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Axing Sex, Swearing From Films Violates Copyright: Court
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Posted on 07/10/2006 8:14:23 AM PDT by steve-b

Deleting swearing, sex and violence from films on DVD or VHS violates copyright laws, a U.S. judge has ruled in a decision that could end controversial sanitizing done for some video-rental chains, cable services and the internet.

The ruling stemmed from a lawsuit brought by 16 U.S. directors — including Steven Spielberg, Robert Redford and Martin Scorsese — against three Utah-based companies that "scrub" films.

Judge Richard P. Matsch decreed on Thursday in Denver, Colo., that sanitizing movies to delete content that may offend some people is an "illegitimate business."

The judge also praised the motives of the Hollywood studios and directors behind the suit, ordering the companies that provide the service to hand over their inventories....

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: copyright; copyrightabuse; hollywood; lawsuit
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To: ghostmonkey
***BZZZZZTTTT*** Thank you for playing, and feel free to come back when you do your homework and know which side of the issue represents the libertarian view.
81 posted on 07/10/2006 8:46:06 AM PDT by steve-b ("Creation Science" is to the religous right what "Global Warming" is to the socialist left.)
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To: All

JUST FYI (exerpting is not always bad)

(b) EXEMPTION FROM TRADEMARK INFRINGEMENT.--Section 32
of the Trademark Act of 1946 (15 U.S.C. 1114) is amended by
adding at the end the following:
``(3)(A) Any person who engages in the conduct described in
paragraph (11) of section 110 of title 17, United States Code, and
who complies with the requirements set forth in that paragraph
S. 167--7

is not liable on account of such conduct for a violation of any
right under this Act. This subparagraph does not preclude liability,
nor shall it be construed to restrict the defenses or limitations
on rights granted under this Act, of a person for conduct not
described in paragraph (11) of section 110 of title 17, United States
Code, even if that person also engages in conduct described in
paragraph (11) of section 110 of such title.
``(B) A manufacturer, licensee, or licensor of technology that
enables the making of limited portions of audio or video content
of a motion picture imperceptible as described in subparagraph
(A) is not liable on account of such manufacture or license for
a violation of any right under this Act, if such manufacturer,
licensee, or licensor ensures that the technology provides a clear
and conspicuous notice at the beginning of each performance that
the performance of the motion picture is altered from the perform-
ance intended by the director or copyright holder of the motion
picture. The limitations on liability in subparagraph (A) and this
subparagraph shall not apply to a manufacturer, licensee, or
licensor of technology that fails to comply with this paragraph.
``(C) The requirement under subparagraph (B) to provide notice
shall apply only with respect to technology manufactured after
the end of the 180-day period beginning on the date of the enact-
ment of the Family Movie Act of 2005.


82 posted on 07/10/2006 8:46:26 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: linda_22003

Ha! Bravo.


83 posted on 07/10/2006 8:46:55 AM PDT by Constitution Day (Down with Half-Assery!)
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To: Borges
If you were a clothier and started altering designer clothes and selling them how long do you think it would take till Jordache or whoever knocked on your door?

If you bought a designer suit and hired a tailor to hem the slacks for you, should Armani have a case to sue?

Once you pay for the item, it's yours to change any way you wish, IMO. As long as your hypothetical designer clothing alteration business didn't attempt to pass the clothes off as original, unaltered work, I see absolutely no problem with that at all.

These businesses clearly and openly altered the content of individual copies of movies. They didn't try to deceive customers into thinking they were selling the original work of the studios. Every copy sold came from a separate, legal copy.

In addition, these same studios regularly do the very same thing to their own movies in order to show them on network television. If the practice is so patently offensive to them on an artistic level, why regularly eviscerate their own work?

I don't see a violation.

84 posted on 07/10/2006 8:46:58 AM PDT by TChris (Banning DDT wasn’t about birds. It was about power.)
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To: uglybiker

Mine only lasted for 17 seconds.


85 posted on 07/10/2006 8:47:53 AM PDT by Coronal
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To: CedarDave

B I N G O! The remaining question would be, who did the cleaning. Hopefully the lawyers for the defense are as smart as you on this one. Precedence has meaning.


86 posted on 07/10/2006 8:48:36 AM PDT by wita (truthspeaks@freerepublic.com)
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To: longtermmemmory
If I BUY a DVD for $20 and pay $5 EXTRA for a sanitized edit, which I completly own both copies. That should be legal.

From a legal standpoint, that's precisely what these businesses do. Every copy they sell has a legal, original copy either behind it, or sold with it. (Don't know which for sure.)

87 posted on 07/10/2006 8:49:02 AM PDT by TChris (Banning DDT wasn’t about birds. It was about power.)
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To: Constitution Day

There's another thread on this topic, with a huge # of posts, and it was dismaying to see people so willing to blow off the law, as long as it was something THEY thought was okay. Copyright law applies whether you like the people who produced the content or not. A nuisance, I know, but there it is.


88 posted on 07/10/2006 8:49:29 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: steve-b; ghostmonkey
Hi Steve!

ghost monkey wrote "Liberaltarian", not "libertarian". I suspect he/she meant there to be a difference between the two words.

89 posted on 07/10/2006 8:49:35 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Look up the word "copyright" before looking foolish.

What, exactly, is your point? Is this just free-form insult and mockery time, or do you have something meaningful to say?

90 posted on 07/10/2006 8:50:04 AM PDT by TChris (Banning DDT wasn’t about birds. It was about power.)
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To: steve-b
I have a question.....

What if, instead of editing the movie, the company offered a digital sequence that would be input (somehow) into your DVR that told the DVR what timeslices to skip and where to insert "bleeps" or other editing techniques? A person would buy the un-edited version of the movie and play it "using" the on-the-fly editing technique. It would be somewhat like using a DVR to skip commercials.

91 posted on 07/10/2006 8:50:59 AM PDT by Onelifetogive (Freerepublic - The website where "Freepers" is not in the spell checker dictionary...)
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To: Constitution Day
I see others on this have already taken you to task re: your lack of knowledge about copyright law.

Apparently I don't understand it. I thought once I bought a legal copy of a movie, I was free to play and edit it as I wish. It seems I am not.

92 posted on 07/10/2006 8:51:28 AM PDT by TChris (Banning DDT wasn’t about birds. It was about power.)
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To: steve-b

"Remix" audiotapes have existed for decades.

Too late to claim it is criminal now.

The musicians will even slip some exclusive cuts (in violation of their own contracts) to hip producers/DJs.


93 posted on 07/10/2006 8:52:51 AM PDT by weegee (Seasons greetings and happy holidays this June-July!)
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To: TChris

You are, certainly, with your individual copy. What these companies did was to alter content without the permission of the copyright holder, for resale purposes. Paying for a copy of the original doesn't cover the businesses in this case, since permission was never obtained.


94 posted on 07/10/2006 8:53:27 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: DoughtyOne

The obligatory "roll in the hay" scene in almost every movie is a big pet peeve of mine. They seldom do anything whatsoever to advance the plot. They are so interchangeable you could generally intercut one from a different movie and nobody would notice.


95 posted on 07/10/2006 8:54:34 AM PDT by Restorer
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To: CedarDave

I wonder if the case went to court as a means to test the law? Most of these companies, if not all, require the customer to purchase the video, then they "clean" it up for the customer. As for rentals, same deal. The company buys the video, then "cleans" it up. The companies can make the case that it is simply providing a service for it's customers. I don't know if that was the argument being made, but whatever it was, this judge didn't buy it.

A solution is for the companies to pay the copyright holders. There is money to be made, why not?


96 posted on 07/10/2006 8:54:42 AM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: steve-b

These guys are nuts. Don't they realize they'll sell fewer movies if they refuse to allow the 'scrubbing'?


97 posted on 07/10/2006 8:55:02 AM PDT by MEGoody (Ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.)
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To: antiRepublicrat

When states had official censor boards (and Baltimore had one that DID cut films into the 1980s and England STILL cuts films although their bans seem to be lifting), did they "violate copyright"?

The copyright violation would appear to be ANYTIME you rent a DVD to someone else. Read the opening screen. How many stores get "authorization" to rent titles?


98 posted on 07/10/2006 8:55:15 AM PDT by weegee (Seasons greetings and happy holidays this June-July!)
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To: antiRepublicrat
I don't know how they even thought it could be legal
It depends to me. If they paid the appropriate royalties then I don't see the problem, but then that would be allowed at the discretion of the original owner.

I just don't buy the stuff. We do have a device called "TV Guardian" that does a pretty good job of sanitizing this stuff in real time, but we just use it on the normal TV, for those times when we are caught off guard.

Cordially,
GE
99 posted on 07/10/2006 8:55:51 AM PDT by GrandEagle
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To: steve-b
Matsch ordered the companies named in the suit — CleanFlicks, Play It clean Video and CleanFilms — to immediately stop producing, creating and renting out the scrubbed films.

"We're disappointed," said Ray Lines, the head of CleanFlicks. "This is a typical case of David vs. Goliath, but in this case, Hollywood rewrote the ending. We're going to continue to fight."

100 posted on 07/10/2006 8:56:23 AM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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