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7/18 Middle East Live Thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1666987/posts ^ | 7/18/06 | me

Posted on 07/17/2006 10:49:45 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

Israeli girls write messages on a shell at a heavy artillery position near Kiryat Shmona, in northern Israel, next to the Lebanese border, Monday, July 17, 2006


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; hezbollah; hizballah; hizbullah; iran; islam; israel; jihad; lebanon; middleeast; muhammadsminions; syria; terrorism; terrorists; ww3
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To: Peach

Iran says Hezbollah ready to attack US interests.

http://today.reuters.com/news/newsarticle.aspx?type=worldNews&storyid=2006-07-18T180844Z_01_OLI848020_RTRUKOC_0_US-MIDEAST-IRAN-HIZBOLLAH.xml&src=rss&rpc=22


761 posted on 07/18/2006 2:01:38 PM PDT by Peach (Prayers for our dear friends in Israel.)
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Arabs divided on Hezbollah over Israel

By DONNA ABU-NASR, Associated Press Writer


BEIRUT, Lebanon - When Israel withdrew from southern Lebanon six years ago, the Arab world showered Hezbollah with praise. Today, Arabs are deeply divided about the guerrilla group, with many vilifying it for provoking Israel's attack on Lebanon.

Backers, however, voice pride in Hezbollah's ability to fight back, landing missiles from its Iranian-supplied arsenal deep inside Israel.

The division springs from a reality that did not exist six years ago — the rise to power of Shiites in Iraq and increasing tension between Shiites and Sunnis.

In 2000, Hezbollah was held up by fellow Shiites as well as Sunnis and some Christians as a model for resisting Israel.

Arabs on the whole have felt a historic frustration over their inability to defeat Israel. Hezbollah's missile strikes deep inside Israel generate pride because they inflicted pain on an opponent with clear military superiority.

There is also a general reluctance among Arabs to criticize Hezbollah for fear of appearing to side with Israel.

Hezbollah and its leader, Hassan Nasrallah, represent "what is left of honor and dignity in times of submission," Sajed al-Abdali, a Kuwaiti and Sunni Islamist, wrote in a column Tuesday in Al-Rai Al-Amm newspaper.

Al-Abdali said "the cowards" who disapprove of Hezbollah should "just stay silent."

In Iraq, despite the raging sectarian conflict, Sunni university professor Mohammed Kanan al-Obeidi called Nasrallah "a remarkable leader in our time although he has links with Iran."

"By striking Israel, he has restored the glories of the old Muslims," said the 40-year-old al-Obeidi.

The Sunni minority in Iraq, which ran the country when Saddam was in power, is deeply suspicious of the majority Shiites now in power, fearing they will be puppets of Iran — a Persian nation that is overwhelmingly Shiite and run by a theocracy.

In Bahrain, Sunnis and Shiites set aside their differences to march in protest of Israel's attacks on Lebanon, waving placards emblazoned with Nasrallah's face.

"Beloved Nasrallah, hit Tel Aviv!" chanted the crowd, estimated at around 10,000 people.

But in Jordan, housewife Layla Nasser said Nasrallah's men acted with folly when they crossed into Israel and captured two soldiers, igniting the current conflict.

"He reminds me of Saddam Hussein, who dragged Iraq into several similar adventures which have led to the complete destruction of Iraq," she said.

"Nasrallah has done the same and is the cause of Lebanon's destruction," she added. "He is arrogant and irresponsible."

Munching on a salad at a Beirut restaurant, Lina, a Shiite banker who declined to give her last name for fear of Hezbollah retaliation, said the group had no right to drag the nation into war.

"In 2000, I supported it because it was a real resistance," she said. "But now I don't, and I don't see any heroism in what it's done so far."

Henry Kairouz, a 48-year-old businessman, said Hezbollah's actions were "cowardly."

"If Hezbollah considers itself a player in Lebanese politics and the government, why didn't it hand over the hostages to the Lebanese government to negotiate their fate?" he asked.

Hezbollah's political strength in Lebanon threatens the government's hold on power; its military power has made it impossible for the government and army to take control of the south.

Some Arabs who oppose Hezbollah say they feel torn when they see the damage and loss of life resulting from Israel's offensive.

In Dubai, Gilbert Gholam, 31, a Lebanese telecommunications worker, said he had no admiration for Hezbollah or its attacks. But Gholam said he was appalled by Israel's response and the lack of a global outcry.

"The Israelis aren't hurting Hezbollah. They're killing civilians and they are destroying Lebanon," Gholam said.

Mahmoud Ahmed, a 30-year-old Egyptian worker for a cable TV provider in Dubai, declared a pox on both Israel and Hezbollah.

"I disagree with both sides," Ahmed said, puffing on a cigarette. "They're killing innocent people. Who can agree with this?"

And Qenan al-Ghamdi, a columnist for the Saudi Al-Watan daily, said Hezbollah cannot stop the fight because it does not have the final say.

Many believe Syria and Iran, Hezbollah's sponsors, have a hand in Hezbollah's operation.

"Had Hezbollah been taking decisions on its own, it wouldn't have committed this stupidity," said al-Ghamdi. "It has lost the support it had. Today, it's facing a big catastrophe and it has dragged Lebanon into a bigger one."

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762 posted on 07/18/2006 2:02:43 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: harwood
The people (terrorists and terrorists sympathizers) on this website are all over the place. Some are attacking Saudi Arabia and Egypt for not supporting terrorist group Hizballah and some are saying that the Shia muslims (Hizballah is Muslim Shia) are friends of jews and christians.
763 posted on 07/18/2006 2:04:23 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

If they were there, they've probably been hit by now. Israel has been poundin' that valley.


764 posted on 07/18/2006 2:04:40 PM PDT by harwood (Ann Coulter: Future SCOTUS nominee!)
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To: TexKat

They're not too crazy about the nut in Tehran going nuclear.


765 posted on 07/18/2006 2:04:43 PM PDT by mainepatsfan
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To: Peach

Agreed Peach.


766 posted on 07/18/2006 2:04:53 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
If WMDs are in Lebanon....

And IDF finds them before they are used, will the left believe us even if they have Iraqi stamps on them

Perhaps WMDs are being bombed and this is causing some of the hospital cases the Lebanese keep talking about.
767 posted on 07/18/2006 2:05:59 PM PDT by NewConservTexan
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To: jveritas

Yes. I just saw a particular trend of unrest amongst fellow Mooselimbs. Did you get a chance to look at the chem/bio weapons post?


768 posted on 07/18/2006 2:06:40 PM PDT by harwood (Ann Coulter: Future SCOTUS nominee!)
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To: harwood

Unless they were buried or moved to Iran?


769 posted on 07/18/2006 2:07:07 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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770 posted on 07/18/2006 2:07:29 PM PDT by Godzilla (Evil can be defeated when the good are unafraid.)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

I would assume that's a safe assumption.


771 posted on 07/18/2006 2:08:30 PM PDT by harwood (Ann Coulter: Future SCOTUS nominee!)
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To: NewConservTexan

Do I believe the left would see the writing on the wall? No way... I think the Sheehan's of this country will see the nukes raining down on us and say "we need to be talking to these people." I wouldn't be shocked to see Chavez armed and aiming North before long.


772 posted on 07/18/2006 2:09:09 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: redgolum

That was Sodano...who says what he wants to say.


I don't know this for sure, but I have a hunch that beyond all the religious reasons for trying to dissuade people from war, a lot of the Vatican attitude is the fact that a lot of the senior people were boys during WWII and went through what a hard bad war can be like at an impressionable age. Actually a good thing in many ways, because sometimes we forget how hard it is for those caught in the crossfire.

But still, for every thing there is a season, and evil must be met in ways to keep it from destroying everything.


773 posted on 07/18/2006 2:09:11 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: harwood

I did not go through all the posts, but I will check again.


774 posted on 07/18/2006 2:10:16 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

00:00 Barrage of Katyusha rockets strikes Hula Valley in north (Ch. 10)
23:54 Bush says he suspects Syria is trying to reassert its influence in Lebanon (AP)
23:53 Israeli envoy to UN tells Fox News that Rice will visit region on Friday (Reuters)
23:20 Bush: It is essential that government of Lebanese PM Siniora survives (Reuters)
23:18 Lebanese government says it received no clear offer to end fighting (Reuters)


775 posted on 07/18/2006 2:10:17 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

LOL. Some attention is better than no attention.


776 posted on 07/18/2006 2:11:53 PM PDT by bwteim (bwteim = Begin With The End In Mind)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

00:00 Barrage of Katyusha rockets strikes Hula Valley in north (Ch. 10)

I need a geography lesson, i don't recall this area being struck before, where is it?


777 posted on 07/18/2006 2:13:31 PM PDT by jhp
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To: Txsleuth
Ibish is an unabashed terrorist sympathiser...he and Ibrahim Hooper are two peas in a pod. These guys will lie soon as look at you.

Hooper was asked whether or not CAIR was funded from overseas. He denied it emphatically and catagorically. He lied...they're received millions from terror supporting organizations in the UAE and elsewhere...

Whenever these two dirtbags are asked whether they condemn a terrorist attack, it's always "yes, but..."

They should be thrown out of the country or jailed.

778 posted on 07/18/2006 2:15:29 PM PDT by sofaman ("Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth." Franklin D. Roosevelt)
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To: jhp

It's north of the Sea of Gallilee. Once there was a lake up there.


779 posted on 07/18/2006 2:19:07 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Shqipo; BurbankKarl

>>>LA times says we are bogged down<<<
"--Is the rescue mission a Quagmire yet?"

Almost - MSM is working on it as you type.

Just a few minutes ago, our dear Chris "Round of Face Yet Harsh of Voice" Matthews led of with "some Americans [who waited to be rescued] are saying, "what took you so long?" "

The piece is coming up after the break now.


780 posted on 07/18/2006 2:22:18 PM PDT by bwteim (bwteim = Begin With The End In Mind)
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