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7/15 Middle East Live Thread
7/14 Middle East Live Thread ^ | 7/16/06 | Various

Posted on 07/15/2006 5:35:46 AM PDT by Solson

I thought this could be a new thread for today. BurbankKarl's thread did well yesterday.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Business/Economy; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; islam; melivethread; middleeast; muhammadsminions; rebelyell2; ww3; wwiii
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To: BurbankKarl

Dang...do they have a different calendar over there???

Friday, July 17th??


1,101 posted on 07/15/2006 3:57:33 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: prairiebreeze

1,102 posted on 07/15/2006 3:59:04 PM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: rebel_yell2

hang in there rebel...I have faith that the US wants you out, and the Israelis don't want you hurt...we're praying for you and look forward to seeing you back here..


1,103 posted on 07/15/2006 3:59:39 PM PDT by sofaman ("Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth." Franklin D. Roosevelt)
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To: RDTF; Krodg
Israeli troops move back into Gaza - CNN

JERUSALEM (CNN) -- The Israel Defense Forces re-entered northern Gaza late Saturday, Israeli military sources said.

The troops entered near the town of Beit Hanoun, The Associated Press reported.

1,104 posted on 07/15/2006 4:00:08 PM PDT by TexKat
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To: BurbankKarl

Is the Silkworm technology some of the stuff Clinton Admin gave to China.


1,105 posted on 07/15/2006 4:01:39 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: gregwest

Thank you so much for you post! Helps alot.


1,106 posted on 07/15/2006 4:03:41 PM PDT by Miztiki (Pearland, TX)
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To: Arizona Carolyn

Jennifer Griffin just said that the people of Tel Aviv have been told that they are in range of some of the missles that Hezbollah have...yikes.


1,107 posted on 07/15/2006 4:04:01 PM PDT by Txsleuth
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To: Arizona Carolyn

well, the US educated the designer...

from wikipedia

The Silkworm was developed at the Institute of Mechanics under Tsien Hsue-shen, a Chinese scientist who did his graduate studies at MIT and Caltech, before being deported by the United States in 1955 after being suspected of Communist ties. A book about this scientist's life was written by Iris Chang, entitled "Thread of the Silkworm."

The Silkworm gained fame in the 1980s when it was used by both sides in the Iran-Iraq War; both countries were supplied by China. More recently, the missile was used by Iraq in the 2003 Iraq War.

In March 1988, China agreed to stop supplying Iran with HY-2 missiles, though it is reported that supply continued into 1989. Iran has since developed the capability to manufacture these missiles itself.

In July 2006, it was reported that Hezbollah guerillas fired a "Silkworm missile" at an "Israeli battleship" off the shores of Lebanon. However this seems to be a typical case of media confusion over the term "Silkworm" as Israeli sources have said that the missile used was an Iranian-sourced C-802. At any rate, the damaged vessel was a Sa'ar 5 corvette, the most modern surface combatant in the Israeli Navy, and would have had little trouble dealing with a HY-series missile. Notably, Syria employed "Styx" missiles against Israeli warships in the 1973 Battle of Latakia with no success at all.

While it is not a particularly sophisticated missile when compared to others such as the Exocet, the Silkworm's unusually large warhead ensures that a single hit will inflict very serious damage.


1,108 posted on 07/15/2006 4:04:35 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Peach

Peach wrote:

14 July 2006: As the war in the Middle East is on track to exceed anything we have seen in our
generation, the findings of current surveillance operations of suspected Islamic terror operatives inside the
United States show concurrent “significant changes,” according to one well-placed federal intelligence
source. It is no secret that physical and electronic surveillance has been in place on those individuals and
groups inside of the U.S. since we were attacked. A report from our source states that there have been
numerous reports from field operatives of “significant behavioral and pattern changes” by those who have
suspected ties to Middle East terror groups. “Electronic intercepts of communications of interest
submitted for priority processing have also significantly increased,” although our source declined to
provide any specific details of these intercepts.

“The latest results of physical surveillance operations have also shown disturbing behavioral and pattern
changes of the surveillance subjects,” according to our source. “There seems to be a definite connection
between the events taking place in the Middle East with the level of activity of suspected terrorist
operatives inside the U.S. Although not totally unexpected, extra vigilance is definitely required by us in
the U.S. as well as our assets abroad.”

http://www.homelandsecurityus.com/site/modules/news/article.php?storyid=411





ping

one vote for the Axis going big...

not conclusive, I'd expect any politicall aware types to become more active at a time like this, but this report says they are triggering the libraries, the databases of words designated to generate flags in broadband sweeps...

Eyes wide open, lock and load.


1,109 posted on 07/15/2006 4:04:51 PM PDT by jeffers
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To: Txsleuth

now KRLA is playing cooking!


1,110 posted on 07/15/2006 4:06:51 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: BurbankKarl

Jennifer Griffin just did a report on this on Fox, she reported they are saying (now) their radar jamming equipment wasn't turned on because they didn't think Hezbollah had these missiles. Wonder what else they have we don't know about?


1,111 posted on 07/15/2006 4:07:33 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: Miztiki

The government is like the people.


1,112 posted on 07/15/2006 4:07:39 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker! (Charlie Mike, son))
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To: prairiebreeze
Haifa and Tiberius are about the same latitude. Carmiel is north approx equidistant from both
1,113 posted on 07/15/2006 4:07:56 PM PDT by sofaman ("Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth." Franklin D. Roosevelt)
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To: AliVeritas

Have you seen this from Betsy Newmark?

Iran and NoKo are closer than we think.

http://betsyspage.blogspot.com/2006/07/this-is-scary.html


1,114 posted on 07/15/2006 4:08:15 PM PDT by saveliberty (I'm a Bushbot and a Snowflake :-)
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To: Arizona Carolyn
Did she also say that Haifa was hit with Patriot missiles? Did I hear correctly?
1,115 posted on 07/15/2006 4:08:50 PM PDT by CAluvdubya (What's so hard to understand about the word illegal?)
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To: Txsleuth; rebel_yell2

You can give us first hand reports to help settle your nerves until the government can get you out.


1,116 posted on 07/15/2006 4:09:12 PM PDT by Arizona Carolyn
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To: CAluvdubya

No, they deployed Patriot missiles in Haifa....


1,117 posted on 07/15/2006 4:09:24 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: RobFromGa; Peach; Mo1
Fascinating analysis! Ping to Rob's post 1052!

These paragraphs gave me pause to consider:

The problem is this: While Syria does not want to get hit and will not make overt moves, so long as the Syrians cannot guarantee supplies will not reach Hezbollah or that Hezbollah won't be given sanctuary in Syria, Israel cannot complete its mission of shattering Hezbollah and withdrawing. They could be drawn into an Iraq-like situation that they absolutely don't want. Israel is torn. On the one hand, it wants to crush Hezbollah, and that requires total isolation. On the other hand, it does not want the Syrian regime to fall. What comes after would be much worse from Israel's point of view.

This is the inherent problem built into Israel's strategy, and what gives Hezbollah some hope. If Israel does not attack Syria, Hezbollah could well survive Israel's attack by moving across the border. No matter how many roads are destroyed, Israel won't be able to prevent major Hezbollah formations moving across the border. If they do attack Syria and crush al Assad's government, Hezbollah could come out of this stronger than ever.

Many of us have been thinking of Syria as the unknown element up until know. But I never considered Assad's army failing or government falling and I wonder how realistic that is...

1,118 posted on 07/15/2006 4:10:10 PM PDT by prairiebreeze (I am a proud friend of Israel.)
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To: Txsleuth

Hugh Hewitt on here....

http://www.mainstreamnetwork.com/listen/player.asp?station=wwtc-am

I cant believe KRLA went to italian cooking show! Hugh is harder to find than real time military comms.


1,119 posted on 07/15/2006 4:10:10 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Txsleuth

lovely


1,120 posted on 07/15/2006 4:10:21 PM PDT by sofaman ("Repetition does not transform a lie into a truth." Franklin D. Roosevelt)
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