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AMLO ALERT! PAN Representative Accuses AMLO'S PRD OF Kidnapping PAN Official (Translation)
eluniversal.com.mx ^ | July 12, 2006 | Jorge Teherán & Sergio Javier Jiménez ( translated by self )

Posted on 07/12/2006 2:44:44 PM PDT by StJacques

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Things are heating up in Mexico. Lopez Obrador and the left are beginning to throw caution to the winds. If they don't step back soon it could explode.
1 posted on 07/12/2006 2:44:48 PM PDT by StJacques
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To: conservative in nyc; CedarDave; Pikachu_Dad; BunnySlippers; machogirl; NinoFan; chilepepper; ...
Mexican post-election ping.

AMLO & co. are very nearly going off the deep end here.

Anyone interested in tracking down my other translations on the Mexican post-election controversy can do so by doing a keyword search for -- STJTRANSLATION
2 posted on 07/12/2006 2:46:41 PM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: StJacques

Thanks for the ping. This is really heating up!


3 posted on 07/12/2006 2:48:12 PM PDT by NinoFan
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To: StJacques

And let's hope it "explodes" in the right direction.


4 posted on 07/12/2006 2:55:58 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: StJacques

This doesn't sound too good.


5 posted on 07/12/2006 2:57:23 PM PDT by conservative in nyc
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To: California Patriot

Maybe "implodes" is the word we're looking for here.


6 posted on 07/12/2006 2:59:44 PM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: StJacques

FWIIW, apparently Ordagore is now saying his supporters -- including many close to him -- have been paid off by the PAN and are out to get him.

He's gone around the bend.

My wife is worried about civil war, but doesn't think it will come to that.


7 posted on 07/12/2006 3:03:08 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Let them die of thirst in the dark.)
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To: StJacques

Maybe both can happen. I'd like to see an explosion first. Then, whatever is left of PRD can implode.


8 posted on 07/12/2006 3:08:09 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: freedumb2003

Excellent news, if true. All things considered, a wacko is less dangerous in this situation than a coldly calculating guy. If he were in power, it would be different, but he isn't in power yet. If he's a loony, we have a somewhat better hope of keeping him out of power.


9 posted on 07/12/2006 3:09:57 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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"My wife is worried about civil war, but doesn't think it will come to that."

I don't think we'll have to worry about that until after the electoral tribunal rules. Then we'll see.

What I'm kind of hoping for here is that AMLO and the PRD discredit themselves so thoroughly in the eyes of the Mexican people before the tribunal rules that any call for revolt he might make will fall on deaf ears. I know he has a hard core of support that will stick with him no matter what, but they may still understand that they've lost before they begin.
10 posted on 07/12/2006 3:18:58 PM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: StJacques

Obviously this is not making it to international news ... but it can fuel tempers in Mexico. Obrador is really a bad guy.

BTW, saw an Obrador bumper sticker on the freeway here in Los Angeles. It said something like "Vamos a ganar" whatever ganar means. It also said "Siglio" or something ... and that stupid little cartoon of Obrador.


11 posted on 07/12/2006 3:27:59 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (NUTS!)
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To: StJacques

Ready the hit squad to take out AMLO if these games don't stop.


12 posted on 07/12/2006 3:40:21 PM PDT by Thunder90
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To: BunnySlippers

Vamos a ganar = We're gonna win


13 posted on 07/12/2006 3:51:24 PM PDT by El Conservador ("No blood for oil!"... Then don't drive, you moron!!!)
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To: BunnySlippers
"Vamos a ganar" means "we're going to win."

"Siglo" means century. I'd have to know what the rest of the phrasing was to make any kind of guess as to what it meant.

And yes; Obrador really is a bad guy. He and his followers are not checked by their own consciences. That is danger from the get-go.
14 posted on 07/12/2006 3:51:30 PM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: StJacques

Does "siglio" mean something? Or "sidio"... :)

I'm not much help. :)


15 posted on 07/12/2006 3:52:45 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (NUTS!)
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To: Thunder90
"Ready the hit squad to take out AMLO if these games don't stop."

This might not be so unlikely an occurrence as one might think Thunder90. There are powerful people whose interests are threatened here.

And I'm being very serious here.
16 posted on 07/12/2006 3:53:45 PM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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To: BunnySlippers
I'm just guessing but you may be seeing the word "sido" which is a participle of the verb "ser" = "to be."

Haber sido = "to have been"

I'm reaching here, but just trying to help you out.
17 posted on 07/12/2006 3:57:43 PM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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Silly, don't you know I can't be helped? :-P


18 posted on 07/12/2006 4:01:27 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (NUTS!)
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To: StJacques

We must do everything to prevent a "Red Dawn" scenario here on our soil.


19 posted on 07/12/2006 4:05:12 PM PDT by Thunder90
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The real danger, even if Lopez Obrador were to win the election recount, is that we find ourselves facing a mass migration northwards out of Mexico -- much larger than anything we have ever seen -- because the country falls apart completely. They can be driven out to escape a revolutionary situation or they can be driven out because the whole system just flat out crashes, either way it destabilizes us.

I really got into it with a couple of Freepers the other day who were incensed that I would be rooting for Calderon because they know that Calderon wants to see the status of Mexicans illegally here in the U.S. made legal. I tried to explain that any Mexican President would want that because they are a source of money coming into Mexico. I oppose the idea, but that didn't matter. All my efforts to try to make people understand that Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador is a very real threat fell on deaf ears. They didn't even want to contemplate the idea that we could discuss what goes on in Mexico because the illegal immigrant situation in this country is so bad that all Mexicans have to bear their share of the blame.

Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador is a genuine threat to destabilize our country. I'm not going to agree with everything Calderon does and I intend to stand up for the enforcement of U.S. immigration laws, but it is so easy to see that Mexico, and the U.S., are both so much better off with Calderon in power than with AMLO. And I worry what will happen if AMLO doesn't get his way. Or maybe I should say "when" AMLO doesn't get his way.
20 posted on 07/12/2006 4:28:55 PM PDT by StJacques (Liberty is always unfinished business)
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