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7/16 Middle East Live Thread
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1666163/posts ^ | 7/16/06 | me

Posted on 07/15/2006 11:24:32 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

09:19 MDA: More than 20 people hurt in Katyusha rocket strike in Haifa (Channel 2)

09:16 Residents of Acre, Haifa and its suburbs told to enter bomb shelters (Israel Radio)

09:15 Tenth Katyusha rocket lands in Haifa (Israel Radio)

09:15 Explosions heard in Rosh Hanikra (Israel Radio)

09:11 Katyusha rockets hit Acre and suburbs around Haifa Bay (Channel 2)

09:06 Report: Three to five explosion heard in central Haifa (Israel Radio)

08:47 Chirac: Forces threatening Lebanon`s security, sovereignty must be stopped (AP)

08:41 Sgt. Tal Amgar killed on Navy ship to be buried 16.00 Sun. at Ashdod cemetery (Itim)

08:39 Chirac calls for `show of moderation` in Lebanon, says cease-fire needed (Reuters)

08:37 IDF denies report of air raid on power station south of Beirut (Haaretz)

08:36 Hezbollah says it fought off attempt by IDF ground forces to cross Lebanese border (AP)

08:35 Bush urges Israel `to be mindful of the consequences` of its military actions (AP)

08:19 Jewish man arrested after threatening to stab Palestinians in J`lem`s Old City (Itim)

08:15 Al Manar: Nasrallah to give an interview later Sunday to prove he`s well (Israel Radio)


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; islam; melivethread; middleeast; muhammadsminions; ww3; wwiii
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To: prairiebreeze

Wow...great links, prairie, thanks.


1,441 posted on 07/16/2006 12:39:13 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: SE Mom; All
A little more info:

US plans $A280m jet fuel sale to Israel

$280 million, I presume

1,442 posted on 07/16/2006 12:39:30 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (I am a proud friend of Israel.)
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To: prairiebreeze

Double that number:
http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3276876,00.html

600 hospitalized since the beginning of conflict

Ministry of Health data shows that since the beginning of the conflict in the Israeli northern border, some 600 people have been hospitalized. 42 of them are still in hospitals; three in serious condition, five in moderate condition, and 34 in light condition. (Meital Yasur Bet-Or)
(07.16.06, 21:29)


1,443 posted on 07/16/2006 12:39:34 PM PDT by RDTF ("We love death. The US loves life. That is the big difference between us two.” Osama Bin laden)
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To: RDTF
You've probably already answered this, but can you get Fox there?

We can. In my room, though, I can't. But the IT Manager (and good friend) has promised to come program my TV peoperly so that I'll get it. (I'm an idiot when it comes to things like that.)

All I have for a news channel in my room right now is CNN International.

And that's unacceptable.

1,444 posted on 07/16/2006 12:40:04 PM PDT by Allegra (FReeping LIVE! from suddenly one of the safer places in the Middle East)
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To: BurbankKarl
U.S. citizens exit a U.S. Marine Corps CH-53 helicopter in Cyprus following their transportation from the U.S. Embassy in Beirut, Lebanon, July 16, 2006.

From the prior reports of them having "pre-existing medical problems", they certainly look healthy enough.

1,445 posted on 07/16/2006 12:40:05 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: Txsleuth

welcome...:^)


1,446 posted on 07/16/2006 12:40:38 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (I am a proud friend of Israel.)
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To: Rain-maker

Thank you.


1,447 posted on 07/16/2006 12:41:09 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Chuck54; blu
Yes, ORANGE! Only ONE YEAR ago ...
Israeli activists who oppose their country’s withdrawal from the occupied Gaza Strip cover their mouths with an orange ribbon, a symbol of anti-disengagement protest in Israel, in front of the defense minister’s office in Jerusalem July 25. Numerous protests in support of Jewish settlers in Gaza continue to occur throughout the country.
1,449 posted on 07/16/2006 12:41:31 PM PDT by bvw
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To: mtbopfuyn

They look like State Dept employees and family to me


1,450 posted on 07/16/2006 12:41:33 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: RDTF

even worse then.....:^(


1,451 posted on 07/16/2006 12:41:39 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (I am a proud friend of Israel.)
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To: mtbopfuyn

I was thinking the same thing. Maybe they are the non essential embassy workers or family members


1,452 posted on 07/16/2006 12:41:47 PM PDT by RDTF ("We love death. The US loves life. That is the big difference between us two.” Osama Bin laden)
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To: mtbopfuyn
(AP) Heroic fighters to some, dangerous militia to others. The bloody fight that Hezbollah picked with Israel has deepened a longtime divide in Lebanon.

While Hezbollah supporters celebrated in the streets, other Lebanese were furious at being dragged into a costly confrontation with the Jewish state.

"I don't support Hezbollah's operation at all because it gives a pretext for Israeli aggression on Lebanon," said Ibrahim al-Hajj, 50, a Christian Maronite who owns a shoe store in the southern village of Qleia. "As long as Hezbollah has its weapons and acts according to its leader's whims, there is pretext for Israel to keep on destroying Lebanon."

More found here

1,453 posted on 07/16/2006 12:42:47 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: SE Mom
Allegra! You were "hoe"? Should you be sharing that kind of info with us?

HAHAHA...it's late here. And my typing sucks. ;-)

1,454 posted on 07/16/2006 12:43:24 PM PDT by Allegra (FReeping LIVE! from suddenly one of the safer places in the Middle East)
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Bookmark (to mow lawn in 101 deg. heat index)


1,455 posted on 07/16/2006 12:43:25 PM PDT by 2111USMC
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To: Fitzcarraldo

"The Supreme Leader says..The Supreme Leaders says..." Reminds me of Der Sturmer and "The Fuhrer says.."


1,456 posted on 07/16/2006 12:43:32 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: jeffers

haaretz.com

What's behind the Navy's failure?

By Yossi Melman

The heads of Israel's Navy will have to figure out whether the failure on Friday night resulted form an intelligence problem or complacency - or maybe both.

When a Saar-5 Class Destroyer, INS Spear, was hit by a missile launched by Hezbollah, the incident could have ended with severe results, including the sinking of the ship. Four of the personnel on board were initially reported missing; since then, one body has been identified.

The missile that struck the INS Spear has a warhead weighing 100 kilograms, hardened and programmed to explode after it penetrates the hull. The damage it caused could have been much more lethal: Luckily the aviation fuel INS Spear carries for its on-board helicopter did not explode.


According to a senior Israel Defense Forces source, the missile that struck the ship was a Chinese-made, radar-guided cruise missile with a 100-kg warhead, the C-802, an upgraded version of the C-701. Both types have been in the arsenal of Iran's Navy for at least seven years. The range of the missile does not exceed 35 kilometers, and at the time of the attack the INS Spear was operating at a distance of 16 kilometers from the Lebanese shores.

The missile can be launched from ship, aircraft and land, and Chinese sources claim that it has electronic counter-measures that disrupt radar defenses of targets as they try to lock on to the incoming C-802. This may explain the failure of INS Spear to shoot the missile down.

In the past, INS ships have been hit by shore-based gunfire, without any serious damage. This is the first time that a missile scored a hit against a modern Israeli missile boat.

Following the Six-Day War Egyptian missile boats managed to sink the INS Eilat using Soviet-made Styx missiles in a well-orchestrated ambush off the Sinai peninsula. Since, the Israel Navy has excelled in developing both advanced fighting doctrines in the use of missile boats and technologies, which it also exported around the world. The attack on INS Spear could also damage the reputation of the Israel Navy and harm naval-related defense exports.

The INS Spear is one of three Saar-5 Class warships, which is larger than a corvette and is one the most advanced warships in Israel's naval arsenal. They were built in Pascagoula, Mississippi, by Northrop-Grumman shipyards, using U.S. military aid funds. The INS Spear entered operational service in 1995.

The defense suit of the Saar-5 destroyers is made in its entirety by Israel defense industries. Each vessel displaces approximately 1,300 tons, has a crew of 64, and is capable of independent operations for about 20 days without resupply. The ships are capable of carrying up to two helicopters, in addition to intelligence and air force personnel.

Three of the victims of the attack were air force and intelligence personnel, suggesting that the role of the ship was that of forward controller for the naval blockade imposed since the start of the operation against Hezbollah on Wednesday night.

The strength of the Saar-5 Class lies in its fighting systems and these should have provided it with adequate protection against the C-802. Its electronic countermeasures, made by Rafael, should have enabled it to identify and locate the incoming missile. This is particularly true in the case of the Chinese-made missile that is radar-guided, which constantly emits electronic signals making it easier to see on radar.

The first line of defense would have been electronic counter-measures that would have disrupted the radar guidance of the missile, and then an anti-missile missile, that can shoot down the incoming threat. As a last resort, the Vulcan close-defense system would have destroyed the C-802 at ranges under two kilometers.

Clearly all these systems failed and the question that remains is: Why? Was there intelligence information that was not passed on to INS Spear, as in the case of the luckless INS Eilat? Even if intelligence was not available, the crew was taking part in combat operations and should have been on high alert for any eventuality.

For three decades Israel's Navy has had complete mastery of the area between Libya and Syria, and Naval officers say that the prevailing sense was that "no one can harm us." Could the results of Friday night's attack have been the result of complacency?


1,457 posted on 07/16/2006 12:43:33 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: KJC1

Nice find!


1,458 posted on 07/16/2006 12:44:14 PM PDT by michigander (The Constitution only guarantees the right to pursue happiness. You have to catch it yourself.)
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To: bvw
Israeli activists who oppose their country’s withdrawal from the occupied Gaza Strip cover their mouths with an orange ribbon, a symbol of anti-disengagement protest in Israel, in front of the defense minister’s office in Jerusalem July 25. Numerous protests in support of Jewish settlers in Gaza continue to occur throughout the country.

How many Israelis will listen to those loonly leftists now?

1,459 posted on 07/16/2006 12:44:21 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: mfccinsd
They are out of food and diapers, despite having had a stockpile sufficient for close to a week themselves

Prayers for them.

However, I can't believe they only had food and diapers for a week and on top of that are out already. What's with people now days who don't know enough to keep a well stocked pantry? Sure, it might not be for a war, but there's always the potential for a job loss or illness that when having a stocked pantry would be one less worry. Surely they know how to fashion diapers out of towels.

1,460 posted on 07/16/2006 12:46:08 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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