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Artificial Blood Experiment Hits 27 U.S. Cities
abcnews.com/ ^ | July 07, 2006 | Brian Ross and Joseph Rhee

Posted on 07/11/2006 1:23:59 PM PDT by cope85

Artificial Blood Experiment Hits 27 U.S. Cities

Brian Ross and Joseph Rhee Report:

In 27 cities across the United States, seriously injured accident victims could end up in a medical experiment, without their knowledge or consent.

The experiment involves an artificial blood called Polyheme.

The federal government has given the company that makes it approval to use badly bleeding accident victims as test subjects, without the subjects informed consent.

The only way out is to wear a blue bracelet provided by the company.

The company says it's the only way to test such a product.

But others, including Pastor Paul Burleson of a Denver church alliance, say it turns Americans into human guinea pigs.

"If I'm in accident and I just don't happen to have this particular wristband, that I'd be a guinea pig is unconscionable," he said.

Check to see if your city is among those participating in the Polyheme experiment


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To: Constantine XIII
Yeah, this isn't being touted as a cure-all, just something that can help people who are bleeding out to survive until they can reach the hospital and receive donated blood.

You are incorrect here. The study requires that the patient be kept on the polyheme for at least 12 hours. This means that they cannot be given human blood even when they get to the hospital. This is the part I cannot abide.

21 posted on 07/11/2006 1:57:15 PM PDT by ibheath (Born again and grateful to God.)
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To: cope85

If I were in an emergency situation in which I needed an immediate transfusion of blood, I'd gladly take my chances with this Polyheme stuff rather than just bleed out and die. Since EMT crews can't go around getting authorization from every single person who could possibly need an emergency transfusion, this seems perfectly reasonable to me.


22 posted on 07/11/2006 1:58:02 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: cope85

Resistance is futile.


23 posted on 07/11/2006 1:58:31 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Show them no mercy, for you shall receive none!)
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To: ibheath

Maybe there's a reason they can't immediately switch? Mixing three different kinds of blood (patient's, polyheme, and donor) might do odd things.

Again, I'm not saying I don't think something's up, I just want to know a bit more before we jump on the "rush to judgement" bandwagon. :)


24 posted on 07/11/2006 2:01:06 PM PDT by Constantine XIII
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To: cope85

So, now we risk Artificial AIDS?


25 posted on 07/11/2006 2:01:42 PM PDT by 2harddrive (...House a TOTAL Loss.....)
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To: infidel29; GrandEagle

There's really no other way to do a valid trial of this. How many people are going to bother to get and constantly wear an opt-in wristband? I don't have any problem at all with this, but I doubt I'd get around to getting the wristband or wearing it all the time. It's not like this hasn't been tested extensively on animals, and there are plenty of known dangers of natural blood transfusions that Polyheme avoids. And people have all sorts of things done to them without their consent when they've sustained severe trauma and are in no position to agree or disagree to anything in particular. Trach tube insertions are routine, for example, and though it's a serious procedure with some serious risks and will leave a conspicuous scar, it's often life-saving and by definition nobody who is a candidate for it is in a position to give consent. And how many people have been fully informed and given consent before being given a natural blood transfusion in an emergency situation? Do you know what the screening standards are for the particular source that blood came from? Was it donated or sold (which makes a difference in the likelihood of honesty during background screening)?


26 posted on 07/11/2006 2:16:17 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: Myrddin

How did he stop the dog from making its own blood?

Drain the poor thing every day or so?

Mrs VS


27 posted on 07/11/2006 2:18:57 PM PDT by VeritatisSplendor
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To: Myrddin
I'm surprised it has taken 30 years to roll it out to humans.

Why? As you can see, there are plenty of people right here on FR who are eager to delay it further.

28 posted on 07/11/2006 2:19:04 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: cope85

They're just useless bread gobblers, anyhow. Think of the good for society as a whole. This is simply the govt acting in the public interest. Like Dr. Mengele.


29 posted on 07/11/2006 2:22:17 PM PDT by Seruzawa (If you agree with the French raise your hand - If you are French raise both hands.)
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To: GrandEagle

This is a legitimate study approved by the FDA. With enormous benefits if Polyheme is confirmed as a substitute for human blood. Now, just as the study is about to complete, the media is jumping on it.

Yikes! You'd hope Freepers would THINK before BELIEVING meida (ABC News no less)! Shame!!! Shame!!! Shame!!!

Polyheme has a one-year life-span compared to human blood's 2-month life-span (and recent studies question that second month - they show you're far better off with 1-month-old blood). It also avoids the complications of blood-typing so it removes those complicaitons and errors. In particular, it offers huge advantages to the Armed Forces.

The current trial has had over 700 participants and a respected, independent panel has reviewed it three times (the last time at the 500+ patient mark) and allowed it to continue. If there were any evidence of inferiority to human blood, they would have stopped it long ago.


30 posted on 07/11/2006 2:26:06 PM PDT by RossA
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To: 2harddrive

Another Freeper who Monicas the MSM!

Polyheme will eliminate cases of AIDS-by-transfusion.


31 posted on 07/11/2006 2:27:56 PM PDT by RossA
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To: Gingersnap

"Given a choice between almost certainly dying on the way to the ER and maybe having a bad reaction down the road, I'd take the fake blood."

I'd think informed consent prior to surgery would provide equally valid data. There will be side effects, in one form or another; the question is, will these side effects be deemed acceptable, or not? That's why informed consent is important. The legal ramifications are much greater without it.


32 posted on 07/11/2006 2:28:17 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: GrandEagle

I personally would rather take my chances with artificial blood than real blood considering the possible pathogens in real blood. Perhaps in the not too far future there will be no need for blood banks and worrying about blood types.


33 posted on 07/11/2006 2:28:23 PM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: cope85

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34 posted on 07/11/2006 2:34:03 PM PDT by dubie
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To: GovernmentShrinker; GrandEagle
...people have all sorts of things done to them without their consent...

...and this is a valid argument? People have all sorts of things done to them anyways so what's another unauthorized experiment?

The majority of things done to accident victims are done with the an eye toward saving their life, not testing to see if the latest 'miracle drug' is going to work or not.

There are always voluntary medical trials going on with the consent of the subjects. This is an attempt by the manufacturer and researchers to avoid paying the subjects in the typical clinical trial scenario.

35 posted on 07/11/2006 2:38:36 PM PDT by infidel29 ("Growing old is inevitable ... growing UP is optional.")
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To: cope85

Some facts on the Polyheme trial:

1. There are two questions: Is it better than human blood? And is it equal to human blood? The latter is referred to as "non-inferiority". It is important because of the difficulty in maintaining and administering human blood: the limited shelf-life, the need for blood-typing and the transmission of disease.

2. Participants are given the option of switching to human blood in the hospital. If they are still unconscious,their relatives are given that option.

3. There is no other way of testing improvements to the treatment of trauma. Accident victims who have lost blood cannot give informed consent.

4. Northfield Labs is not "Big Pharma". They are a start-up with no other product.

5. There is considerable evidence that Polyheme is effective - chief being that this trial is close to completion after several independent reviews.

6. Maybe with our current over-regulated, over-lawyered society, there is no way to improve. If Freepers swallow MSM stories this readily, I am willing to despair.


36 posted on 07/11/2006 2:46:02 PM PDT by RossA
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To: Constantine XIII

Better to have fake blood than to have no blood at all?

Or let's try another slant.

"This is the way they plan on putting in the governments mind control devices."


37 posted on 07/11/2006 2:49:43 PM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: GrandEagle
To be honest this seems bizarre to me. My wife is involved with clinical trials of drugs and informed consent is imperative. Our country is in worse shape than I thought.

Every day, more and more, we resemble the old Soviet Union.

38 posted on 07/11/2006 2:51:42 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is a perversion of faith, a lie against human spirit, an obscenity shouted in the face of G_d)
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To: VeritatisSplendor
I think the dog's bone marrow was killed first. A similar technique is used in humans before performing a marrow transplant. I would ask him directly, but I just discovered that he passed on in January 1999. Here's the link. Just a funny note in passing. Dr. Sharts was lecturing on the dangers of ether in the lab. He poured a beaker of ether into an equal amount of water. It hardly budged. The ether fits nicely into the spaces between water molecules. To demonstrate the danger, he lit the ether. The blue flame was hardly visible. That didn't stop him from roasting a hot dog over it. He didn't want to waste the hot dog, so he produced a bun, mustard, ketchup and a cold can of beer to rescue the occasion. A very memorable lecture!
39 posted on 07/11/2006 2:53:06 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Gingersnap
That's true. But this will be given only in cases when survival to the ER is unlikely. Given a choice between almost certainly dying on the way to the ER and maybe having a bad reaction down the road, I'd take the fake blood.

Good, then you can wear the wristband. (I know, the object is to not wear it to consent, which is ridiculous and they know it).

The point is, you consented. When did consent become a non-issue to medical trials in Amerussia?

40 posted on 07/11/2006 2:55:28 PM PDT by Lazamataz (Islam is a perversion of faith, a lie against human spirit, an obscenity shouted in the face of G_d)
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