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To: blowfish
When one side has the physical evidence

Both sides have the same physical evidence. The presuppositions of the "interpreter" of the physical evidence is what is in question.

57 posted on 07/10/2006 5:46:44 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: LiteKeeper
A multi-million year old fossil and a 6 thousand year old Earth don't jive.
60 posted on 07/10/2006 5:52:19 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Let them die of thirst in the dark.)
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To: LiteKeeper
Both sides have the same physical evidence. The presuppositions of the "interpreter" of the physical evidence is what is in question.

Well, it's true - both sides have the physical evidence: they're surrounded by it.
I should have said "One side has a coherent explanation for the physical evidence, the other side doesn't."

Is that more to your liking?

65 posted on 07/10/2006 6:15:36 PM PDT by blowfish
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To: LiteKeeper
Both sides have the same physical evidence.

But only one side interprets the physical evidence in a manner that makes specific, coherent and successfully tested predictions. (Guess which!)

73 posted on 07/10/2006 7:39:28 PM PDT by Quark2005 ("Do not give dogs what is sacred; do not throw your pearls to pigs." -Matthew 7:6)
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Both sides have the same physical evidence. The presuppositions of the "interpreter" of the physical evidence is what is in question.

Not exactly. Only the science side makes testable predictions about what physical evidence will be found in the field or lab.

Two (out of thousands) examples:

1) If a genetic marker is found in both cows and whales, but is not found in horses, tell which category each animal goes in:
1) will definitely have the same marker.
2) definitely won't.
3) not enough data.
People, pangolins, 'possums, pigs, platypuses, camels, cats, hippos, rhinos, elephants, zebras, giraffes, dogs?

The ToE can answer questions like this. So far, its answers have always been confirmed by actual genetic testing.

Neither the ID nor the creationist faction of the anti-evolution coalition can answer the above questions (or many others of a similar nature) correctly.

This shows that neither one is as powerful as standard biology.

This fact, coupled with the fact that neither one is a scientific theory, shows that they have no place in science classes.

2) The recent discovery of Tiktaalik.

The paleontologists used the ToE in two ways: 1) it predicts what a transitional between fish and amphibians should look like, and 2) it predicts what ancient environment it was likely to have lived in.

Both predictions were fulfilled, as usual.

82 posted on 07/10/2006 10:01:30 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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