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EchoStar (Dish Network) Shares Up on Talk of DirecTV Acquisition
Teleclick ^ | July 20, 2006

Posted on 07/20/2006 2:28:12 PM PDT by HAL9000

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To: HAL9000
I was thinking about switching from Comcast cable to Dish, as Dish has far more HD channels than Comcast, and their HD is much higher quality than DirecTV.

I really want to dump the ever-evil Comcast. The picture quality STINKS on analog - when I buy 320x240 "Battlestar Galactica" episodes on iTunes, it is equal in picture quality to Comcast!

They scramble DiscoveryHD and ESPN-HD, even though I pay through the nose for the analog versions. Even if I were to pay for them, I can't watch them without a set-top box, and hence they won't be viewable on my Elgato EyeTV HDTV system I have on my Mac.

The only think keeping my holding on to Comcast is the very-high speed internet connection. While Comcast offers cable internet without TV service, I've heard reports that the "TV channel blocking" filters they place on the line signifigantly impact internet speed.

41 posted on 07/20/2006 3:40:21 PM PDT by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity.)
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To: Thermalseeker
I always wondered why nobody ever developed a dish heater.

Well, there's always more than one way to skin a cat, but this is the first thing that comes to mind: The conductive wires or water plumbing typically associated with heaters would interfere with with the EM signal-collecting poperties of the dish.

It sure does fire up the engineering imagination to how this could be done, though! Good idea.

42 posted on 07/20/2006 3:43:33 PM PDT by Yossarian (Everyday, somewhere on the globe, somebody is pushing the frontier of stupidity.)
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To: HAL9000

I just yanked DISH out of my house and went back to cable. They finally added enough HDTV channels to make it worthwhile, but when I scheduled the installation of the necessary upgrade, they screwed up the scheduling. When informed of their screwup, instead of going out of their way to remedy it, they basically just said "oops" and put me back at the end of the line to wait another 11 days before getting the service.

After several wasted hours on the phone (mostly on hold, including getting disconnected a time or two) over the course of about four days, I was eventually told that the installer would be out to hook it up the next day. Not only did that not happen, but when I called again, there were no notes on my computer file indicating that anything had been said to me, let alone the lie I'd been told apparently just to get me off the phone. So that was the end of DISH network for me.


43 posted on 07/20/2006 3:52:08 PM PDT by william clark
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To: Thermalseeker

When my dish was mounted way up on the side of the house, I tried all sorts of contraptions to get it de-iced too. It took forever to get it cleared off. Finally, I had enough of that and installed the pole on the ground.


44 posted on 07/20/2006 3:52:42 PM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: HAL9000

Well, if they succeed, I'm betting Charlie Ergen will be ticked. Dish tried to buy DirecTV a few years back, and the feds nixed it. So I guess it's ok for DirecTV, but not Dish?


45 posted on 07/20/2006 3:59:21 PM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: Yossarian
While Comcast offers cable internet without TV service, I've heard reports that the "TV channel blocking" filters they place on the line signifigantly impact internet speed.

That should cease to be a problem when they eventually go full digital. When that is, is beyond me, but with a full digital signal they will be programming your receivers/setop boxes/digital TV's with what you can receive, so actual filters won't be needed.

Bandwisth should go up as well since there won't be any analog signals to eat it up.

46 posted on 07/20/2006 4:00:13 PM PDT by AFreeBird (... Burn the land and boil the sea's, but you can't take the sky from me.)
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To: Sans-Culotte
I thought Echostar (DiSH) was all set to buy DirecTV a few years ago, but the deal fell through because it didn't clear those "regulatory and antitrust hurdles".

Scratching my head. That's exactly how I remember it. They ruled Echostar couldn't buy DirecTV, but now the reverse is OK? Huh?

47 posted on 07/20/2006 4:14:08 PM PDT by Smogger (It's the WOT Stupid)
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To: Yossarian; Thermalseeker
Check Dish Depot's Accessories page and look for the "Hot Shot Dish Heater". I have no idea whether it works, but it is available.
48 posted on 07/20/2006 4:15:35 PM PDT by Stegall Tx (You can put a DUmmie into a class, but you can't put class into a DUmmie.)
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To: somemoreequalthanothers
"The on-screen guide sucks compared to DISH, but I'll live with it."

You nailed it. We have Dish and my in-laws have DirectTV. While our program packages are pretty similar, I absolutely hate the on-screen guide that they have. Dish Network's guide is, in my opinion (check my tagline!), vastly superior.

49 posted on 07/20/2006 4:22:51 PM PDT by Pablo64 ("Everything I say is fully substantiated by my own opinion.")
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To: MikefromOhio

One thing I always wondered about DirectTV, Why are Fox News,MSNBC and all other news channels in the 360s and CNN\Headline News at 202 and 204?


50 posted on 07/20/2006 4:47:58 PM PDT by Uneasy Rider
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To: Uneasy Rider

Couldn't tell you.

The most logical explanation is that they were given numbers as they bought into the DirecTV program.

ESPN is 206, whereas FX and FSN are either in the 300s or the 600s.....


51 posted on 07/20/2006 4:52:07 PM PDT by MikefromOhio
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To: MikefromOhio
The most logical explanation is that they were given numbers as they bought into the DirecTV program.



I think it is a conspiracy to make new comers
see CNN first before they get to Fox News
"tinfoil hat donned"
52 posted on 07/20/2006 5:03:16 PM PDT by Uneasy Rider
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To: gondramB

My HD DVR from TWC can record 2 shows at once as well. TiVo is not the only DVR with that feature.


53 posted on 07/20/2006 5:05:17 PM PDT by bkwells (Liberals=Hypocrites)
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To: HAL9000

I sure hope Charlie can take it private. I like Dish, and don't want DirecTV or AT&T taking over.


54 posted on 07/20/2006 5:06:08 PM PDT by B Knotts (Newt '08!)
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To: gondramB

The problem is that they don't have MPEG4, which will be required for the new HD channels.

I've got two SD DirecTiVos, so I'm good on that.


55 posted on 07/20/2006 5:11:01 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: Uneasy Rider

Fox was still starting up when CNN signed onto DirecTV.

I think it was a first come first serve deal, but believe what you like.


56 posted on 07/20/2006 5:12:27 PM PDT by MikefromOhio
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To: Yossarian
The conductive wires or water plumbing typically associated with heaters would interfere with with the EM signal-collecting poperties of the dish.

Nah. I'm an RF engineer. So long as the heater would be on the back of the dish it'd be invisible to the incoming RF. Somebody else chimed in and said a heater is available. Story of my life, I have lots of ideas I never act on, then I see them a couple of years later on TV.......

57 posted on 07/20/2006 5:24:53 PM PDT by Thermalseeker
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To: bwteim
I could not agree with you more. I am so sick of the stupid paid programming I could scream. It is all that is on after a certain hour.
58 posted on 07/20/2006 5:31:43 PM PDT by ladyinred (The NYTimes, hang 'em high!)
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To: william clark
After several wasted hours on the phone (mostly on hold, including getting disconnected a time or two) over the course of about four days, I was eventually told that the installer would be out to hook it up the next day. Not only did that not happen, but when I called again, there were no notes on my computer file indicating that anything had been said to me, let alone the lie I'd been told apparently just to get me off the phone. So that was the end of DISH network for me.

I had a similar (though much worse) experience with cable here in Houston. It's probably a regional thing. Remember that when you subscribe to a dish service at the national level (doesn't matter which brand) that they send out the dish company nearest you. That company may totally suck, compared to one in a different region that doesn't. By the same token, I know of people who had nothing but good things to say about Time/Warner Cable.

I don't want to go into detail about how bad Time/Warner Cable sucked, but suffice it to say I was steamed enough to cancel the cable AND the RoadRunner service I had with them. I now have DiSH and DSL.

59 posted on 07/20/2006 6:04:58 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte (I hereby re-christen the Republican Party as "The Flaccid Party")
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To: HAL9000

This is the second time this has been floated; the first time the antitrust people shot it down. I guess the appropriate palms have been greased this go around?


60 posted on 07/20/2006 6:09:22 PM PDT by Old_Mil (http://www.constitutionparty.org - Forging a Rebirth of Freedom.)
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