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7/14: Middle East Live Thread
7/15/06 | me

Posted on 07/14/2006 6:08:50 PM PDT by BurbankKarl

Israeli gunners cover their ears as an artillery piece fires into southern Lebanon from a position on the border near Kiryat Shmona, northern Israel, Friday, July 14, 2006.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2006israelwar; israel; melivethread; middleeast; ww3
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To: DCPatriot

Israeli artillery units fire shells toward Hezbollah targets in southern Lebanon from a staging area near the border. The Lebanese government has called for a cease-fire, but says it has no control over Hezbollah.

1,101 posted on 07/15/2006 7:01:37 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: Bean Counter
I was going off of what another FReeper said about it being a Silkworm missile.

I don't know what it was...we have enough problems here of our own.

I'll let the people sitting comfortably home in the safety of the States disseminate all of that information.

What I don't need right now are lectures.

1,102 posted on 07/15/2006 7:02:46 AM PDT by Allegra (FReeping LIVE! from suddenly one of the safer places in the Middle East)
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To: MinorityRepublican

A police officer runs toward the site of a rocket strike in Nahariya, Israel. Police said five Katyusha rockets landed in the town.

1,103 posted on 07/15/2006 7:02:53 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: MinorityRepublican

A large crater disrupts foot and vehicle traffic in a Beirut residential neighborhood. Overnight airstrikes by Israel Defense Forces killed three and wounded 55, police said.

1,104 posted on 07/15/2006 7:03:32 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: MinorityRepublican
WHy in the hell hasn't the USA given laser-guided technology to Israel. It should keep civilian casualities to a minimum.

Those artillary units can't be that accurate...it's like a glorified motar round...isn't it?

1,105 posted on 07/15/2006 7:03:55 AM PDT by DCPatriot ("It aint what you don't know that kills you. It's what you know that aint so" Theodore Sturgeon)
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To: MinorityRepublican

What just happened? The locking of the 7/16 thread is creating some confusion on my end.


1,106 posted on 07/15/2006 7:03:59 AM PDT by Sunshine55 (What's the difference between Hillary and God? God doesn't think he's Hillary.)
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To: ohioWfan
Did that just happen? I haven't turned the TV on yet.

DON'T!!

;-)

1,107 posted on 07/15/2006 7:04:14 AM PDT by Allegra (FReeping LIVE! from suddenly one of the safer places in the Middle East)
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To: All

Ok, so I guess that we have moved. (Or been moved, I should say, sigh)


1,108 posted on 07/15/2006 7:04:18 AM PDT by carmenbmw (My cats name is Mean. He earned it.)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Lebanese youths look at damage to a bridge in Sidon, Lebanon, after it was attacked by Israeli aircraft.

1,109 posted on 07/15/2006 7:04:25 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: Sunshine55
What just happened? The locking of the 7/16 thread is creating some confusion on my end.

It is still 7/15 here, the mods just want to consolidate the responses to this thread for now.

1,110 posted on 07/15/2006 7:05:18 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: MinorityRepublican

Go to: Israeli gunners turn away from the shock wave as an artillery piece fires into southern Lebanon from a position near Kiryat Shmona, in northern Israel.

1,111 posted on 07/15/2006 7:06:01 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: MinorityRepublican

People rushing to leave Lebanon create a traffic jam at the al-Masnaa checkpoint on the Syrian border.

1,112 posted on 07/15/2006 7:06:35 AM PDT by MinorityRepublican (Everyone that doesn't like what America and President Bush has done for Iraq can all go to HELL)
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To: All

They should have locked 7/15 and kept 7/16 - one new thread per day - - these threads could grow to 100,000 posts or more, IMHO.


1,113 posted on 07/15/2006 7:07:27 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: Bean Counter
The point is, you aren't going to smuggle one into your country like a case of RPG's. Silkworms require a launcher and support vehicle, and are quite different from a Katushka rocket, and would represent another major escalation of this whole conflict.

Irael is already saying that there are hundreds of Iranians in Lebanon providing support for Hezbollah. It wouldn't have been hard to ship in a few Silkworms (unassembled) on Iranian transport flights and have Iranian techs assemble them and set them up for firing

1,114 posted on 07/15/2006 7:09:59 AM PDT by SauronOfMordor (A planned society is most appealing to those with the arrogance to think they will be the planners)
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To: bnelson44

Nasrallah has just declared 'open war'

The Big Pharaoh
http://www.bigpharaoh.com/2006/07/14/dad-weighs-in/

Friday, July 14, 2006
Dad Weighs In
Topics: Uncategorized
My dad was a general in the Egyptian army. His comments are always so informative especially if they were related to a war that broke out. He had this to say about Lebanon:

This idiot Nasrallah. He is so funny. He keeps on issuing threats, he has no idea what he is talking about. What Israel is doing to him now is just gentle padding on the shoulders. Abou Shakha dah didn't see what we saw. Israel fought on 3 fronts in 1967 and it was hell. I was there, I saw it all. He has no tanks, no boats, he has nothing except a few toys he got from Iran and it seems abu shakha dah don't know that Israel confronted 3 of the most powerful armies in the region at the same time. If Israel wanted to brutally crush him it can do so in 1 hour.

*Abu Shakha dah literally means "this guy with the piss". We use this slang term to refer to a grown up whose capabilities is of a baby who wets himself.


1,115 posted on 07/15/2006 7:10:28 AM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: Allegra

Ok...been working this morning- got your posts on the locked thread..am now HAVING to watch CNN because FOX is MADDENLINGLY doing their Saturday biz block....

What I THINK I heard was that the hit on the Syrian armed forces was on the Lebanon side???

Trying to get up to speed here...

You staying?


1,116 posted on 07/15/2006 7:11:03 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: Admin Moderator

Are you going to lock this thread and keep the other one open?

We're getting confused ;) LOL!


1,117 posted on 07/15/2006 7:13:09 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)
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To: SauronOfMordor
http://wjz.com/topstories/topstories_story_196081831.html

Jul 15, 2006 8:17 am US/Eastern

Israel: Iran Aided Hezbollah In Attack

Official Says Iran Behind Warship Attack; Israel Fearful Of Tel Aviv Hit

(CBS News) JERUSALEM A senior Israeli intelligence official said Saturday that Iranian troops helped Hezbollah fire the missile that damaged an Israeli warship off the Lebanese coast the night before.

One sailor was killed and three remain missing after the attack, reports CBS News correspondent Robert Berger in Jerusalem.

The official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitive nature of the information, said about 100 Iranian soldiers are in Lebanon and helped fire the Iranian-made, radar-guided C-102 at the ship that killed one and left three missing.

Initially, it was thought that Hezbollah used a drone to attack the ship. The Israeli intelligence official did say that Hezbollah does have drones and warned that they are more accurate than missiles.

"We can confirm that it was hit by an Iranian-made missile launched by Hezbollah. We see this as very profound fingerprint of Iranian involvement in Hezbollah," Brig. Gen. Ido Nehushtan said in an interview with The Associated Press.

Another Hezbollah missile also hit and sank a nearby civilian merchant ship at around the same time, Nehushtan said. He said that ship apparently was Egyptian, but he had no other information about it.

Nehushtan said the body of one of the four Israeli soldiers left missing by the attack on the warship was found aboard it, but other Israeli military officials said two bodies had been found.

Israeli officials warned Saturday that Hezbollah has missiles that could reach as far as 62-125 miles, into the country, putting cities such as Jerusalem and Tel Aviv at risk if the weapons are used.

A senior Israeli intelligence official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because of the sensitivity of the information, said that Hezbollah has 150 missiles that could reach a distance of about 28 miles, and another 20 with a range of 100-200 kilometers.

"They may hit Tel Aviv," the official said, adding that Israeli intelligence officials were not sure why Hezbollah has not used the missiles since it started firing rockets at Israel on Wednesday.

An army spokesman said that since Wednesday, more than 350 Katyusha rockets have been fired into Israel, including 40 on Saturday, and have killed four people and injured about 60.

In other developments:

• At the G-8 conference in St. Petersburg, Russia Saturday, President Bush blamed Hezbollah alone for the escalating violence in the Middle East, putting himself at odds with Russian President Vladimir Putin, who was more critical of Israel. "In my judgment, the best way to stop the violence is to understand why the violence occurred in the first place," Mr. Bush said. "And that's because Hezbollah has been launching rocket attacks out of Lebanon into Israel and because Hezbollah captured two Israeli soldiers."

• Arab foreign ministers have held an emergency summit in Cairo Saturday over the intensified fighting between Israel and Lebanon. Lebanon's foreign minister today presented his fellow Arab League members with a draft resolution condemning what it says is Israel's military offensive. The resolution also supports Lebanon's "right to resist occupation by all legitimate means."

• CBS News correspondent Cynthia Bowers reports on how the fighting has affected Lebanese-Americans in Dearborn, Mich., who have family members in Lebanon. "Everything is escalating so quickly it doesn't give you time to breathe to react to one thing before something else happens," Issam Abbas tells Bowers of the conflict (video).

• Hezbollah's leader said Friday that his group is ready for "open war" with Israel, and as his words were broadcast, guerrillas attacked an Israeli warship that had been firing missiles into southern Beirut. On Hezbollah's Al-Manar television less than an hour after missiles destroyed his headquarters and home, Sheik Hassan Nasrallah addressed himself to Israelis and said they must take responsibility for their actions. "You wanted an open war, and we are heading for an open war," he said. "We are ready for it."

Earlier, at least 27 people were killed in South Lebanon when several cars were hit in Israeli air strikes. In northern Israel, rockets fell on the city of Tiberias, reports Berger.

Israel radio reported that tourists were leaving the city after the attack. Israel's Channel 2 television said that police with megaphones were going beach by beach urging bathers to seek shelter.

It was believed to be the first time since the 1973 Mideast War that Tiberias was hit by a missile. It is 22 miles south of the border with Lebanon.

Israel launched its offensive after Hezbollah guerrillas crossed the Israel-Lebanon border on Wednesday and captured two Israeli soldiers. Israel has bombarded Lebanon's airport and main roads in the most intensive offensive against the country in 24 years, while Hezbollah has launched hundreds of rockets into Israel.

The intense fighting has sent shock waves through a region already traumatized by Israel's battle against Hamas militants in the Gaza Strip. With Israeli officials pointing fingers at Hezbollah's close allies, Syria and Iran, the crisis could soon spread even further.

The damaged Israeli warship, which had been carrying several dozen sailors, was traveling back to the Israeli port of Haifa on Saturday after a fire aboard it was put out.

During the current campaign, Hezbollah has proved to be a tough foe. Despite numerous airstrikes on Hezbollah targets, including the headquarters of its leader, Sheik Hassan Nasrallah, Israel has been unable to stop the rocket fire.

Nine Israeli soldiers and four civilians have been killed in the fighting, and the loss of the three sailors threatened to drive the death toll higher. At least 73 Lebanese have died, most of the them civilians.

1,118 posted on 07/15/2006 7:13:48 AM PDT by Fitzcarraldo
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To: SE Mom
You staying?

So far, but that could change any minute.

1,119 posted on 07/15/2006 7:14:13 AM PDT by Allegra (FReeping LIVE! from suddenly one of the safer places in the Middle East)
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To: SauronOfMordor
Irael is already saying that there are hundreds of Iranians in Lebanon providing support for Hezbollah. It wouldn't have been hard to ship in a few Silkworms (unassembled) on Iranian transport flights and have Iranian techs assemble them and set them up for firing

Does anyone know where the Iranian subs are (or where they have been)?

1,120 posted on 07/15/2006 7:14:27 AM PDT by DejaJude (Admiral Clark said, "Our mantra today is life, liberty and the pursuit of those who threaten it!")
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