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Republicans Unveil School Voucher Plan
Breitbart.com ^ | 18 July 2006 | BEN FELLER

Posted on 07/19/2006 7:15:14 PM PDT by ChessExpert

Congressional Republicans on Tuesday proposed a $100 million plan to let poor children leave struggling schools ...

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; education; educationfunding; gop; poorchildren; schoolvouchers; strugglingschools; voucher; vouchers
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To: speekinout
Getting kids out of poor schools, no matter what their economic class is, should be our first priority.

Seems like a Catch-22. The bad schools are bad primarily because of the students - and their parents - not caring. Putting them elsewhere will just drive down whatever other school they're in.
21 posted on 07/19/2006 9:23:34 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Cut the taxes and spending, parents will have money to send their kids to any school they wish, competition among schools will drive down prices, and kids will get a better education without government and liberal meddling.

Sounds good. Unlikely, but good.
22 posted on 07/19/2006 9:24:19 PM PDT by CottonBall
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To: Clintonfatigued

I'm not a supporter of vouchers. I want government out of education altogether, and education sold on the free market.

Many homeschoolers that I know see it the same way, but maybe some are supportive. I'm not sure. I'll give it a ping.


23 posted on 07/19/2006 10:32:35 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (That's taxes, not Texas. I have no beef with TX. NJ has the highest property taxes in the nation.)
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To: agrace; bboop; blu; cgk; Conservativehomeschoolmama; cyborg; cyclotic; dawn53; Diva Betsy Ross; ...
Homeschool Ping!

If you want on/off this ping list, please let me know.

Are you a homeschooler looking for advice from other homeschoolers? Visit our Free Republic Homeschoolers' Forum 2006-2007.

24 posted on 07/19/2006 10:37:05 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (That's taxes, not Texas. I have no beef with TX. NJ has the highest property taxes in the nation.)
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To: ChessExpert

bttt


25 posted on 07/19/2006 10:37:49 PM PDT by diamond6 (Everyone who is for abortion have been born. Ronald Reagan)
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To: uptoolate

We are lower middle class--I'm sure we wouldn't qualify. So the people in the middle get left out? How is this equal treatment?


26 posted on 07/19/2006 10:38:52 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: ChessExpert
Don't worry. The Senate Democrats will filibuster school choice to death.

(Go Israel, Go! Slap 'Em, Down Hezbullies.)

27 posted on 07/19/2006 10:39:11 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: ChessExpert

This is a great election year ploy. Go for it!!! It'll never pass because the NEA is too powerful of a lobby but it can work to our advantage in November.

Another issue the GOP should find some way to raise right before the midterm elections: Reparations for Black America. That's a win/win situation for the Pubbies.


28 posted on 07/19/2006 10:39:50 PM PDT by no dems (www.4condi.com)
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To: TXBubba

Thanks for the ping TX. I'll never see vouchers--with my luck it will happen after all three kids are out of school. I'm sure you wouldn't mind seeing vouchers either. Did I tell you they've got another charter school opening here in 2007? That will be #2 boy's kindergarten year so we are on the waiting list for that. They are still in the process of getting approval, getting a site, and getting staff. Hopefully it will go through and turn out to be something good. The lady that is starting this school said it will be all boy and all girl classes. She said they would take kids with learning disabilities as well so we will see.


29 posted on 07/19/2006 10:45:38 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

"Typical Republicans. Instead of going to the source (Killing the Dept of Education and giving control back to local communities) they have to come up with another big-government "conservative" program."

Bingo! Or haven't you forgotten this:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/975049/posts

"Over the course of an hour-long meeting with Ed Gillespie, the chairman of the Republican National Committee, we took great care to give him every opportunity to explain himself fully so that nothing could be misunderstood. The result was a surprisingly frank admission that the Republican Party defines “fiscal responsibility” as increasing the federal budget at “a slower rate of growth” than the Democrats (his words).

We asked him three times to explain why President Bush and the Republican Congress have increased discretionary non-defense spending at such an alarming rate, and why the party has embraced the expansion of the federal government’s roles in education, agriculture and Great Society-era entitlement programs.

“Those questions have been decided,” was his response. The public wants an expanded federal role in those areas, and the Republican Party at the highest levels has decided to give the public what it wants."


30 posted on 07/19/2006 11:03:59 PM PDT by KantianBurke (We Cannot Civilize, But We Can Neutralize)
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To: Clintonfatigued
Clintonfatigued,

It is not a step in the right direction.

As much as I favor vouchers and tax credits, education is NOT delegated as a responsibility of the federal government. If the federal government starts handing out vouchers then our Constitution is further weakened.

Also, if the federal government takes over the role of voucher dispenser then the experimentation that would have occurred on the state level will have been short circuited and the best system will not have the opportunity to emerge.
31 posted on 07/20/2006 5:00:31 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Instead of going to the source (Killing the Dept of Education and giving control back to local communities) they have to come up with another big-government "conservative" program.

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Very typically Republican, indeed! They should be killing the Department of Education, exactly!

They make me sick!


32 posted on 07/20/2006 5:02:28 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: CottonBall

At first, I thought this was great - but not if it's only for the 'poor'. ( Cotton Ball)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The best way to begin privatizing government education is to start handing tuition bills to the well off when they show up at the government school with their little darlings.

Government education is the biggest entitlement to the middle and upper classes after social security.


33 posted on 07/20/2006 5:06:20 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Element187

the vouchers create competition among schools

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Element, I completely agree with you but it ticks me off how the Republicans go about it.

The Republicans should be working on this on the state level. And the on the federal level they should be abolishing the Department of Education.


34 posted on 07/20/2006 5:08:41 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Kill the NEA.


35 posted on 07/20/2006 5:10:19 AM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Clintonfatigued
It's a step in the right direction.

It's a government hand out for something that the parents are unable or unwilling to do for themselves. It is also a government subsidy for private schools. If the government is going to subsidize those schools then why shouldn't the government have a say over what is taught and who gets admitted? Is that what you want? Is there any doubt that the next Democrat administration won't do exactly that?

36 posted on 07/20/2006 5:10:28 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: ChessExpert
Again...the middle class pays the bills and the "poor" get special treatment.. The code word "poor" has a very special meaning in politics...

Why should any child be forced to attend a falled government school?

37 posted on 07/20/2006 5:13:13 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: ManningMillworks
I personally think every family should be given the equivalent funds your district spends per child in public school and that amount be deducted from thier operating bugget - but one step at time.:)

There is no reason whatsoever why you yourself cannot put your children in private schools. There are no laws to prevent it. Lord knows that there are a lot of private schools out there. The only thing that prevents it is that you are unwilling to foot the expense. So your solution is for the government to subsidize you and pay for something you are unwilling to pay for yourself. And you see nothing wrong with that?

38 posted on 07/20/2006 5:13:29 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Element187
...school vouchers is not the end all be all to solving our nations education problem, but its a good start to try and correct the mistakes.

When the government gets into the business of providing something that parents are unwilling to pay for themselves then why shouldn't the govenrment have a say over where their money is going? Why shouldn't the government be able to tell the schools what to teach and how to teach it? Who they must let in and who they cannot keep out? And if the government can do all that then how long before all private schools are at the same level as public schools?

39 posted on 07/20/2006 5:16:48 AM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur
So your solution is for the government to subsidize you and pay for something you are unwilling to pay for yourself.

Absolutely not.... I pay school taxes to the tune of 2% of the assessed value of my property each year... Why should I not have the right to direct that funding to the school of my choice, beit public or private?

That is NOT government funding...it came from my pocket.

40 posted on 07/20/2006 5:17:19 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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