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7/21 Middle East Live Thread
Middle East Live Thread ^ | 7/21/06 | me

Posted on 07/20/2006 10:33:33 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

An Israeli soldier scouts the area near the Israel-Lebanon border, July 20, 2006.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; hezbollah; hezbullies; hezzians; hezzies; hizballah; hizbullah; iran; islam; israel; jihad; lebanon; middleeast; muhammadsminions; syria; terrorism; terrorists; ww3
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To: prairiebreeze

Oh, he didn't mean Hezzie, he was only talking to Izzie.


921 posted on 07/21/2006 10:44:19 AM PDT by ichabod1 (I have to take a shower.)
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To: bwteim

The problem is Kofi's replacement will be no better - France, Russia, China, and the various "3rd world" despots will not allow the US to see that the UN has an effective and competent Secretary General who is not a butt-boy for the world's worst regimes........ let's face it, the USA does not choose the Secy. General (even if our own Demagogues would allow us to choose someone like Bolton) and there cannot be a Secy. General who would be any better than Kofi Annan - everything is aligned so that another 3rd world socialist weasel bureaucrat will be selected no matter what we might want.


922 posted on 07/21/2006 10:44:38 AM PDT by Enchante (Democrats: Trust Nancy Pelosi to Win the War on Terror!! (gag))
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To: debg

I had closed captioning on my TV..which is slower than the speaker..

When Fox changed to Condi..there was a sentence on the TV saying ...meeting with Abbas." So...I think before Fox changed..she mentioned a meeting with Abbas, but no time or place of course.

Anyone who watched the VERY beginning might have that information.


923 posted on 07/21/2006 10:45:18 AM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((((( ISRAEL)))))))))))))
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To: sageb1

There's no way that an American, or probably even a European will be elected to Kofi's job.


924 posted on 07/21/2006 10:45:21 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Enchante
20:43 Rice: Can`t have situation where south Lebanon is haven for groups firing at Israel (CNN)
925 posted on 07/21/2006 10:45:57 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Enchante

Rice taking questions from press. Reporter is asking if theere is a political future for Hezbollah.


926 posted on 07/21/2006 10:46:14 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: Miss Marple

Whiney question, "why did you choose now to go?"

Rice denies probably use of US ground forces.


927 posted on 07/21/2006 10:47:16 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (I am a proud friend of Israel.)
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To: Miss Marple

20:45 Rice: There is a political solution to stop the violence and we have to pursue it (CNN) --- [replace the entire government of Lebanon?]


928 posted on 07/21/2006 10:47:20 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Txsleuth

Fox came into the middle of the sentence and picked up when she said "I will also be going to Rome."


929 posted on 07/21/2006 10:47:31 AM PDT by debg
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To: prairiebreeze

20:45 Rice: There is a political solution to stop the violence and we have to pursue it (CNN)
20:43 Rice: Can`t have situation where S. Lebanon is haven for groups firing at Israel (CNN)
20:42 Rice: Syria knows what it needs to do, Hezbollah is source of problem (CNN)
20:42 Rice: In past days, we have helped 10,000 Americans to reach safety (CNN)
20:40 Rice: U.S. planning humanitarian aid for Lebanon (CNN)
20:39 Rice: We do seek to end current violence, but also address its roots (CNN)


930 posted on 07/21/2006 10:47:58 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: sageb1

YEah, but he's been DYING to find a way to do it on the expense account like in the old days. Oh, and to have somebody else keep track of it.


931 posted on 07/21/2006 10:47:58 AM PDT by ichabod1 (I have to take a shower.)
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To: prairiebreeze

WHOA...Condi just ZINGED Maddie Albright...

"yes, I could have gone over right away and stated "SHUTTLING"...but where would I shuttle to..and with?"

LOL...Maddie Albright always calling for "shuttle diplomacy"...


932 posted on 07/21/2006 10:48:31 AM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((((( ISRAEL)))))))))))))
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To: prairiebreeze
LOL! She said there was no point in going until you have a plan.

She is doing a very good job, by the way.

"I have no interest in diplomacy for the sake of returning to the status quo."

933 posted on 07/21/2006 10:48:44 AM PDT by Miss Marple (Lord, please look after Mozart Lover's and Jemian's sons and keep them strong.)
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To: AdmSmith

Thanks for the ping.

Without going into detail, Stratfor paints a gloomy picture, similar to the one they painted two weeks into OEF.

I think my primary disagreement comes from the claim that reducing Hezbollah's bunkers need be costly. Cordesman has indicated some developments which can mitigate a good part of the associated costs. Al Qaeda thought Tora Bora was safe, too.

I won't rule out a continuous thrust into the Bekaa, but I'm not counting on it either. My guess will be that command elements will confer with political leadership after the area south of the Litani is secured and assess the situation from that view.

The wildcards are of course, Syria and Iran. Key points in their decision making process will occur when general awareness permeates leadership circles that a ground offensive has begun, when Hezbollah is forced out of S. Lebanon, if and when an offensive into the Bekaa begins, and if and when Hezbollah is defeated in the Bekaa. Iran in particular has explicitly stated that they will attack Israeli and US interests should Hezbollah face defeat, and the coming events will judge the credibility of those claims.



934 posted on 07/21/2006 10:48:47 AM PDT by jeffers
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To: ichabod1
Have you ever heard the commercial for AMEIGO, language course??

LOL in the old one the woman speaking was doing it so poorly in both English and Spanish than they voice over her narration.

935 posted on 07/21/2006 10:49:46 AM PDT by mware (Americans in armchairs doing the job of the media.)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
There's no way that an American, or probably even a European will be elected to Kofi's job.

Not even "Global" Bill Clinton? You don't think the 3rd worlders would see him as a chance to defang America?

936 posted on 07/21/2006 10:50:07 AM PDT by OB1kNOb (This is no time for bleeding hearts, pacifists, and appeasers to prevail in free world opinion.)
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To: jeffers

All along they have been the wildcards.


937 posted on 07/21/2006 10:50:12 AM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Fitzcarraldo

Disinformation?


938 posted on 07/21/2006 10:50:17 AM PDT by Txsleuth ((((((((((( ISRAEL)))))))))))))
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To: BurbankKarl
"...some Arab leaders would not permit the installation of the air raid siren apparatus since it also sounds on Holocaust Remembrance Day and Memorial Day for fallen soldiers. Since it is a package deal, the Arab leaders opted not to have the siren installed."

Amazing...... they rejected life-saving measures for their city because they would then have to notice Holocaust Remembrance Day and the Memorial Day for fallen soldiers...... now these scumbags want to "blame the Jews" for their own bigoted malfeasance because two of their local children are dead, killed by HEZBOLLAH - and the loathsome imam calls for the Hezbo-Nazis to rule all over the region. Everything is the fault of the Jews, even when it's Muslims killing Muslims, and Muslims refusing life-saving safety measures such as the sirens. What depravity!!
939 posted on 07/21/2006 10:50:22 AM PDT by Enchante (Democrats: Trust Nancy Pelosi to Win the War on Terror!! (gag))
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To: jeffers

Rice: Q: Lebanon has made little progress enforcing 1559..A: help to create the framework to end violence, deploy Lebanon forces southward "with international assistance"...


940 posted on 07/21/2006 10:50:33 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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