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Hogan's Heroes hurt PoWs
Herald Sun ^ | 13 July 2006 | Neil Wilson

Posted on 07/12/2006 10:08:10 AM PDT by Aussie Dasher

COLONELS Klink and Hogan and Sgt Schultz of the sitcom Hogan's Heroes have done real PoWs of the Nazis no favours, a federal minister says.

(Australian) Veterans' Affairs Minister Bruce Billson said that thanks to Hollywood, those in German and Italian prison camps in World War II were wrongly perceived by many as having had a fairly easy time.

Mr Billson, 40, said after launching this year's Weary Dunlop Medical Research appeal that he watched repeats of Hogan's Heroes as a child.

But he had a totally different view as he now considered whether European PoWs should be given a one-off $25,000 compensation payment.

Survivors of Japanese captivity, who were often subjected to barbaric cruelty and slave labour, won the payment in 2001 after a long campaign.

It was extended to 14 Korean War prisoners or spouses last year.

But the Federal Government has so far refused to include World War II European PoWs, who were mainly RAAF and RAF airmen and Diggers captured in Crete, Greece and North Africa.

"I think it's likely Hogan's Heroes has done a bit of a disservice," Mr Billson said.

"Col. Klink and Sgt Schultz haven't done much good, really."

"It has added to a false impression that the only ones who really suffered were the prisoners of the Japanese.

"Images of jolly good old chaps, the PoW camp band, men getting Red Cross parcels, creates a different impression than the reality in Europe."

Mr Billson said many Australians suffered "hardship, horror and brutality".

"Conditions varied. It depended on the location, the time, and Red Cross were involved only when it suited the captors," he said.

"This interests me and I've asked for people to come to me with more specific information."

PoWs were sent on long, hazardous marches in the frozen 1944-45 winter as the Germans fled the Russians.

Others were forced to perform gruesome tasks cleaning up bomb-ravaged cities.

Some British PoWs were held at the notorious Auschwitz concentration camp.

And four Australians were among 50 PoWs murdered by the Gestapo after they escaped from Stalag Luft III.

Their story was told in Paul Brickhill's book The Great Escape, which became a hit movie of the same name in 1963.

It is believed Mr Billson will also consider a Canadian report on European PoWs.

The RSL and Ex-PoW Association said the $25,000 payment was one of their six budget priorities this year.

Ex-PoW Association national secretary Cyril Gilbert said he liked watching Hogan's Heroes.

But Mr Gilbert said it was no joke that 862 surviving European PoWs and their 1278 widows had not been compensated. More were dying every month.

Past Veterans' Affairs ministers had used the lower death rate of men in Europe compared with that of prisoners of the Japanese as a reason to stall on compensation.

"They've been like Sgt Schultz: 'I know nothing, I know nothing'," Mr Gilbert said.

"The European PoWs have been discriminated against plainly, and that has split the veterans' community.

"In my opinion, the majority of European PoWs suffered more than those who were in Singapore for the war.

"Germans abided by the Geneva Convention only when they wanted to -- not too often."

Mr Gilbert and RSL national president Maj-Gen Bill Crews welcomed the fresh approach by Mr Billson.

"Hogan's Heroes created a very wrong impression of imprisonment under the Germans, like it was some holiday camp," Maj-Gen Crews said.

"We believe all those men suffered significantly at different times."

Mr Gilbert said it would be as foolish to judge German stalags by Hogan's Heroes as it would be to judge Japanese slave labour by the Bridge on the River Kwai.


TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Germany; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: germany; hogansheroes; hollywood; italy; mediabias; pows; veterans; workoffiction; wwii
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To: Lockbar
Have a nice day in a country where you can't walk down the street chewing bubble gum

AND at the same time!

141 posted on 07/12/2006 2:32:31 PM PDT by llevrok (Born a ham and never cured.)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Oh for Pete's sake. We KNOW it was a TV SHOW. Get over yourself already.

BTW, I'm still waiting for somebody to complain about how I Dream of Jeannie portrayed Middle Eastern women (who happened to be blonde) as naive bubbleheads.

142 posted on 07/12/2006 2:46:38 PM PDT by WestVirginiaRebel (Common sense will do to liberalism what the atomic bomb did to Nagasaki-Rush Limbaugh)
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To: durasell

True that. Feynman was amazing, what a mind he had.


143 posted on 07/12/2006 5:53:23 PM PDT by perfect stranger (I need new glasses.)
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To: perfect stranger

He was also a hound...


144 posted on 07/12/2006 6:04:05 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: durasell
I have heard stories about Feynman making demands on grad student wives.
Heck of a way to pass the 'quals' !
145 posted on 07/12/2006 6:17:34 PM PDT by Reily
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To: Reily

His wife died while he was working on the Manhattan Project. I think that pretty much messed him up. I'd heard about him hitting on the wives of grad students, but not much else.

Reminds me of the story of Hawking, who had a long affair with one of his nurses when he was still able to get about. When his ex-wife was interviewed, she said, "He's not bleeding Einstein, you know."


146 posted on 07/12/2006 6:29:00 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: PeteB570

"...I have always liked Stalag 17...."

Ah, soooooooooooo!


147 posted on 07/12/2006 6:56:03 PM PDT by NCC-1701 (RADICAL ISLAM IS A CULT. IT MUST BE ELIMINATED FROM THE FACE OF THE EARTH.)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
BTW, I'm still waiting for somebody to complain about how I Dream of Jeannie portrayed Middle Eastern women (who happened to be blonde) as naive bubbleheads.

NOW we know why the Islamofascists are so upset! You may have stumbled on the real reason for the War on Terror. :^)

148 posted on 07/12/2006 7:22:33 PM PDT by myprecious
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To: durasell

ping


149 posted on 07/12/2006 7:48:43 PM PDT by perfect stranger
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
BTW, I'm still waiting for somebody to complain about how I Dream of Jeannie portrayed Middle Eastern women (who happened to be blonde) as naive bubbleheads.

It was strictly a blonde thing. As you may recall, Jeannie's brunette sister was no naive bubblehead.

150 posted on 07/13/2006 5:51:31 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Free Travis!)
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To: 1L
Banner was also a Jew.
IIRC, most of the "German" actors were, and a couple were camp survivors.

-Eric

151 posted on 07/13/2006 7:25:17 AM PDT by E Rocc (Myspace "Freepers" group moderator)
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To: Aussie Dasher
Forty years ago this argument was crap.

Now it's just goofy.

152 posted on 07/13/2006 7:27:18 AM PDT by wireman
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To: Aussie Dasher

http://home.flash.net/~dhunt/ck8mb/ck8mb.htm


153 posted on 07/13/2006 8:00:45 AM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein(the moon is a harsh mistress))
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