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US 'could be going bankrupt'
U.K. Telegraph ^ | 7-14-06 | Edmund Conway

Posted on 07/15/2006 9:54:37 AM PDT by Babu

The United States is heading for bankruptcy, according to an extraordinary paper published by one of the key members of the country's central bank.

A ballooning budget deficit and a pensions and welfare timebomb could send the economic superpower into insolvency, according to research by Professor Laurence Kotlikoff for the Federal Reserve Bank of St Louis, a leading constituent of the US Federal Reserve.

Prof Kotlikoff said that, by some measures, the US is already bankrupt. "To paraphrase the Oxford English Dictionary, is the United States at the end of its resources, exhausted, stripped bare, destitute, bereft, wanting in property, or wrecked in consequence of failure to pay its creditors," he asked.

According to his central analysis, "the US government is, indeed, bankrupt, insofar as it will be unable to pay its creditors, who, in this context, are current and future generations to whom it has explicitly or implicitly promised future net payments of various kinds''.

The budget deficit in the US is not massive. The Bush administration this week cut its forecasts for the fiscal shortfall this year by almost a third, saying it will come in at 2.3pc of gross domestic product. This is smaller than most European countries - including the UK - which have deficits north of 3pc of GDP.

Prof Kotlikoff, who teaches at Boston University, says: "The proper way to consider a country's solvency is to examine the lifetime fiscal burdens facing current and future generations. If these burdens exceed the resources of those generations, get close to doing so, or simply get so high as to preclude their full collection, the country's policy will be unsustainable and can constitute or lead to national bankruptcy.

"Does the United States fit this bill? No one knows for sure, but there are strong reasons to believe the United States may be going broke."

Experts have calculated that the country's long-term "fiscal gap" between all future government spending and all future receipts will widen immensely as the Baby Boomer generation retires, and as the amount the state will have to spend on healthcare and pensions soars. The total fiscal gap could be an almost incomprehensible $65.9 trillion, according to a study by Professors Gokhale and Smetters.

The figure is massive because President George W Bush has made major tax cuts in recent years, and because the bill for Medicare, which provides health insurance for the elderly, and Medicaid, which does likewise for the poor, will increase greatly due to demographics.

Prof Kotlikoff said: "This figure is more than five times US GDP and almost twice the size of national wealth. One way to wrap one's head around $65.9trillion is to ask what fiscal adjustments are needed to eliminate this red hole. The answers are terrifying. One solution is an immediate and permanent doubling of personal and corporate income taxes. Another is an immediate and permanent two-thirds cut in Social Security and Medicare benefits. A third alternative, were it feasible, would be to immediately and permanently cut all federal discretionary spending by 143pc."

The scenario has serious implications for the dollar. If investors lose confidence in the US's future, and suspect the country may at some point allow inflation to erode away its debts, they may reduce their holdings of US Treasury bonds.

Prof Kotlikoff said: "The United States has experienced high rates of inflation in the past and appears to be running the same type of fiscal policies that engendered hyperinflations in 20 countries over the past century."

Paul Ashworth, of Capital Economics, was more sanguine about the coming retirement of the Baby Boomer generation. "For a start, the expected deterioration in the Federal budget owes more to rising per capita spending on health care than to changing demographics," he said.

"This can be contained if the political will is there. Similarly, the expected increase in social security spending can be controlled by reducing the growth rate of benefits. Expecting a fix now is probably asking too much of short-sighted politicians who have no incentives to do so. But a fix, or at least a succession of patches, will come when the problem becomes more pressing."


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To: Babu

As long as we have the Democrats and RINO's in Congress, the US cannot go bankrupt. Well, the government, that is. All they will do is keep raising taxes buying votes and bankrupt the citizenry instead.

Yes, it's sarcasm.


181 posted on 07/16/2006 12:19:40 AM PDT by DakotaRed
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To: cinives

Well the 2nd part I would agree with. But I do not agree with you that raising the SSRA from 65 to 67 is dishonest as the purpose of SS was to help the elderly and as humans live longer, the age of the elder will continue to climb.


182 posted on 07/16/2006 7:55:28 AM PDT by rb22982
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To: Babu; dennisw

This guy is absolutely correct. Got gold???


183 posted on 07/16/2006 6:00:06 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: Babu
We can start by keeping some of the "poor" on Medicaid out of the emergency room for their customary twice a week trip. I work in a pharmacy, and I'm not exaggerating. We have the usual suspects we get to know.

That, and eliminate $0.00 copays for their medicine. There's no incentive for them to exercise restraint under the current system, and they're not held accountable like those with private insurance would be (I've heard of insurance companies sending "cease-and-desist" letters of sorts to emergency room violators).

We had a lady come in the other day with an emergency room prescription for a cream because her kid had a minor rash. Most people would just drive to a 24-hour drug or grocery store and pick up something there. But then again, they'd have to pay for it.

Now I'm seeing $0.00 copays on over-the-counter medicines, and there's no end in sight. I've had people complain that they have to pay $2.00 for their higher-cost medicine. I stop them by telling them that my copay is $45.00 for the same thing, and thus I have no sympathy (I don't say that, though).

A lady came in the other day and paid $5.00 for $850.00 worth of prescriptions. Of course, she complained. It's just out-of-hand.

Call me cold-hearted, but if you saw the junk I have to deal with, you would push to revamp Medicaid immediately.
184 posted on 07/16/2006 6:31:50 PM PDT by scott7278 (The War on Terror includes defending the homefront from the MSM.)
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To: Babu
Obviously the author does not understand that history has shown that tax cuts increase returns to the Treasury,

Then that would put him in agreement with President Reagan's economists, who didn't believe it either. What they did say is that tax cuts wouldn't lose as much revenue as static analysis predicted. Growth recovered about 2/3 of each dollar cut, which is line with their predictions.

185 posted on 07/16/2006 6:44:37 PM PDT by Pelham (McGuestWorkerProgram- Soon to serve over 1 billion Americans)
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To: patton

SS is a pass-through system, always has been. The goal has been to achieve a balance between payments and withdrawals. A surplus in the Social Security fund acts as a drag on the economy.


186 posted on 07/16/2006 6:50:44 PM PDT by Pelham (McGuestWorkerProgram- Soon to serve over 1 billion Americans)
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To: DakotaGator
The Laffer Curve is real! The professor either doesn't admit it or get it.

He gets it. But since he reads economic studies he's aware that the only tax cut that 'paid for itself' was the capital gains reduction of 1978. The other cuts achieved the goal of stimulating the economy, but at some reduction in Treasury revenue. Treasury revenues aren't solely affected by tax cuts. Defecit spending, the business cycle, and the natural growth path of the economy also contribute to increases in Treasury revenue, and are accounted for in any study other than the "everybody knows" versions that get endlessly repeated here.

187 posted on 07/16/2006 7:03:39 PM PDT by Pelham (McGuestWorkerProgram- Soon to serve over 1 billion Americans)
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To: Pelham

And, do you think we have a balance between payments and withdrawels?


188 posted on 07/16/2006 7:51:15 PM PDT by patton (LGOPs = head toward the noise, kill anyone not dressed like you.)
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To: patton

I haven't paid attention recently. For a time we were running a surplus, and that excess was 'invested' in Treasuries created to sop up the surplus, and this permitted Congress to spend that excess.

If I recall correctly, during Johnson's Presidency there was a surplus and the solution then was to lower SS taxes so that excess money wasn't taken from working incomes in the first place. It's a strange world when LBJ's era looks more conservative than the present time when the GOP is in control of Congress and the WH. It speaks volumes about what passes as "conservative" today.


189 posted on 07/16/2006 8:06:58 PM PDT by Pelham (McGuestWorkerProgram- Soon to serve over 1 billion Americans)
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To: GodGunsGuts
This report looks like it agrees with the premise of The Great Reckoning from a few years back. A good book for a broad view of some economic trends that could spell trouble.
190 posted on 07/16/2006 8:11:06 PM PDT by Pelham (McGuestWorkerProgram- Soon to serve over 1 billion Americans)
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To: Pelham
Ah. Well. I am 43 years old, and in every year of my life, the SS admin has collected more than it has paid out. The surplus was promptly spent by congress.

43 years - never once has a dime been set aside.

In fact, to anyone but a moron, the idea that congress is collecting advance payments is a joke. They are just collecting more money, to spend, today.

Again, there is no SS trust fund.

191 posted on 07/16/2006 8:13:24 PM PDT by patton (LGOPs = head toward the noise, kill anyone not dressed like you.)
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To: Pelham

Just imagine what will happen to interest rates when foreigners realize what bad shape we are in and stop buying US bonds and treasuries (and all that that implies).


192 posted on 07/16/2006 8:14:19 PM PDT by GodGunsGuts
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To: GodGunsGuts

I think we are already seeing the beginning of that. The dollar has been weakening for some time. Some central banks are looking to use the Euro as a reserve currency alongside or instead of the dollar.


193 posted on 07/16/2006 8:40:22 PM PDT by Pelham (McGuestWorkerProgram- Soon to serve over 1 billion Americans)
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To: patton

You're either a tail-end 'boomer or a post-boomer- either way you are indeed screwed.

Save what you can, invest for your retirement. Times could be pretty tough when you look to retire.


194 posted on 07/16/2006 8:45:14 PM PDT by Pelham (McGuestWorkerProgram- Soon to serve over 1 billion Americans)
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To: mkjessup

Ronald Reagan said he wasn't worried about the national debt, it was big enough to take care of itself.


195 posted on 07/16/2006 8:47:54 PM PDT by television is just wrong (our sympathies are misguided with illegal aliens...)
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To: patton

'Setting aside' of SS funds doesn't really work, anyway. That's a sort of money-illusion- stacks of dollars are too vulnerable to losing their value through inflation, especially in the post-Breton Woods monetary regime. What you need is money invested in something that will provide you income when you retire, and you need to be planning for that yesterday. IRAs, 401k's, mutual funds, rental property, there's a number of options, and a lot of sources to educate yourself on how to do it.


196 posted on 07/16/2006 8:52:04 PM PDT by Pelham (McGuestWorkerProgram- Soon to serve over 1 billion Americans)
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To: television is just wrong

I'd be curious to see that claim sourced- I doubt its accuracy. I recall Reagan chastising Carter for increasing the debt.


197 posted on 07/16/2006 8:55:03 PM PDT by Pelham (McGuestWorkerProgram- Soon to serve over 1 billion Americans)
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To: operation clinton cleanup
I propose we put such funds in something I like to call a "lock box".

That is what Prime Minister Pitt did in England, after the Napoleonic wars. Britain had hopeless debts, which was addressed by what was called a 'sinking fund' - taxes for that debt only. So they got out of it, over a generation. Nations which repudiated their debts, such as Spain, ended up in penury.

198 posted on 07/16/2006 8:57:35 PM PDT by BlackVeil
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