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Every so often you run across an article that says exactly what you already believed, but so much more eloquently and with much better substantiation than you could ever hope to do on your own. For me, this is one of those articles. I encourage everyone to click through and read the entire thing.
1 posted on 07/19/2006 9:28:45 AM PDT by AppleButter
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2 posted on 07/19/2006 9:33:21 AM PDT by AppleButter
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To: AppleButter

Good read! Thanks and BumP It Up!


3 posted on 07/19/2006 9:42:40 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi --- Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: AppleButter
I would not have believed this article until yesterday. I have been studying the immigration issue very carefully for the last 6 years, and I have come to the conclusion the process is anything but American.

I married a Russian lady almost 6 years ago, and in August 2002 we filed to bring her then 23 year old daughter and grandson here, and even though we paid $760 for the visas last year it will take another 4 - 5 years for them to arrive. My wife is a citizen, and as such they are in the First Family Preference.

Yesterday I chatted with the aide of an important member of Congress I have come to know fairly well in the last few years. He said, "I will tell you this off the record, and will not put anything in writing and I will also deny I ever said it. The State Department and DHS meet every month and decide how immigrant visas are to be allocated. The process is arbitrary, and Mexico has been receiving the bulk of the visas even though any one country is supposed to receive at most 7%. The priority date the government gives to those waiting to immigrate legally is simply to keep them from phoning us all the time. They simply have little meaning."
4 posted on 07/19/2006 9:47:35 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Jesus on Immigration, John 10:1)
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To: AppleButter; eakole
One of the most insightful comments was posted right here on FR awhile back after one of the marches by eakole:

......."These scofflaws and criminals do not only want American jobs, they also want all the rights of American Citizens with the intent to inflict upon us the failed customs, politics, and ignorance that frame the foundation of Mexico’s class-conscious tyranny, universal lawlessness and eternal poverty"........

I would add that Mexico is a satrap ruled by a despotic government-of-the-wealthy that tosses citizens it considers useless over the US border, to become wards of American taxpayers, and the US welfare system. Now they demand veto power over US immigration policy. And some in Congress are prepared to ignore the US Constitution and have signed on to the Mexican agenda. Americans are defending our citizenship from those who would devalue it, who are dragging our country down into anarchy.

5 posted on 07/19/2006 9:48:51 AM PDT by Liz (The US Constitution is intended to protect the people from the government.)
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To: AppleButter
the American political class has a special affinity for their colleagues south of the border

This affinity is so blatant that sometimes I wonder if they are motivated by "mordida" sharing.

7 posted on 07/19/2006 10:00:08 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: AppleButter; sinkspur
I can (almost) understand Dubya's desire for more guest workers, his crowd lives for the dollar and the public be damned.
But why the 'path to citizenship'?
Is he not aware of the damage that will do these millions of new Democrat voters will do?
8 posted on 07/19/2006 10:02:34 AM PDT by investigateworld (Abortion stops a beating heart)
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To: AppleButter

BTTT


9 posted on 07/19/2006 10:03:31 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: AppleButter
The solution

After the uprising of 17 June
The Secretary of the Writers' Union
Had leaflets distributed in the Stalinallee
Stating that the People
Had forfeited the confidence of the government
And could win it back only
By redoubled efforts. Would it not be easier
In that case for the government
To dissolve the people
And elect another?

Bertolt Brecht

Does anyone doubt still that we are long past Claire Wolfe's "awkward age?

13 posted on 07/19/2006 10:19:44 AM PDT by kaylar
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The author's impression seems to be that, among other reasons, politicians of both parties are using mass immigration, especially of Latinos, in order to obtain a population more accomodating of government's agendas. It's a good read.


21 posted on 07/19/2006 11:44:36 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Going partly violently to the thing 24-7!)
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The familiar reasons usually discussed by the critics were there: Democrats wanted increased immigration because Latin American immigrants tend to vote Democrat once naturalized (we did not meet a single Democrat that was openly against mass immigration); and Republicans like immigration because their sponsors (businesses and churches) do. But there were other, more nuanced reasons that we came upon, usually not discussed by the critics, and probably more difficult to detect without the type of access that we, as a Mexican delegation, had.

These things are not equal, the question is why do Republicans, conservatives, and libertarians support policies that are suicidal to their beliefs.

While I can recall many accolades for the Mexican immigrants and for Mexican-Americans (one white congressman even gave me a "high five" when recalling that Californian Hispanics were headed for majority status), I remember few instances when a legislator spoke well of his or her white constituents. One even called them "rednecks," and apologized to us on their behalf for their incorrect attitude on immigration. Most of them seemed to advocate changing the ethnic composition of the United States as an end in itself.

While personal profit and class interest are important and shouldn't be dismissed, in this paragraph is the main answer. The chief identifying characteristic of the dominant modern left is white-hating racism. One of the main short-term benefits for Republican leaders not mentioned by the author is that supporting mass third world immigration is a shield against being called racist by their liberal masters. And that fear can't be separated from the 24/7 hate spew against whites that comes from the media and academia.

It should be said that anti-immigration is mostly a political loser, it has no short-term benefits for most politicians and you can't get most of its opponenets to vote for it when it really counts. Why is that? One reason is that the consequence of many radical political and cultural decisions are delayed for years, decades, or even centuries and it's easy to procrastinate on them. The full effect of today's immigration won't kick in until the immigrants start taking political power, and that's manana. Another reason is that because America is such a huge country Americans believe they can always flee to another part of the country if local conditions get too bad, the "white (and other) flight" option that allows them to escape their inaction. But mostly it is a matter of Pavlovian conditioning on the issue of race that makes people fall on the floor, curl up into a ball, and start sucking their thumbs. No one wants to be thought of as a "redneck" racist, as the Congressperson above so generously put it, and the pro-immigration forces play on that conditioning whenever immigration comes up for a vote.

22 posted on 07/19/2006 12:28:15 PM PDT by jordan8
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To: AppleButter

Bttt!


25 posted on 11/10/2006 12:14:46 PM PST by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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"Why are politicians so keen on mass immigration while the common American is not? This has perplexed analysts."

Nothing perplexing about it. CHEEP LABOR.

26 posted on 11/10/2006 12:24:48 PM PST by sinclair (the two most common elements in the universe are hydrogen and stupidity)
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The Founding Fathers crafted things so that the "knaves" will be forced to abide by the will of the people, but they warned that their "natural progress" is to find ways to remain in power and increase that power at the people’s expense.

This election cycle does not support that thesis. We, the American voters, elected a whole new class of "knaves."

27 posted on 11/10/2006 12:27:39 PM PST by george wythe
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To: A. Pole

Yup, that is the plan alright, both parties want to turn us all into surfs. And went the new Congress is seated the "plan" will take a gaint step forward when Bush finally gets his Amnesty.


28 posted on 11/10/2006 12:39:44 PM PST by jpsb
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To: AppleButter

I think this article puts a finger on it. I was going to insert a comment on some folks starting a program to build up a resistance to lead poisoning, but...no.


33 posted on 11/10/2006 2:09:28 PM PST by Tench_Coxe
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Republican lawmakers we spoke with knew that naturalized Latin American immigrants and their offspring vote mostly for the Democratic Party, but still most of them (all except five) were unambiguously in favor of amnesty and of continued mass immigration (at least from Mexico). This seemed paradoxical, and explaining their motivations was more challenging. However, while acknowledging that they may not now receive their votes, they believed that these immigrants are more malleable than the existing American: That with enough care, convincing, and "teaching," they could be converted, be grateful, and become dependent on them.

Makes sense. They don't want Americans that are self reliant or think for themselves.

Republicans seemed to idealize the patron-client relation with Hispanics as much as their Democratic competitors did. Curiously, three out of the five lawmakers that declared their opposition to amnesty and increased immigration (all Republicans), were from border states.

They've seen first hand what's going to happen.

35 posted on 11/10/2006 3:07:20 PM PST by Netizen (When the PINO signs his beloved scamnesty bill, the GOP officially dies and the Bush legacy is set.)
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While Democratic legislators we spoke with welcomed the Latino vote, they seemed more interested in those immigrants and their offspring as a tool to increase the role of the government in society and the economy. Several of them tended to see Latin American immigrants and even Latino constituents as both more dependent on and accepting of active government programs and the political class guaranteeing those programs, a point they emphasized more than the voting per se. Moreover, they saw Latinos as more loyal and "dependable" in supporting a patron-client system and in building reliable patronage networks to circumvent the exigencies of political life as devised by the Founding Fathers and expected daily by the average American.

Figures. Just another group to keep on the plantation.

36 posted on 11/10/2006 3:18:34 PM PST by Netizen (When the PINO signs his beloved scamnesty bill, the GOP officially dies and the Bush legacy is set.)
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To: AppleButter

Self-ping to read later.


37 posted on 11/10/2006 3:19:43 PM PST by Nea Wood (Is cheap, illegal labor worth one life?)
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Moreover, they saw Latinos as more loyal and "dependable" in supporting a patron-client system and in building reliable patronage networks to circumvent the exigencies of political life as devised by the Founding Fathers and expected daily by the average American.

The way to oligarchy bump

49 posted on 11/11/2006 5:31:40 AM PST by A. Pole (Working three jobs - uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic, oooh yeah, yeah, hehe.)
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While Democratic legislators we spoke with welcomed the Latino vote, they seemed more interested in those immigrants and their offspring as a tool to increase the role of the government in society and the economy.

Anchor babies are the target of the left. They know that baby juanita and juan are going to vote in rewards for padre and madre when they become eligible to vote. The anchor baby vote will be the death of the U.S.

50 posted on 11/11/2006 5:55:40 AM PST by raybbr (You think it's bad now - wait till the anchor babies start to vote.)
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