Kilo-type 636 class boat
To: garbageseeker; GSlob; Jeff Head; Gengis Khan; CarrotAndStick
To: sukhoi-30mki
Perhaps recent decisions to use "less intense" sonar will help this effort. Or not.
3 posted on
07/10/2006 5:45:38 AM PDT by
ClearCase_guy
("He hits me, he cries, he runs to the court and sues me.")
To: sukhoi-30mki
Apparently the Chinese don't want us to find them. I wonder why?
To: sukhoi-30mki
Quiet diesel subs?
I drive a diesel. I hear diesel 18-wheelers on the highway. These things are noisy. How can a diesel sub be quiet?
I would think the technology would preclude that.
5 posted on
07/10/2006 5:53:07 AM PDT by
Bear_Slayer
(When liberty is outlawed only outlaws will have liberty)
To: sukhoi-30mki
I seem to recall a while back some company sold some quiet propeller technology to the Russians or maybe the Chinese.
8 posted on
07/10/2006 5:58:29 AM PDT by
palmer
(Money problems do not come from a lack of money, but from living an excessive, unrealistic lifestyle)
To: sukhoi-30mki
We have been working on this since I was a submarine sonar tech in 1987. This has been a problem for a while.
9 posted on
07/10/2006 6:00:00 AM PDT by
bmwcyle
(Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
To: sukhoi-30mki
It's easy just hang around gas stations that have diesel, there aren't that many....
11 posted on
07/10/2006 6:01:47 AM PDT by
jmq
(Islam=Religion of Peace)
To: sukhoi-30mki
I know someone who might be able to help
16 posted on
07/10/2006 6:05:47 AM PDT by
camle
(Keep your mind open and somebody will fill if full of something for you.)
To: sukhoi-30mki
diesel-powered submarines that are extremely quiet
Uh, I was under the, educated, impression that anything that moves in the water can be detected by the "bubbleheads". Has the US Navy LOST sonar capability?
20 posted on
07/10/2006 6:11:08 AM PDT by
brothers4thID
(Being lectured by Ted Kennedy on ethics is not unlike being lectured on dating protocol by Ted Bundy)
To: sukhoi-30mki
Steam-powered areoplane ping.
21 posted on
07/10/2006 6:11:56 AM PDT by
freedomlover
(This tagline has been pulled - - - - OK?)
To: sukhoi-30mki
Hollweird knew it first. ;)
45 posted on
07/10/2006 7:05:26 AM PDT by
kAcknor
(Don't flatter yourself.... It is a gun in my pocket.)
To: sukhoi-30mki
When the sub is running the diesel, patrol aircraft probes, can analyze the air, for exhaust fumes....as I understand the technique, fumes tend to be caught in atmospheric layers... also I would think that the diesel would have a big IR signature....but, when running deep, I understand that they are super quiet....the germans have a sub, that is powered with fuel cells...
55 posted on
07/10/2006 7:24:47 AM PDT by
thinking
To: sukhoi-30mki
The USN has been working with European nations, and some of the best and quietest DE's from those countries on lease to the USN for the last several years. You can bet that significant advances in finding, tracking, and destroying them are being made.
It is clear, a few years ago, that the USN leaderhip was very concerned about what the initial tests were showing.
Having said that, the DEs are slow when compared to blue water surface vessels or the SSNs, and therefore their ability to target these vessels is limited to litoral waters, or confined passages...or laying in wait for where they may transit in the blue waters based on intelligence. All of these can be taken into account with various ASW and transit methodologies to reduce the risk.
Nonetheless, the DEs are a very dangerous tool in the hands of a committed adversary. it is why the PLAN is acquiring and building so many of the KIlos, SOng, and Yuan class.
57 posted on
07/10/2006 7:28:14 AM PDT by
Jeff Head
(God, family, country)
To: sukhoi-30mki
Maybe a strong nose could detect them.
To: sukhoi-30mki
63 posted on
07/10/2006 7:45:58 AM PDT by
Big Otto
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