, Drill A.N.W.R., Drill the Gulf, Vote)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Jimnorwellwarren
In Massachusetts recently they were found to comprise one-third of the workers on a supposedly prevailing wage federally funded construction project; hardly substandard wages. There should be a few corporate officers in jail soon, in my opinion.

Oh that's right union graft had nothing to do with the big dig disaster in Boston.(rolling eyes)

16 posted on 07/23/2006 5:17:13 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: Always Right
Until the anti-immigration folks come to grips that illegal immigration is not all bad, they are going nowhere.

Shame on you. It is downright evil to steal jobs and taxes from Americans to support a few businessmen.

17 posted on 07/23/2006 5:18:11 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: Trteamer
Here is some reality you OBL's can't grasp: A nuke coming across our open borders. I suppose the illegals can clean up that mess too.

JMO, the bigger threat comes from abdul living in the islamic enclaves of Toronto, rather than Christian Jose looking for a job putting up drywall in New Orleans.

18 posted on 07/23/2006 5:20:36 AM PDT by Dane ("Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall" Ronald Reagan, 1987)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: TomGuy
... Group of mostly GOP lawmakers tours border...

America would be better off if most of them just kept walking south.

19 posted on 07/23/2006 5:20:51 AM PDT by BerlinStrausbaugh (If life was fair, Elvis would be alive and all the impersonators would be dead.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: BerlinStrausbaugh

Hi all,
It's just an idea.


A New USA Political Party - The Pim Fortuyn List



(Version 0.11)


Proposed Policy Platforms and raison d'etre for a new
USA Political Party named in honor of the Dutch martyr
Pim Fortuyn.


Preamble


Due to the fact that the current political parties have not gotten their minds around the post 9/11 reality, have not developed reasonable policies, extremely simple in some cases, to address the War the Free Peoples of the West have found themselves in the midst of, we propose the creation of a new political party named after the Dutch martyr Pim Fortuyn.

In short, we fear that the Democrats won't fight, while the Repblicans won't spend.



Plank 1.


We will request Congress to formally declare War on the enemies of the United States and Western Civilization. These enemies will be specified as Islamofascism, Islamic Terrorism, and Islamic Supremacism. Included will be the supporters of such ideologies, those who glorify the acts of violence committed by any Islamo-fascists, and all those who give aid and comfort in any form to any of the above.


Plank 2.


Allies of the USA in this War will be declared, and will enjoy friendly relations and cooperation. Those Nations suspected of playing both sides of the fence will be declared Waffler Nations, and will be dealt with carefully. Enemy Nations will be declared as such.

Examples of Waffler Nations are Saudi Arabia and Pakistan. Care will be taken to limit the influence Waffler Nations have on critical assets, Universities, think tanks, corporate shares and other items of value. Those organizations taking funds originating from Waffler
Nations will have to declare themselves Agents of such Nations.




Plank 3.


The entire energies of the Nation and its Allies will be focused on the military, economic and ideological aspects of the fight against Islamofascism, Islamic Terrorism and Islamic Supremacism.

As all Wars cost money, the Party will endeavour to roll back the tax decreases enacted since 9/11/01. This is done on the grounds that any tax decreases since the USA firmly understood it was at war are unseemly, and inexplicable to history.



Plank 4.


As President Bush II declared the USA "addicted" to oil, much of which originates in "unstable parts of the world", where many countries supply or permit to be supplied, funding to the terrorist enemy and their supporters, attention will be paid to strategies to undo such reliance on oil. We note that the oil problem is partially an energy crisis, but more centrally a transportation fuel crisis.

Plank 4a.


As an example of new policy, a gasoline rationing system will be emplaced whereby each passengar car, pickup truck, stationwagon and SUV will be off the road one day per week. The day will be chosen by the vehicle owner and represented by a colored sticker on the windshield. It is expected that most of the days chosen will be weekend days, where people are expected to congregate for community activities, and can more easily organize joint transportation. Others might find weekdays more convemient for this program.

No such limitation will apply to flex-fuel vehicles running on E85 ethanol-gasoline blend. The same holds for biodiesel.

This will give most Americans a chance to contribute to the sacrifices needed for the successful conduct of the War.


Plank 4b.


As a further policy example, we will have the US Treasury fund the fitting of all new passenger cars produced in America with a flex-fuel gas tank and engine. This will be done for two years.

The rational for this is that sometimes it takes the government to develop new markets, e.g. 30 year market for mortgages. The funds will come from the roll-back of taxes mentioned above.


Plank 4c.


The Party notes that complete energy independence of the Nation may be difficult to obtain. It is noted that this is an excessive condition. It may be sufficent to work to expand ethanol production from tropical parts of the world that can increase sugarcane acreage.

Importation of ethanol from countries that do not export Islamic terrorism will help national security, add to international trade flows, and enrich the people of developing nations. These latter nations may themselves become completely free of the need to import transportation fuels, a positive result in and of itself.


Plank 4d.


We will support the immediate opening up of oil drilling in Alaska, off the coast of Florida, and all other potential areas. We will ask oil companies and sympathetic Carribean countries to consider exploration off their shores.

The price of opening up of Alaska will be that a special tax will be applied per barrel lifted from these new oil fields, to fund the creation of tourist sites and camps in various parts of Alaska. This is so that the American people can more easily visit and experience the natural bounty of our northernmost State.

We will override any opposition to the creation of wind farms off the coast on the grounds of the National energy emergency implicit in the above discussion.


Plank 4e.


We will investigate coal-to-oil technology such as that developed by SASOL of South Africa. This technology was announced as capable of turning coal into oil at USD 13 per barrel. We will import such technology if fould to be feasable.

We will investigate Canadian tar sands production to discover what, if any technologies, may be used to exploit similar geological formations in the Unites States.


Plank 4f.


The Party will ask Congress to pass a tax to keep the price of any oil imported from the Persian Gulf or North Africa at least USD 50 per barrel. A similar tax will be passed for natural gas imports from these two areas. This will motivate US exploration companies to look in other areas of the World for resources.



Plank 5.


The Borders of the United States shall be fully sealed. The Southern Border shall be fully fenced and guarded. The Border Patrol will be increased in size initially to 30,000, and will be increased further, if deemed necessary for the security of these United States.



Plank 6.


The COCOM science and technology embargo against the Communist World during the Cold War shall be reinstituted by the USA and any willing allies, but this time against Islamofascist countries and any suspected supporters of such totalitarianism. Friendly countries of the formerly Communist world will be fully exempt from COCOM export technology restrictions.



Plank 7.


Immigration must be brought under strict limitations and control. Current legal immigration of 1,000,000 people annualy will be cut significantly. Illegal immigrants will be repatriated to their home countries unless exceptional circumstances exist. No immigration from Enemy or Waffler States is to be permitted.

Alternate figures on unemployment such as published for other developed countries will be publicly announced. In particular, inclusion of the number of people searching for work for more than 6 months, or who are willing to work but have given up collecting rejection notices, will be included in all unemployment figures.


More at magooeys-thoughts.blogspot.com. Your feedback welcome.

Magooey


20 posted on 07/23/2006 5:22:27 AM PDT by magooey (stop the bs, fight the war!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-80 ... 101-105 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson