To: wagglebee
I've got an easy answer for those experts... Too young is when you are not able to be personally responsible for the possible consequences of your actions (Physically, Financially, Emotionally, or otherwise). This is regardless of one's spiritual or faith-based views on the subject.
I mean isn't this a basic moral value that has nothing to do with sex at all? It's called PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY, for gosh sakes!!! No wonder they are having such problems with this idea, the majority of these people most likely support socialistic economic policies so they would see nothing wrong with these future teen parents ending up on the public dole -- all the better to control them, I guess...
As for some of the other concerns - like NAMBLA, that kind of stuff enrages me as it seems like some of this is a push on the part of abusers to take away the stigma of child abuse and such. THAT is where this just gets absolutely reprehensible. Don't these "sexperts" get educated in the very real effects of sexual abuse, or do they believe it's a myth or something crazy like that? Age differences for example when dealing with adults and teens -- there is a huge opportunity there for the adults to manipulate and control the teens. Anyone who doesn't see that should have their head examined, IMHO...
To: LibertyRocks
15 posted on
07/18/2006 4:59:07 PM PDT by
dmw
(Aren't you glad you use common sense, don't you wish everybody did?)
To: LibertyRocks
The problem with that answer is that it excludes heterosexual sex (the responsibility being the resulting human life) but gives full rein to homos, including NAMBLA.
The age of consent should be 18 for everyone. What is the problem with that? We no longer live in an agrarian society where you need 20 kids so you have to start at 15. We live considerably longer as well, so lovers can enjoy each other's company for a lot longer, notwithstanding the wait. Of course over 1/2 of them will be divorced at some point, so maybe that's wrong.
To: LibertyRocks
I've got an easy answer for those experts... Too young is when you are not able to be personally responsible for the possible consequences of your actions .... That's it, in a nutshell.
17 posted on
07/18/2006 5:01:29 PM PDT by
Mr Ramsbotham
(Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
To: LibertyRocks; wagglebee
Too young is when you are not able to be personally responsible for the possible consequences of your actions (Physically, Financially, Emotionally, or otherwise). Good summary. My version is that you're old enough for sex when you are ready to be married, self-supporting parents to a baby.
20 posted on
07/18/2006 5:04:28 PM PDT by
Tax-chick
(Whiskey for my men, hyperbolic rodomontade for my horses.)
To: LibertyRocks
Too young is when you are not able to be personally responsible for the possible consequences of your actions (Physically, Financially, Emotionally, or otherwise) That would mean never for some people.
23 posted on
07/18/2006 5:15:49 PM PDT by
Graybeard58
(Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
To: LibertyRocks; Graybeard58; Tax-chick; Mr Ramsbotham
The real answer is the parents decide. until you are 18 years old, you are a minor and you really don't have much rights. It is the parents responsibility to both set the rules, and enforce them. Any parent that claims they can't control their teens is either an imbecile, or they aren't really trying.
As a parent, you always have one last ditch resort to fall back on. You can let your kid know that it is your legal right to get rid of any kid whenever you so wish it. No questions asked. Sign them over to the state and they become a ward of the state. Anything your kid thinks he/she owns is technically not his/her property. It is your property. And in many ways, that kid is also your property. If you choose to send the kid away to become a ward of the state, guess how much of that stuff the kid thinks is his/hers goes with him/her? The answer is none of it. They never see their room again. they never see you again, they never see any of their stuff again. Thats the way it is. Some kids should probably be made aware of it.
To: LibertyRocks
The socialist state doesn't believe in personal responsibility. The only "responsibility" is that the "haves" give up what's theirs for the "have nots" regardless of any actions or lack thereof from the "have nots".
55 posted on
07/18/2006 9:10:01 PM PDT by
weegee
(Merry Jo Kopechne Day!)
To: LibertyRocks
I've got an easy answer for those experts... Too young is when you are not able to be personally responsible for the possible consequences of your actions (Physically, Financially, Emotionally, or otherwise). This is regardless of one's spiritual or faith-based views on the subject.
Well put. If you ar not prepared to shoulder the responsibility of the product of your actions (i.e., caring for a child), you should not be bumping uglies. Not that it's going to stop 15 or 16 year old kids from having sex, or at least experimenting with it, but there you have it.
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