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Don't Be Afraid of the 'Christian Left'
Human Events Online ^ | 10 July 2006 | Ken Connor

Posted on 07/09/2006 10:46:07 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher

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Fine sentiments BUT am I unChristian to think this bloke a bit wet behind the ears?
1 posted on 07/09/2006 10:46:09 PM PDT by Aussie Dasher
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To: Aussie Dasher

You're absolutely right, Aussie. I know nothing about the guy, but his wimpiness and naivete are clear almost immediately. It's disappointing that this ran in the reliably hardcore Human Events. Makes me wonder what other crap they might start to run. I certainly hope this is a rare lapse and won't happen again soon.

The religious left is always stupid and usually obnoxiously self-righteous and arrogant. There is no point in dialogue with them. They must be opposed just like any other political enemy. And contrary to this opinion piece, it is a serious danger. Lots of folks who are conservative but interested in Christianity to the exclusion of everything else can be fooled by this crowd. That is exactly the religious left's aim, so dialogue with some of our own people is necessary on this issue, even though it shouldn't be.

Stupidity is, unfortunately, an extremely powerful force in politics.


2 posted on 07/09/2006 10:52:40 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: Aussie Dasher

We have and continue to throw money at every type of lazy charlatan. People claim disability for back pain, PTSD, ADHD, alcoholism, and every type of nonsense imaginable.

Paul said, "If they will not work, neither will they eat."
Second Thess. 3:10.

Jesus fed the flock and sent them home. He didn't tell them to quit their jobs and recive monthly checks for booze and cigarettes. What is so very hard here?


3 posted on 07/09/2006 10:54:16 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: Aussie Dasher

Depends... The main problem with the Christian Left is their penchant for making their faith subject to their political ideologies.


4 posted on 07/09/2006 10:54:39 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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If I'm not mistaken, Ken Connor, the author of this piece of drivel, is or was the head of a major "religious-right" organization. If I'm right, God help us.


5 posted on 07/09/2006 10:55:46 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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To: coconutt2000

Yes. I would add that they are idolators.


6 posted on 07/09/2006 10:56:25 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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He's right to highlight abortion. The evidence that he's wet behind the ears is in his irenic tone about Sharpton and Jackson--both of whom are nothing but thugs--blackmailers and baby-killers.


7 posted on 07/09/2006 10:56:45 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan
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"Fine sentiments BUT am I unChristian to think this bloke a bit wet behind the ears?"

"To the pure, all things are pure." (New Testament Book of Titus, Chapter 1, verse 15.)


8 posted on 07/09/2006 11:03:25 PM PDT by no dems (www.4condi.com)
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oh yeah, we need al sharpton on our side...yeah, in my nightmares...better to reduce the left to a puddle of jelly...christian atheist or jew...to hell with the useful idiots of the Left.


9 posted on 07/09/2006 11:04:09 PM PDT by wildcatf4f3 (high compression hothead here)
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IMO, the religious left is primarily composed of heretics. Christ was undoubtably more concerned about the spiritual health of people than the material needs of the poor. Although I can understand someone who wants to use the government to help others, the religious left usually combines their socialism with support for abortion and homosexuality. That just doesn't square with the Bible.

As for as the Reverend Sharpton goes, how can a professing Christian ignore the sin in people's lives while he works to feed them? If the poor are fed and not saved, they are literally no better off than when they were hungry.


10 posted on 07/09/2006 11:04:29 PM PDT by CitizenUSA
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To: coconutt2000
I disagree. I think the left has a penchant for making their political ideologies matters of faith. And I don't believe they are Christian. I believe it's just another hat they wear to try to lure people into supporting them.

Look at Ted Kennedy's preaching about minimum wage as the Christian thing to do. He doesn't care about any Christian acts, unless it will get votes for Dems.

It's part of their 'how can we fool them today' game plan. Note the toning down of Christian Fundementalist extremist talk lately. Do you believe they really had a change of heart? I don't. I think it's all politically motivated.

11 posted on 07/09/2006 11:10:11 PM PDT by Betty Jane
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Forgive me, but isn't "Christian Left" sort of an oxymoron?


12 posted on 07/09/2006 11:11:24 PM PDT by JulienBenda
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To: Betty Jane

If you stop and think about what I wrote, you'll see that that is pretty much what I said.


13 posted on 07/09/2006 11:12:54 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: JulienBenda

Unfortunately, not necessarily. Christianity does open up some big holes that the wrong people can easily drive a truck through.

However, it is probably true that most of the religious left are not Christians in any real sense, or even genuine believers in God.


14 posted on 07/09/2006 11:16:29 PM PDT by California Patriot ("That's not Charlie the Tuna out there. It's Jaws." -- Richard Nixon)
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You're right. I was thinking of what a leftist coworker told me in the spring of 2004. He said the dems would win the election because they were going to get the Chrstian vote.

They were going to show that the only moral vote was for the person (Kerry) who would help the poor, save the environment, show tolerance, etc. He became a mail order minister and put a religious bumper sticker on his car. It read, Who would Jesus bomb? It was incredible that he actually believed that. I see the Dems keep trying.

15 posted on 07/09/2006 11:21:06 PM PDT by Betty Jane
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Many liberal evangelicals claim that the church, in its political thinking, has neglected a major aspect of Christ's concern: the poor and vulnerable. Their most cherished phrase is "social justice," and they say we conservatives have neglected it. Again, let's not dismiss this criticism out of hand

I'll certainly dismiss it out of hand, because it's hogwash.

My church is well and deeply engaged in assisting the poor. The money I provide to the poor through my church is better and more efficiently targeted to meet real need than any money extorted by government through taxes and paid by some bureaucrat to subsidize the sociopolitical "victim" group du jour.

The entire essay is bunk, authored by someone who is already convinced that the left's peculiar spin on Christianity is holier and superior.

And just how does the left get away with throwing down monuments to the Ten Commandments as violating the separation of church and state, while sniffing and insisting that it's peculiar and insipid brand of wasteful and destructive Christianity be imposed on the rest of us through the tax system and bloated government?

16 posted on 07/09/2006 11:26:33 PM PDT by JCEccles
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Many liberal evangelicals claim that the church, in its political thinking, has neglected a major aspect of Christ's concern: the poor and vulnerable.

No, conservatives' rejection of the Religious Left is precisely because of the poor and vulnerable - shamelessly exploited by the Left for political gain. They are kept dependent on government for generations, "freeing" the father to impregnate as many girls as he can. They then neglect their duty to the vulnerable - conceived under their policies - by allowing them to be unceremoniously slaughtered.

They do stand up for the right to life... of those convicted in a court of law of taking life.

They do stand up for peace - if the enemies are terrorists and might, just might, face annhilation under a non-leftist government.

It's their hipocrisy that has undermined any potential credibility.

“Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. Ye shall know them by their fruits" (Matthew 7:15).

17 posted on 07/09/2006 11:29:34 PM PDT by Lexinom
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I agree. They seem to forget these words spoken by Jesus in Matthew 26:11: "The poor you will always have with you, but you will not always have me." When you look at the full context, its pretty clear that, while He thought helping the poor to be a worthy goal, He was trying to impress upon His listeners that spreading the gospel is the most important work of a Christian.


18 posted on 07/09/2006 11:48:56 PM PDT by srmorton
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After spending 30 years in the wilderness the "Christian left" is making its voice heard. From Washington, D.C., to Dallas, large conferences have been held in an attempt to politically mobilize these "progressive" Christians.

Traditionally, the definition of "progressive Christianity" is: Christianity with all the unpleasant stuff taken out. Of course, Christianity With All The Unpleasant Stuff Taken Out is a markedly different religion from mere Christianity, in Lewis's apt wordage.

19 posted on 07/09/2006 11:50:15 PM PDT by Irish Rose (Will work for chocolate.)
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To: California Patriot
According to Human events, thus edited,:

"Mr. Connor is chairman of the Center for a Just Society. He is a trial and appellate attorney, known for his successful representation of victims of nursing home abuse and neglect. He is a past president of the Family Research Council"

yitbos

20 posted on 07/09/2006 11:52:06 PM PDT by bruinbirdman ("Those who control language control minds.")
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