Darwin's Beagle ship replica plan [for his 200th birthday]

BBC News ^ | 19 July 2006 | Staff

[PatrickHenry]

Plans are being drawn up to build a £3.3m working replica of the boat that took Charles Darwin around the world at Milford Haven in Pembrokeshire.

Fundraising for the project, which would mark the 200th anniversary of Darwin's birth in 2009, is under way.

The aim is to built a seaworthy vessel identical to the HMS Beagle on the outside, but with a modern interior.

Darwin, who showed how natural selection could explain evolution, sailed on the Beagle between 1831-36.

Sitting opposite him on the expedition was mate and surveyor John Lort Stokes.

One of Stokes' descendents, Pembrokeshire farmer David Lort Philips, together with commercial yacht master Peter McGrath, have founded the Beagle Project Pembrokeshire.

Mr McGrath said the ship would look identical to the original Beagle on the outside but would have a 21st century interior with diesel auxiliary engines and generators.

Charles Darwin developed his early theories on board the Beagle

He said he hoped the fished vessel would inspire the scientists of the future and be used by researchers and scientists from across the world.

"Externally it will be exactly the same but we want it to do some serious scientific work and you would not want the crew living like they did in the 18th Century," he said.

The pair have spent three years putting their plans together and aim to raise the money through private and institutional investors along with public subscription.

"With all the Darwin 200 celebrations there is not one big project to focus the attention on," added Mr McGrath.

"I know the effect a square rigger has on young people - it's a jaw dropping site.

"But we do not want this just to be a replica - we want it to have genuine scientific benefits.

"We have started the fundraising. Construction will take 14 months and it has to be finished by early 2009.

"She will be built in Milford Haven and it will be her home. But what we want to do when she is built is visit the significant sights in Darwin's and the Beagle's life."

Researchers believe the original remains of the 27m-long Navy brig, that was sold for scrap in 1870, are embedded in a marsh near Potton Island in Essex.

Darwin, who published On the Origin of Species by Means of Natural Selection in 1859, came fourth in a poll run by the BBC in 2002 to find the public's greatest Briton of all time.

His voyage on the Beagle allowed him to form the basis for much of his later work.

[PatrickHenry]

For what reason should a warning of possible nausea be given regarding this article?

Possibly because it has somehow attracted an amazing concentration of creationist posts.

[Dixie Yooper]

"So what?"

You can at least provide my quote which you have so eloquently defeated with your superb response. Post #6 was sent to me, not written by me.

[Just mythoughts]

"It doesn't depend on the government. Creationism/ID on the other hand needs to have the government sneak it into the science classroom in an affirmative action program based on left-wing *diversity* ideology."


Said the spider to the fly. Government is what gave evolutionist their status and funding and they are the knower's of the knowledge that think they can toss the Heavenly Father out of their churches the government run public schools.

[2nsdammit]

"So I guess that believing in God makes one a cannibal?"

According to some...

http://www.nobeliefs.com/communion/communion.htm

[Just mythoughts]

Now exactly how can the knower's of evolution not think they are superior to the Heavenly Father if they do not even believe He exists?

[StevieJ]

The actual wording is "endowed by their creator", so everyone doesn't have to believe in the same one, or can consider their parents as being their creator if they so wish.

[Just mythoughts]

HA evolution sits supreme there is NO other market that is communism 101. Those ships of merchandise buying and selling this 'ism' are alllll controlled, nothing free market about them.

[Just mythoughts]

There is nothing communistic in the statement that this earth is billions of years old, the earth is filled with that verifiable evidence and the Bible NOWHERE states this earth is a mere 6,000 years old.

[Just mythoughts]

Yes everyone has the freedom to believe whatever they choose to believe their Creator is. So if the ruling elites want to pronounce pond scum as their origin I have NO issue. However don't expect me to be legally required to accept it as the law of the land and pay for that belief with out sounding off about it.

[Dixie Yooper]

"and the Bible NOWHERE states this earth is a mere 6,000 years old"

In the beginning = 6,000 BCE (Before Common Era) You must have missed the foot notes in Genesis

[2nsdammit]

You know, it's amazing.

In another recent thread, it was noted that Genesisists will continue to bring up the same arguments, whack-a-mole-like, over and over even after they have been debunked. This is yet another example. Why can't you people get some new lines?

A belief in the ToE in no way implies ANY particular belief, or lack of belief, in God.

[Oztrich Boy]

Possibly because it has somehow attracted an amazing concentration of creationist posts

Creationists like sailing ships? Who knew?

[furball4paws]

Well, they could always register it in Liberia.

[Just mythoughts]

No we are NOT given a time for "In the beginning" the guesstimate is regarding the "time" man in the flesh has been on this earth.

[freedumb2003]

Now exactly how can the knower's of evolution not think they are superior to the Heavenly Father if they do not even believe He exists?

Almost everyone I know that understands TToE is Christian, as are most scientists.

Your assumption is invalid.

[Dimensio]

You can at least provide my quote which you have so eloquently defeated with your superb response.

I fail to see what that would accomplish, given that you have ignored refutations to the false claims that you made in post #6.

Post #6 was sent to me, not written by me.

Incorrect: 6 posted on 07/19/2006 7:21:27 AM EDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)

[Just mythoughts]

Christ did not happen to happen out of randomness that make evolution against the Heavenly Father cause the whole of the Old Testament is all about the protection of that seed line to the birth of Christ.

[Dixie Yooper]

Sorry, I was actually agreeing with you. We should have left this "ship of fools" thread after the first 6 posts.

[freedumb2003]

So you buy Genesis but not Numbers? Or that passage (I can't recall which one) which traces Jesus' lineage back to Adam?

All of them hit a figure apx. 6,000 years.

So do you believe in a literal Bible, yes or no?

[Just mythoughts]

No need to apologize, my apologies right back at you. You are most likely correct there are always "leaks" to be found in the ship of life.