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7/18 Middle East Live Thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1666987/posts ^ | 7/18/06 | me

Posted on 07/17/2006 10:49:45 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

Israeli girls write messages on a shell at a heavy artillery position near Kiryat Shmona, in northern Israel, next to the Lebanese border, Monday, July 17, 2006


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; hezbollah; hizballah; hizbullah; iran; islam; israel; jihad; lebanon; middleeast; muhammadsminions; syria; terrorism; terrorists; ww3
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To: rebel_yell2

Are you ready for a cruise?
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http://www.defenselink.mil/news/Jul2006/20060717_5677.html
"U.S. Contracts Cruise Ship For Possible Lebanon Evacuations"

By Gerry J. Gilmore
American Forces Press Service

WASHINGTON, July 17, 2006


41 posted on 07/17/2006 11:44:58 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: rebel_yell2
What the hell is taking so long?

I feel for you. I saw the footage of some of the French people leaving last night. The report siad (not that I assign much credibility to the media) that it might be three or four days before the U.S. citizens might be evacuated.

This is disgraceful. You guys should already be out.

42 posted on 07/17/2006 11:49:17 PM PDT by Allegra (FReeping LIVE! from suddenly one of the safer places in the Middle East)
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To: All

http://www.townhall.com/columnists/CalThomas/2006/07/18/understanding_the_temper_of_the_times

"Understanding the temper of the times"
By Cal Thomas


ARTICLE SNIPPET: "In chronicling the number of armed warriors who joined David at Hebron, there is this exquisite line: "All these men understood the temper of the times and knew the best course for Israel to take." (1 Chronicles 12:32, New Living Translation)

For roughly 4,000 years there has been "unrest" and war in the Middle East. It possibly began when the ancient Israelites drove out the Canaanites, Hittites, Hivites, Perizzites, Girgashites, Amorites and Jebusites. Modern Israel is attempting to drive out Hezbollah-ites, Hamas-ites, Islamic Jihad-ites and the rest.

Nothing has changed, except Israel may be in greater peril today than at any time in its modern history. "


43 posted on 07/17/2006 11:52:43 PM PDT by Cindy
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To: Allegra

The USS Gonzalez is in the area, and will escort the cruise ship....maybe a sub lurking (most likely) under water...they are waiting on the cruise ship...but they said it is going to have to make 10 trips or something.


44 posted on 07/17/2006 11:58:09 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

gonna turn in...thanks for the thread Karl..great work, as always. have a good night and see you in the am..


45 posted on 07/18/2006 12:02:05 AM PDT by sofaman ("Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth." Franklin D. Roosevelt)
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To: sofaman

Jul. 18, 2006 0:14
Pilot who bombed Nasrallah's bunker: 'We will get them all'
By YAAKOV KATZ
jpost.com

"We will get them all in the end," Capt. A, one of the pilots who bombed Hizbullah leader Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah's underground bunker Sunday night, declared on Monday, minutes before boarding an F-16I fighter jet on his way to another sortie over Lebanon.

On Saturday night, the IAF bombed and destroyed Nasrallah's home and office in the neighborhood of Dahiya in southern Beirut. Dahiya, a high-ranking IDF officer told The Jerusalem Post on Monday, was a Hizbullah stronghold and only terrorists affiliated with Hizbullah were allowed in and out. On Monday, the IAF continued to strike an underground bunker in Dahiya which was believed to be Nasrallah's current hideout.

"It is a closed-in terror capital," the officer said of Dahiya. "Only card-carrying Hizbullah operatives are allowed inside after passing through an armed checkpoint."

Nasrallah, the officer said, had been holed up in the bunker ever since the IAF began bombing Beirut last week. "He has not seen the light of day," a senior Military Intelligence officer told the Knesset's Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee on Monday.

IAF fighter jets from Squadron 101 have been running daily bomb raids on the bunker, the main Hizbullah nerve center. Since two soldiers were kidnapped in a Hizbullah attack along the northern border last Wednesday, the squadron has bombed hundreds of targets from the Hizbullah bunker to bridges, Katyusha rocket launchers and weapons warehouses. The IAF has been using bunker-busting missiles in its air raids on the Hizbullah bunker.

"The public should know that the air force is working hard and achieving the goals it has set for itself even though Katyusha rockets are falling in Israel," Capt. A. said. "The public should be calm... we will get them all [Hizbullah leaders] in the end, wherever they may be, since no terrorist has immunit


46 posted on 07/18/2006 12:07:41 AM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: justche

bookmarking for tomorrow morning.


47 posted on 07/18/2006 12:17:47 AM PDT by justche (If you're afraid of the future, then get out of the way, stand aside. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: rebel_yell2

That is the craps. Sorry to hear you are still in Lebanon.
I saw on TV British choppers taking 40 or so Americans out that had health problems.

FOX News right now is showing and interviewing the task force in the State Dept. to get you folks out.
I think one of the problems is getting cruise ships together and get them off coast.
Hang in there.


48 posted on 07/18/2006 12:18:10 AM PDT by SoCalPol (.We Need a Border Fence Now.)
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To: BurbankKarl

Ynet News is reporting that Iran is sending its foreign minister to Damascus to demand that Hezbollah curtail attacks against Israel and release the captured Israeli soldiers.

Evidently Iran has been warned that Israel is about to strike Syria and they are now asking Syria to step in and pressure Hezbollah in order to avoid such an escalation.

Anyone else heard this report yet?

http://www.ynetnews.com


49 posted on 07/18/2006 12:31:30 AM PDT by mcmac22
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To: mcmac22

that is some interesting news


50 posted on 07/18/2006 12:39:33 AM PDT by jhp
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To: jhp

70 Katyushas in Under an Hour; Only One Moderately Hurt
10:36 Jul 18, '06 / 22 Tammuz 5766
by Hillel Fendel

However, doesn't look like Hizbullah is just going to take this laying down


51 posted on 07/18/2006 12:47:01 AM PDT by jhp
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To: mcmac22

Haven't heard the report yet, but it'd be more of the play-acting we've become used to. Iran trying to distance itself from its own actions by telling Syria to do what Syria wants to do anyway. Yep... same old, same old.


52 posted on 07/18/2006 12:50:48 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: Cindy

"U.S. Contracts Cruise Ship For Possible Lebanon Evacuations"

I think we get a group rate with three. Two for Katrina, one for Lebanon.


53 posted on 07/18/2006 12:54:51 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: ArmstedFragg

well, its a little different than what we've been hearing publicly, that is Israel doesn't want to involve Syria, now this report says: Syria you are going to get hit if you don't call of your Hizbullah dogs


54 posted on 07/18/2006 12:56:15 AM PDT by jhp
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To: mcmac22; Southack
Evidently Iran has been warned that Israel is about to strike Syria and they are now asking Syria to step in and pressure Hezbollah in order to avoid such an escalation.

Thought you'd find this interesting. If true, this is very good news indeed. Link at post #49.

55 posted on 07/18/2006 1:02:53 AM PDT by Allegra (FReeping LIVE! from suddenly one of the safer places in the Middle East)
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To: Allegra; BurbankKarl
This item can be foound far down in an article on www.arutzsheva.com:

Hizbullah has rejected the proposal, however. While its arch-terrorist leader Sheikh Nasrallah remains trapped under the ruins of a building for the fourth day, a spokesman for the group, Hussein Haj Hassan, said the ideas were rejected because they include Israeli demands. Israel must cease its fire unconditionally, Hassan said.

Nasrallah appeared on Lebanese television screens on Sunday in a pre-recorded speech, warning Israel of "more surprises."

70 Katyushas in Under an Hour; Only One Moderately Hurt

Propaganda, psy-op, wishful thinking, or info from well connected sources?

56 posted on 07/18/2006 1:09:42 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: jhp
You know, the whole key to these people is finding a way to avoid offending their all-too-fragile egos. So, it has to look like some third party told Iran that those mean Israelis might blame things on Syria. That construction allows face-saving by all parties. Now Syria could put a stop to things because it wouldn't look like it was backing down to Israel. Instead, it can claim, it's voluntarily acting in brotherly concert with Iran.

The second recurring theme is the whole routine of claiming to be the innocent ones while simultaneously wielding the knife. Did you hear the head Hizzie yesterday announcing how HIS troups were being very careful to avoid injuring civilians? He did this at the same time they were indiscriminately rocketing civilian areas.

So, here you have a situation where Iran, instigator of the whole thing, can collect the world's approval for acting like the peace-keeper. And, of course, when the nuke issue comes up, their standing in the eyes of the world has been elevated by this whole ploy.

The thing that amazes me is that the pattern's been so consistent for so long, they have to be convinced that we're really idiots, since the media and most of the world just keep falling for it.
57 posted on 07/18/2006 1:09:52 AM PDT by ArmstedFragg
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To: ArmstedFragg
Haaretz:

11:00 Alert siren sounds in Haifa; residents instructed to enter protected rooms (Israel Radio)
10:31 Police arrest 2 Umm al-Fahm men suspected of blowing up jeep in Ramat Gan (Itim)
10:23 Dichter: The day will come when we will have to consider prisoner swap (Army Radio)
10:02 IAF strike kills five Lebanese soldiers, wounds 41 near Beirut (AP)
09:58 India evacuates 49 citizens from Lebanon (AP)
09:50 Police arrest 26 Palestinians who entered Israel without permits (Itim)
09:47 French evacuees arrive in Cyprus from Lebanon (Reuters)
09:20 IDF troops operating across West Bank encounter gunfire; no casualties (Itim)
58 posted on 07/18/2006 1:14:08 AM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: ScaniaBoy; BurbankKarl
Propaganda, psy-op, wishful thinking, or info from well connected sources?

That's what gets confusing with all of this information that's coming out. It's hard to tell what's propaganda and what's truth.

Israel isn't going to cease fire unconditionally, though. And they shouldn't.

59 posted on 07/18/2006 1:16:40 AM PDT by Allegra (FReeping LIVE! from suddenly one of the safer places in the Middle East)
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To: ArmstedFragg

I believe you're right.


60 posted on 07/18/2006 1:19:57 AM PDT by Cindy
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