7/14: Middle East Live Thread

The radical Shiite cleric Moktada al-Sadr said that Iraqis would not “sit by with folded hands”

It would be so great if this little Pillsbury dough-boy finally became wormfood. He's like a pesky splinter in your big toe. Enough already!

1,041 posted on 07/15/2006 4:24:20 AM PDT by AmericaUnited

But Syria has hundreds of missiles that can target Israeli population centers with WMD payloads.

Syria would ceast to exist for all of eternity in that event, AND THEY KNOW IT.

1,042 posted on 07/15/2006 4:28:42 AM PDT by AmericaUnited

To: AmericaUnited

I heard Mike Tobin on FOX report a little while ago that Hezbollah rockets have reached the Israeli city of Tiberias.

1,043 posted on 07/15/2006 4:29:08 AM PDT by rightwingintelligentsia (Democrats, Euroweenies, and the MSM--the Axis of Appeasement)

To: WestVirginiaRebel

1,044 posted on 07/15/2006 4:30:26 AM PDT by fatima (You can read History or make it,fatima)

Since this is a proxy war, Saudi can not accept that Iran will get the upper hand, thus they are against the Shiia Hizbollah and Hamas that both are clients of Tehran.

The Saudi external expansion with their Wahhabi brand of Sunni Islam started after the revolution in Iran in 1979 when Khomeini took over with his velayat-e-faqih brand of Shiia Islam.

Unfortunately, both Saudi and Iran have a lot of money and they have purchased market shares among the Muslims. If both of them can be prevented from spreading their crazy brands the world would be a better place.

As the price of crude oil is very high, we will probably soon see alternatives based on coal and tar sand. This will as well marginalize these countries.

1,045 posted on 07/15/2006 4:30:46 AM PDT by AdmSmith

Israel official: Iran helping Hezbollah
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/0-0&fp=44b8b5ac46d53315&ei=1dC4RLeuGqWSabieta4E&url=http%3A//seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1107AP_Israel_Attacked_Ship.html%3Fsource%3Dmypi&cid=0
Seattle Post Intelligencer - 3 minutes ago
JERUSALEM -- A senior Israeli intelligence official said Saturday that Iranian troops helped Hezbollah fire the missile that struck an Israeli warship off the ...

Hezbollah rockets strike Israeli city
OregonLive.com, OR - 6 minutes ago
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/1-0&fp=44b8b5ac46d53315&ei=1dC4RLeuGqWSabieta4E&url=http%3A//www.oregonlive.com/newsflash/international/index.ssf%3F/base/international-32/1152960861319200.xml%26storylist%3Dorinternational&cid=0
... Israeli medics said. It was the first attack on the city of Tiberias since Israel started its offensive in Lebanon. The city is ...

Israel blitzes, diplomacy falters
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/3-0&fp=44b8b5ac46d53315&ei=1dC4RLeuGqWSabieta4E&url=http%3A//www.news24.com/News24/World/News/0%2C%2C2-10-1462_1968148%2C00.html&cid=0
News24, South Africa - 10 minutes ago
Beirut - Israel kept up its blistering offensive against Lebanon on Saturday after Hezbollah guerrilla leader Hassan Nasrallah defiantly declared open war in a ...

Bush Blames Hezbollah for Mideast Violence
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/5-0&fp=44b8b5ac46d53315&ei=1dC4RLeuGqWSabieta4E&url=http%3A//www.thetandd.com/articles/2006/07/15/ap/headlines/d8isbdug0.txt&cid=0
The Times and Democrat, SC - 13 minutes ago
... Hezbollah alone for the escalating violence in the Middle East, putting himself at odds with Russian President Vladimir Putin, who was more critical of Israel. ...

Middle East faces new chapter of violence
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/6-0&fp=44b8b5ac46d53315&ei=1dC4RLeuGqWSabieta4E&url=http%3A//www.nzz.ch/2006/07/15/eng/article6893091.html&cid=0
NZZ Online, Switzerland - 14 minutes ago
Switzerland has criticised Israel's attacks in Lebanon as "disproportionate", while at the same time condemning Islamic militant aggression. ...

Palestinians flood from Egypt into Gaza after militants force ...
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/7-0&fp=44b8b5ac46d53315&ei=1dC4RLeuGqWSabieta4E&url=http%3A//www.nctimes.com/articles/2006/07/15/news/nation/17_05_287_14_06.txt&cid=0
North County Times, CA - 15 minutes ago
... Friday, the United States pledged $50 million for Palestinian refugees, while Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas urged Washington to pressure Israel to end ...

Onus for restraint not just on Israel
http://www.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=thestar/Layout/Article_Type1&c=Article&cid=1152913811991&call_pageid=970599119419
Toronto Star, Canada - 2 hours ago
With Israel exercising its military might on the ground in Gaza and in skies over Lebanon, leaders around the world — with the notable exception of our own ...

Mideast Violence Continues, Israel Strikes New Targets in Lebanon
http://www.voanews.com/english/2006-07-15-voa5.cfm
Voice of America - 52 minutes ago
By Jim Teeple. Israel on Saturday carried out air strikes against targets across Lebanon, killing at least four civilians. More than ...

Abbas to Rice: I'm working to end Gaza crisis Jerusalem Post
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1150886001823&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull

Abbas warns of regional war as Israel intensifies attacks on ... Xinhua
http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2006-07/13/content_4830216.htm

Abbas 'held secret Israel talks' BBC News
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/5177374.stm

1,046 posted on 07/15/2006 4:33:31 AM PDT by theophilusscribe

To: Liberty Valance

I'd pay up to $500 for one of those "Air Force One" jackets :)

1,047 posted on 07/15/2006 4:36:12 AM PDT by AmericaUnited

Could you add me to your ping list please (if you have one?)

Thanks!

1,048 posted on 07/15/2006 4:37:26 AM PDT by arbee4bush (Our Airman Daughter KB4W--Hero, Patriot and the Love of her mom & dads life!)

Good morning. No surprise about Iran being on-site, to be sure. I hadn't heard the missile that struck the ship was a silkworm until now though.

I'm trying to get caught up, it seems the report about the 4 sailors was true...

1,049 posted on 07/15/2006 4:37:41 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (I am a proud friend of Israel.)

Catch up on thread, later.

1,050 posted on 07/15/2006 4:37:46 AM PDT by lysie

Do you have people over there, or do you know who on this thread might? I just heard something that might be of value - but it might not and want to ask advice in private, if possible.

1,051 posted on 07/15/2006 4:38:32 AM PDT by Rte66

To: rightwingintelligentsia

I finally found a map online. Tiberias is about at the same latitude as Haifa.

1,052 posted on 07/15/2006 4:45:43 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (I am a proud friend of Israel.)

Info about Iranian naval anti-surface equipment and the C-802 that probably hit the Israeli corvette http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread215234/pg

1,053 posted on 07/15/2006 4:47:12 AM PDT by AdmSmith

To: prairiebreeze

Yes- apparently a Chinese silkworm. The implications are not surprising- but Iran really seems to tempting fate..

1,054 posted on 07/15/2006 4:50:58 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet)

i love that pic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

1,055 posted on 07/15/2006 4:54:00 AM PDT by xsmommy

If Iran is willing to go to these lengths to shift attention from themselves and their sanctions/weapons/nukes issues.....I don't think it bodes well for the rest of the world.

1,057 posted on 07/15/2006 4:59:20 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (I am a proud friend of Israel.)

IDF : Missile that hit ship was Iranian
07/15/2006 7:48:46 AM EDT
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1666153/posts
Ynet ^
A senior IDF officer said the ship was struck by an Iranian-made C802 missile, but he refused to say whether or not Iranian activists were behind the launching itself. The army said two C802 missiles were fired at the vessel; the first missed the ship and struck an Egyptian boat some 60 kilometers (37 miles) off the Lebanon coast. The stern of the ship was hit shortly after 8:30 p.m. Friday night and a conflagration ignited on the helicopter landing pad. The hit also damaged the ship’s internal operating systems.

Europeans begin Lebanon evacuation
07/15/2006 7:21:38 AM EDT
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1666152/posts
DPA by way of the Bangkok Post ^ | 14JUL06 | Deutsche Presse-Agentur
Paris (dpa) - European countries had begun evacuating their citizens from Lebanon Saturday in the face of the ongoing military Israeli offensive and blockade on the country. Italy and Spain had already acted to move their citizens to safety, while Britain and France were preparing similar operations. The Italian Embassy in Beirut had helped 420 foreigners, including 300 Italians, to evacuate from Beirut by bus to safer areas in northern Lebanon, Italian state television reported. Some 1,300 Italians live in Lebanon, most of whom "have been living in the country for years and want to remain there," the embassy said....

Hizballah Brings out Iranian Silkworm to Hit Israel Navy Corvette
07/15/2006 7:21:36 AM EDT
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1666151/posts
DEBKA file ^ | July 15, 2006, 1:37 PM (GMT+02:00) | DEBKAfile Exclusive Military Analysis
Hizballah Brings out Iranian Silkworm to Hit Israel Navy Corvette DEBKAfile Exclusive Military Analysis July 15, 2006, 1:37 PM (GMT+02:00) The disaster that overtook one of the Israeli Navy’s state of the art warships, Ahi-Hanit, was thoroughly planned in advance by an enemy which managed to take Israel’s military commanders by surprise. It has shocked Israel’s military to a degree comparable to the profound effect on US forces of al Qaeda’s 2000 attack on the USS Cole in Aden. The Saar-5 class corvette, with a crew of 61 seamen and a 10-man helicopter crew, was hit Friday, July 17 at...

1,058 posted on 07/15/2006 5:04:24 AM PDT by theophilusscribe

I've posted some articles in 1,035, 1,037, and 1,046 that may be of interest to you.

1,059 posted on 07/15/2006 5:07:03 AM PDT by theophilusscribe

To: prairiebreeze; SE Mom

If we doubted that that little Iranian nutjob was really willing to ratchet up this war and get Iran involved, there seems no doubt now. The thought that Iran is going to train their Chinese silkworm missiles on Israeli civilians is beyond frightening.

He really is trying to become the next Hitler. This is a huge escalation of this war.

1,060 posted on 07/15/2006 5:09:15 AM PDT by JustaCowgirl (Liberals aren't having so much fun now that the rabbit has the gun. --Ann Coulter)

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