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Condi backed down after Bush backed Olmert plan
World Tribune ^ | Wednesday July 19, 2006

Posted on 07/20/2006 2:49:24 PM PDT by BradtotheBone

WASHINGTON — Officials said the Bush administration, after initial hesitation, has determined that the Israeli military campaign against Hizbullah was vital in the effort to reduce the threat from Iran and Syria in the Middle East. They said the administration would not pressure Israel to agree to an immediate ceasefire.

Officials said Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice initially sought to halt Israel's massive retaliation against Hizbullah, which abducted two Israeli soldiers on July 12. They said Ms. Rice, in twice-a-day phone calls, pressed Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert to significantly reduce the operation to prevent casualties and maintain the Lebanese government.

"Olmert politely and respectfully told Condi that the operation must continue until the rocket attacks end and the Israeli soldiers are released," another official said. "The issue eventually came to the president and Condi backed off."

On Tuesday, President George Bush displayed his greatest support yet for the Israeli war. Bush said Iran and Syria were behind Hizbullah rocket attacks as part of Teheran's campaign to undermine the West. On July 15, Bush's national security adviser said the U.S. intelligence community did not have evidence of Iranian or Syrian involvement. "It is now clear for all to see that there are terrorist elements who want to destroy our democratic friends and allies, and the world must work to prevent them from doing so," Bush said.

Officials said the administration has been pressed by Congress and conservative circles to support Israel during its war against Hizbullah. On Tuesday, the Senate passed a resolution that held Syria and Iran responsible for the "acts of aggression carried out by Hizbullah and Hamas against Israel." The House was expected to pass a similar resolution on Wednesday.

"The Senate has spoken loud and clear: Israel has the right to defend itself against aggression," Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist said. "While I urge the Israeli government to act carefully, there should be no doubt as to where we stand in this conflict."

Saudi Arabia has also relayed alarm to the United States over the Iranian intervention, officials said. They said Saudi Arabia and other Gulf Cooperation Council states were concerned that Teheran plans to order a Shi'ite revolt in the region. On Tuesday, Bush spoke by telephone with Saudi King Abdullah in a discussion that focused on the Israeli-Hizbullah war.

As a result, Ms. Rice has postponed her visit to the Middle East to help arrange a ceasefire. Officials said the secretary, who had been expected to arrive in Israel on Wednesday, would delay her visit until around July 25.

"A ceasefire that would leave intact a [Hizbullah] terrorist infrastructure is unacceptable," White House spokesman Tony Snow said.

On Tuesday, Ms. Rice disagreed with a call by visiting Egyptian Foreign Minister Ahmed Abu Al Gheit during the start of the Egyptian-U.S. strategic dialogue. Ms. Rice dismissed Al Gheit's call for an immediate ceasefire, saying Hizbullah must first release prisoners and withdraw from the Israeli border.

"We have to make certain that anything that we do is going to be of lasting value," Ms. Rice said. "The Middle East has been through too many spasms of violence and we have to deal with underlying conditions so that we can create sustainable conditions for political progress there."

Officials said the administration has been coordinating with Israel to help evacuate the 25,000-member American community in Lebanon. They said Central Command has sent nine ships to Lebanon to evacuate at least 5,000 Americans.

"We have a changing situation [in Lebanon]," U.S. Naval Forces Central Command chief Vice Adm. Patrick Walsh told a Pentagon briefing on Tuesday. "We have a very complex environment that we're about to put a substantial number more of American citizens into, and the security and safety of those people are paramount to us, and that's our No. 1 mission."


TOPICS: Egypt; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; Syria; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; condeleezarice; condi; egypt; globaljihad; gwot; hezbollah; iran; islam; islamicterrorism; israel; isreal; jihad; lebanon; muslim; muslims; religionofpeace; rop; syria; terror; terrorism; trop; waronterror; wot
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To: RobbyS

Cute! Thanks.

I see references to Foggy Bottom around here all the time, did not know what it was.

Now... I do!


41 posted on 07/20/2006 3:30:36 PM PDT by La Enchiladita (Brian Williams, how do you feel about being an idiotic, tan-in-a-can pantywaist?)
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To: BradtotheBone

Please don't tell me that Condi is caving in to liberal think.


42 posted on 07/20/2006 3:37:02 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: BradtotheBone
WASHINGTON — Officials said the Bush administration, after initial hesitation

Officials said Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice initially sought to halt Israel's massive retaliation against Hizbullah,

Officials said the administration has been pressed by Congress and conservative circles to support Israel during its war against Hizbullah.

Officials said the administration has been coordinating with Israel to help evacuate the 25,000-member American community in Lebanon.

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At least it's official.

43 posted on 07/20/2006 3:38:02 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: RobbyS
"It is such an efing elitist joint, with a slight contempt for such creatures as tourists. If you get in a pinch in a foreign country, don't expect help (there are exceptions)."

If you look at the "tourists" we've seen exiting Beirut this week - the carping and moaning and blubbering pathetic ugly Americans - I think it's understandable why consular staff is often dismissive of tourists. They can be dressed in chic cruising garb or laid-back touring outfits or backpacker grunge, but they all share the same attitude when abroad: the Embassy is my Mommy.

I learned long ago not to depend on the embassies for anything, other than replacing a passport or taking a country registration.

Saying that makes me feel guilty though, because I have seen embassy staff go far above and beyond the call of duty.

An acquaintance whom I took to the emergency room for food poisoning was more-or-less adopted by the embassy as he emerged from his coma (and wouldn't you know it, not one word of "thanks" from this ugly American once he recovered). Elsewhere a friend received an embassy security escort because he was being stalked by a completely psycho local national (never did know why).
Americans who are looking for the embassy to be their Mommy abroad will be greatly disappointed.

Americans who have lowered their expectations to a realistic level will be happy with anything offered by U.S. consular staff.

44 posted on 07/20/2006 3:40:48 PM PDT by angkor
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To: angkor

Interesting take.
Doesn't she seem a little slow to get the new version? People are coming out of the woodwork to support Israel! Bolton figuratively spits out his coffee laughing at the idea of a cease-fire, and she's still hawking the old paradigm.
dunno.


45 posted on 07/20/2006 3:41:04 PM PDT by Sarah
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To: Arizona Carolyn

And she remains on my 2008 VPOTUS list, with George Allen as POTUS.


46 posted on 07/20/2006 3:42:19 PM PDT by angkor
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To: Sarah

I think she's still a bit of the academic.

She has 2 more years to learn realpolitik.


47 posted on 07/20/2006 3:44:36 PM PDT by angkor
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To: La Enchiladita

"Is Foggy Bottom another name for the State Dept.? "

Yes.

DC is built on a swamp, and State is nearly adjacent to the Potomac River. So the small landmass from State down to the Lincoln Memorial - just a couple hundred yards really - tends to be a fog (humidity) sump.


48 posted on 07/20/2006 3:47:40 PM PDT by angkor
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Mine too, at the moment. Also, she's been pretty unyielding, judging from the little we know, on the pro-life front. This may not be important to some FReepers, but it matters to me, and I couldn't vote for somebody who is pro-abortion.

On the other hand, there are other aspects. I just attended an event featuring Randall Terry, who is running for state senator here in Florida. His GOP primary opponent is awful and 100% pro-death (death for all, infant, ill adult, or elderly!), but I would have a lot of trouble voting for Randall because of some completely stupid, bigoted sounding statements he made about an unrelated issue. So there are a lot of things factored into my vote.

But in general, I haven't been thrilled with her performance, and combined with her pro-choice stance, this pretty much crosses her off my list.


49 posted on 07/20/2006 3:55:23 PM PDT by livius
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To: gondramB

Are you sure you aren't just infatuated with him for putting the "smack down" on Helen Thomas?


50 posted on 07/20/2006 4:07:12 PM PDT by cajun-jack
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To: BradtotheBone

Bolton for Sec of State.


51 posted on 07/20/2006 4:07:13 PM PDT by Sabramerican (Rice lacks Ray Nagin's competence.)
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To: BradtotheBone
"....there should be no doubt as to where we stand in this conflict."

The RINO's finally said something I agree with.

52 posted on 07/20/2006 4:10:02 PM PDT by blam
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To: RobbyS
Snow has made a difference

As has John Bolton, Both are good men in the right place at the right time.

53 posted on 07/20/2006 4:22:53 PM PDT by lancer (If you are not with us, you are against us!)
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To: angkor

Most consulates make it clear that their first duty is toward businessmen dealing with the locals. As for the "ugly" types: you do understand that the media is seeking out the grouches, and will not feature anyone who does not have a good "story." to tell. Their editors will ignore them if they don't.


54 posted on 07/20/2006 4:23:29 PM PDT by RobbyS ( CHIRHO)
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To: Sarah

She has taken the position of reining in Israel from the get-go. I see no real change here.


55 posted on 07/20/2006 4:31:53 PM PDT by Ingtar (Prensa dos para el inglés)
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To: Ingtar
I agree,
my dissapointment is probably due to the fact that for quite a while she stayed out of Israeli events. I don't remember any comments, and frankly there were other things happening at the time...
56 posted on 07/20/2006 4:34:34 PM PDT by Sarah
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To: MikeA

They think terrorists and rogues can be made to change their ways through endless jabber-jawing. I don't get it.

The world has changed, war has changed, the enemy is different, the Geneva convention is out of date and doesn't seem to be relevant in today's world, FISA is out of date, The defense department, CIA, FBI and other agencies are being revamped but the State Department plods along totally unaware that everything around them has changed. Negotiation, jabber-jawing and subtle hidden hints dropped over high tea is all they know.


57 posted on 07/20/2006 4:52:02 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: Peach

Bush's national security adviser said the U.S. intelligence community did not have evidence of Iranian or Syrian involvement.

They don't have much evidence on anything anymore.


58 posted on 07/20/2006 4:55:03 PM PDT by Joan Kerrey
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To: BradtotheBone
They said Ms. Rice, in twice-a-day phone calls, pressed Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert to significantly reduce the operation to prevent casualties and maintain the Lebanese government.

Great, and we want to run this Aribist(Powell light) for President.

59 posted on 07/20/2006 4:57:59 PM PDT by itsahoot (The home of the Free, Because of the Brave (Shamelessly stolen from a Marine)
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To: BradtotheBone

This should help cool all that ridiculous "Condi for President" talk.


60 posted on 07/20/2006 5:00:54 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Why are we letting Iran and Syria get away with this? Why aren't we bombing them along with Israel?)
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