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'Condistas' Push Rice for President in '08
Las Vegas Sun ^ | 10 Jul 06 | Julie Smith

Posted on 07/10/2006 9:10:59 AM PDT by xzins

'Condistas' Push Rice for President in '08 By JULIE CARR SMYTH ASSOCIATED PRESS

COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) -

The names are varied - Team Condi, Rice for America, Condistas - yet the goal is the same: Elect Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice president in 2008.

A disparate group of Internet gurus, political junkies and foes of Democratic Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton is pushing a Rice candidacy even though President Bush's top diplomat has said repeatedly that she has no desire to be president.

But the Republican also has declined invitations to rule out a bid in 2008, spoken about the likelihood of a minority winning the White House in her lifetime and taken steps to soften her image - words and deeds that have provided a glimmer of hope to her fans.

Mick Wright, a webmaster in Memphis, Tenn., is one of more than a dozen people who registered draft-Rice Web sites in the year after Bush was re-elected.

"Once that was all over, you started thinking, what's going to happen in the next election?" said Wright, a co-founder of http://www.condipundit.com . "The first one to come to mind as a viable candidate was Condoleezza Rice."

Similar Web sites have cropped up in widely diverse cities, including Seattle; West Sand Lake, N.Y.; Magna, Utah; and Cedarville, Ohio. They are promoting Rice's credentials, soliciting donations and marketing T-shirts, bobblehead dolls and "I Like Rice" buttons.

The Miami-based Americans for Dr. Rice political action committee has established chapters in critical states, including Ohio and Florida. A second PAC, Rice for America, emerged in Greensboro, N.C., last July - though neither has yet reported any income or spending to the Federal Election Commission.

These activist groups declare their independence from the Republican Party, and from Rice herself. Yet political experts suggest party leaders must have a hand in Rice's rise as a potential candidate.

"Nothing happens by chance in politics. Absolutely zero," said Bruce Newman, a DePaul University professor and expert in political marketing. "Everything is driven by marketing, by polling, by market research and by very careful analysis of voters' preferences."

Newman, author of "The Marketing of the President: Political Marketing as Campaign Strategy," said the emergence of a grass-roots movement surrounding Rice will allow voters to feel they played a role in her candidacy - though he believes she is clearly being groomed as the political successor to Bush in light of Vice President Dick Cheney's health problems and unpopularity.

"The people running the Bush administration, and pushing for the geopolitical repositioning we're seeing take place around the world, would be happy to see that kind of person keep political power down the road," he said.

Backers like Rice for her intelligence, poise, self-reliance, values and ability to carry on Bush's international agenda. Recent polls show Rice more popular than other top members of the Bush administration: Almost six in 10 hold a favorable view of her compared with ratings in the 30s for Bush, Cheney and Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld.

If Rice won, she would be the nation's first black president and its first female president.

While Rice's views on foreign policy are well-known, her positions on domestic issues are not. She has described her stand on abortion as "mildly pro-choice," putting her at odds with many conservative Republicans whose votes are decisive in the presidential primaries.

She recently avoided taking a stand on banning same-sex marriage, saying Americans should be sensitive about discussing issues that touch people's lives.

Greg Haas, an Ohio-based Democratic strategist, said Rice's image makeover is a telltale sign.

"The fact of the matter is when you see somebody revolutionize their style, their appearance and their speaking manner, that is not happening all by itself," said Haas, who ran Bill Clinton's successful 1992 presidential campaign in Ohio. "She has clearly begun presenting a different image, moving from a harsh persona to one of a more warm public official."

Rice has showcased her talents as a pianist at the Kennedy Center, lifted weights for a local Washington TV news show and discussed her musical favorites, from Elton John to Aretha Franklin to Mozart, for a British newspaper. The latter was a favor to rock star Bono.

Newman is skeptical, however, that Rice is ready for a presidential run so soon. He believes it is more likely Republicans are grooming her as a vice presidential candidate. He said pairing her with Arizona Sen. John McCain, for example, could strengthen the GOP ticket against a run by Clinton.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: abortion; conservative; electionpresident; mccain; prochoice; prolife; republican; rice; rice2008; rino
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Newman is skeptical, however, that Rice is ready for a presidential run so soon. He believes it is more likely Republicans are grooming her as a vice presidential candidate. He said pairing her with Arizona Sen. John McCain, for example, could strengthen the GOP ticket against a run by Clinton.

Besides consigning her to trash bin of history, any alliance with McCain would identify her as a choice of the MSM.

I'll not vote for someone who describes herself as "mildly pro-choice."

She'll fix that or miss my primary vote.

In the general election, it'll be a different story. But if she's with McCain, then the Pubbies will lose. The MSM has been pushing him the way they pushed Dole all those years. With McCain that know it's the Keating 5 issue.

They will eat him alive.

1 posted on 07/10/2006 9:11:01 AM PDT by xzins
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I'll not vote for someone who describes herself as "mildly pro-choice."



Me either. Never!!!!! They better have a pro-life candidate. If they don't than guess what? The RNC is obviously as corrupt as the dems and who needs either of them if that is the case.


2 posted on 07/10/2006 9:13:42 AM PDT by napscoordinator
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> I'll not vote for someone who describes herself as "mildly pro-choice."

And what, exactly, do you think the President can do about abortion? Would you install the rabidly pro-choice Hillary in order to avoid voting for someone mildly-pro-choice, even though neither one could make the practice mroe or less legal?


3 posted on 07/10/2006 9:14:26 AM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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Unbeleivable that our leading candidate is a pro-choicer, who has never run for office, and who isn't even running....


4 posted on 07/10/2006 9:15:27 AM PDT by ConservativeDude
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To: xzins

has said repeatedly that she has no desire to be president.

has said repeatedly that she has no desire to be president.

has said repeatedly that she has no desire to be president.

has said repeatedly that she has no desire to be president.

has said repeatedly that she has no desire to be president.


5 posted on 07/10/2006 9:16:50 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: orionblamblam

Did you bother to read the remainder of my post?


6 posted on 07/10/2006 9:18:31 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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And what, exactly, do you think the President can do about abortion?

Appoint Supreme Court Justices.

After all the "right" to an abortion came from the Supreme Court.

7 posted on 07/10/2006 9:18:47 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: Graybeard58

That's what they all say, until....


8 posted on 07/10/2006 9:19:36 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: Graybeard58

Hasn't Hillary said the same?........


9 posted on 07/10/2006 9:20:14 AM PDT by Red Badger (Follow an IROC long enough and sooner or later you will wind up in a trailer park..........)
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To: onedoug

I believe her. She says she would like to be the commisioner of the NFL.


10 posted on 07/10/2006 9:20:35 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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I did not write the article, put it on the AP wire and publish it in a major newspaper.

I did not write the article, put it on the AP wire and publish it in a major newspaper.

I did not write the article, put it on the AP wire and publish it in a major newspaper.

I did not write the article, put it on the AP wire and publish it in a major newspaper.

11 posted on 07/10/2006 9:20:35 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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To: Graybeard58

>>And what, exactly, do you think the President can do about abortion?

> Appoint Supreme Court Justices.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Alito and Roberts refuse to answer questiosn regarding abortion?


12 posted on 07/10/2006 9:20:47 AM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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To: xzins

Yes. Didn't change things any.


13 posted on 07/10/2006 9:21:34 AM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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I did not write the article, put it on the AP wire and publish it in a major newspaper.

Nor did I say or imply that you did. It is standard procedure to address remarks about an article to the poster of the article.

14 posted on 07/10/2006 9:22:29 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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...has said repeatedly that she has no desire to be president.

lol...who cares what she wants?

Also, who would you rather have as President, someone who doesn't want it or someone (like Hillary, Gore, or Kerry) who burns with blind ambition for the office yet could care less if they are really qualified.

15 posted on 07/10/2006 9:23:07 AM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: orionblamblam
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Alito and Roberts refuse to answer questiosn regarding abortion?

Was their stance on the matter not clear?

16 posted on 07/10/2006 9:23:28 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Remember and pray for Sgt. Matt Maupin - MIA/POW- Iraq since 04/09/04)
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To: xzins

"I'll not vote for someone who describes herself as "mildly pro-choice." "

And I'll not vote for someone who (a) is not a tested-by-fire-from-liberals politician, and (b) who is not even INTERESTED in the job.

Also she also was pushing Israel down the 'roadmap' of Gaza withdrawal, and we know how well that is turning out. Not!

"Besides consigning her to trash bin of history, any alliance with McCain would identify her as a choice of the MSM."

A lot of MSM hype behind this, yes. What's wrong with real candidates with real accomplishments? Mitt Romney, George Allen, Mike Pence, etc.


17 posted on 07/10/2006 9:24:27 AM PDT by WOSG (-)
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To: Graybeard58

I did not say that you said that I said it.

(wanna cup of coffee...too early for beer.)


18 posted on 07/10/2006 9:27:54 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It. Supporting our Troops Means Praying for them to Win!)
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To: orionblamblam

"Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't Alito and Roberts refuse to answer questiosn regarding abortion?"

They answered questions about the Constitution, which made clear that they would defend the Constitution and not legislate from the bench.

Anyone who is a Constitutionalist Judge has to be against rulings that offend the Constitution's text and intent, and Roe v Wade is exhibit A of bad USSC rulings that are no more than judicial legislating.


19 posted on 07/10/2006 9:29:15 AM PDT by WOSG (-)
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> Was their stance on the matter not clear?

Reasonably so, but not *officially* so. Thus, they could easily surprise us by coming up with pro-choice rulings, if the issue ever comes up. USSC Justices have been known to do that sort of thing.

Personally, I think a "moderately pro-choice" stance would be a modest political positive... as that is basically the stance of the bulk of the populace. The simple fact is, the President can't do doodly-squat about this issue, except shoot him/herself in the foot with the voters.


20 posted on 07/10/2006 9:29:22 AM PDT by orionblamblam (I'm interested in science and preventing its corruption, so here I am.)
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