Gun ownership up, crime down

Sierra Times ^ | July 20 2006 | Michael Cook

[freepatriot32]

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[Pablo64]

Bump for common sense and feedom!

[Recon Dad]

My wife and I purchased three new pistols in the last 2 months and I plan on buying a fourth on Friday. The worst part about buying a hand gun is the minute you buy one you find one that would be better.

[NapkinUser]

Gun ownership up, crime down, dems saddened

[Jaxter]

I love gun threads. Here's my last purchase (not counting a youth sized .22/.410 that I got for the grandkids to use)..a Taurus .44 Mag that only weighs 28.3 ounces and kicks like a freaking mule..

Over the last 7-8 years I've averaged 3 gun purchases a year. Just trying to do my part.

[tcostell]

My wife just applied for her NJ FID and pistol purchasers paperwork. Once it's approved (a lengthy process in NJ that we have no intention of letting deter us) she's getting a Springfield XD9 for herself.

I've already made one rifle purchase this year (my Romanian AK47) and I'm planning at least 2 more in the next 12 months. A practice rifle (I'm thinking a left handed Savage in 308) and a hunting rifle for my trip to Alaska (I'm still on the fence between a 325WSM, and a 338 WinMag...also left handed.)

Although to be honest, I might buy one more gun just for fun. My wife bought me a copy of "Enemy at the Gates" so I'm thinking about buying a Moisin Nagant M91/30 in 7.62x54mm, just to play around with. (I'm going to wait around until I can find one that looks like it's a deal for the money.)

Then next year it's time to start upgrading my Shotguns. I shoot clays pretty regularly and I'm hitting 22 or 23 on average out of 25. I know if I go with a gun with better balance I'll start hitting them really well. Right now I shoot a Mossberg Silver Reserve O/U, but I'm going to upgrade to a pair of Brownings in 12 and 20 gauge.

I haven't decided on a model yet but it's over a year away.

[Labyrinthos]

I inform you of this because I just read a report from the Chief of Police in Washington DC has declared a “crime emergency” in that city. This was in response to a sharp increase in crimes citywide in recent weeks. They had fourteen homicides in the first 12 days of July. A 16% increase in robberies and a 14% rise in serious assaults over the past 30 days.

On the other hand, NYC has perhaps the toughest gun laws in the Country and it has by far the lowest violent crime rate of any large city in the Country and one of the lowest violent crime rates of all city in the Country, including those gun-toting red-state icons like Phoenix, Jacksonville, Denver, and Dallas-Fort Worth. The same can be said about Boston and several other large anti-second amendment cities. On the other hand, there are several anti-second amendment cities that have extemely high violent crime rates, like Detroit, Baltimore, and of course, Washington D.C. The honest question is whether anti-gun cities like New York and Boston have low violent crime rates because of their strict gun laws or in spite of them; whether anti-gun cities like Detroit and Baltimore have high violent crime rates because of their strict gun laws or in spite of them; and whether gun loving cities like Phoenix, Jacksonville, and DFW have high violent crime rates because of their gun laws or in spite of them. IMHO, the statistics offer something for everyone, which makes them pretty much worthless, and that crime rates have a lot more to do with the types of people who inhabit a city than the gun laws.

[RetiredArmy]

IMHO, the statistics offer something for everyone, which makes them pretty much worthless, and that crime rates have a lot more to do with the types of people who inhabit a city than the gun laws.

Let's see, Atlanta, Detroit, NY City, WA D.C., Chicago, Philly, etc., the inter-city is primarily black. I love it when they speak of whites killing blacks, when it is black on black crime that kills more and damages blacks more. LA's gangs, D.C. and Philly's gangs. Latino gangs. Seattle has tons of Asian gangs. Your right. It is who is there.

[Jack Hammer]

Just wondering how you like that Romanian AK, and how you think it compares to the Russian, Chinese, and other editions? I'm thinking of an AK myself, and the Romanians are on sale in my neck of the woods, too. I'm wondering if I should go for it or try to hunt around for a different vintage. Thoughts?

Anyone like to chime in?

[sgtbono2002]

I live in Maryland, one of the ten states with no carry law. Don expect to ever get a carry law either. Too many liberals in Annapolis.

[Labyrinthos]

Buy that man a cigar!

[Jaxter]

I have a Norinco (Chinese) MAK-90 that I love to shoot. It's very accurate at 100 yds. which is just about all my eyes are good for without a scope any more. It came with a wooden thumb-hole stock that I hated. So I replaced it with a composite and now it looks like this..

A lot of people don't like MAK-90's but I have no complaints. I actually bought in in November of 1992, right after I first heard the phrase "President-elect Clinton" as I knew a ban would be coming.

[Jaxter]

I have a Norinco (Chinese) MAK-90 that I love to shoot. It's very accurate at 100 yds. which is just about all my eyes are good for without a scope any more. It came with a wooden thumb-hole stock that I hated. So I replaced it with a composite and now it looks like this..

A lot of people don't like MAK-90's but I have no complaints. I actually bought in in November of 1992, right after I first heard the phrase "President-elect Clinton" as I knew a ban would be coming.

[Jaxter]

Oops! Sorry about that. Got distracted by work for a second.

[tcostell]

I've got to tell you... for what it is... its just GREAT!

It's not the most accurate firearm in the world but none of them are. I can do a slow shot 3.5 inch group at 100 yards if the barrel is cold, and a 10 inch group when it's warm. I can maybe get that down to 2 inches if I shoot from a rest and use American ammo instead of the Russian milsurp. (I typically shoot from a kneeling position... how often to have a rest with you in the field.)

It's not terribly pretty either, but that's rather the point. The one thing it is is utterly reliable. Throw it in the mud, paddle your canoe, drag it behind you because you're too tire to carry it, whatever... clear the muzzle, chamber a round and it goes BANG! Every time... no exceptions.

It's no comparison to the fine military hardware that our guys carry, but to pay $600 for a Russian gun vs. $250 for a Romanian, I'd say ... don't waste your money. The Romanian gun will do EVERYTHING the Russian will, and for half the price. I simply love the thing. And you don't know fun till you've bump shot a magazine full of 7.62x39mm hollow points. the muzzle flash alone looks like 4th of July.

I bought a POSP scope for it because the sighting picture isn't what I would call wonderful, but that won't change if you spend twice the money on a Russian of Chinese gun.
Give me 25K, and a WASR dealer and I can take over a west African country.

Give me Romanian every time.

[Jack Hammer]

"It's not terribly pretty either, but that's rather the point. The one thing it is is utterly reliable. Throw it in the mud, paddle your canoe, drag it behind you because you're too tire to carry it, whatever... clear the muzzle, chamber a round and it goes BANG! Every time... no exceptions."

Yes, that's what I'm looking for!

"...to pay $600 for a Russian gun vs. $250 for a Romanian, I'd say ... don't waste your money. The Romanian gun will do EVERYTHING the Russian will, and for half the price."

Sounds good; thank you!

[Jack Hammer]

Looks very nice, and I'm sure it shoots great; thanks for the input....

[Shooter 2.5]

Gun owners have that ability to send a anticrime message out every time a criminal is shot and killed. Gun owners also take a more practical view by voting anticrime judges to the bench and not allowing revolving door justice.

What helps to keep our guns is joining the NRA and voting the antigun dems out of office.
By the way, buying a gun doesn't make anyone an expert no more than buying a violin makes someone a musician. The best way to learn how to shoot a pistol is to compete in International Defensive Pistol Association Matches. For Rifle, compete in NRA High Power Rifle matches.