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To: governsleastgovernsbest
I still cannot figure out why the democrats are so adamantly opposed to a missle defense shield, and none of my liberal acquaintences are able to give me an answer, outside of a vague sense of: "well the right wing supports it, so it must be bad". It's almost as if the talking points on this issue haven't fully made the rounds. Being against a missle defense shield is like being against having a lock on your door under the premise that this will somehow "antagonize" a criminal and make him want to break into your house. I don't get it with these people.
12 posted on 07/09/2006 11:38:55 AM PDT by American Infidel (Check Out My Homepage for some cool bumper stickers. More to come.)
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To: American Infidel

Nice analogy, American! I love how China & Russia are against sanctions for North Korea because they feel it will "raise tensions" in the area. The only one who is raising tensions is Kim Jong ILL by making threats and launching missles!! As long as he knows the international community wont stand up to him, his beligerant behavior will continue. Once again, the U.N. demonstrates how useless and irrelevant it is.


18 posted on 07/09/2006 11:50:35 AM PDT by wingsof liberty
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To: American Infidel
I still cannot figure out why the democrats are so adamantly opposed to a missle defense shield, and none of my liberal acquaintences are able to give me an answer

The reason is that an effective missile defense significantly reduces the leverage other countries have on US policy.

30 posted on 07/09/2006 12:41:45 PM PDT by edsheppa
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To: American Infidel
I still cannot figure out why the democrats are so adamantly opposed to a missile defense shield.....

As best I can deduce from the liberal knuckleheads that I am acquainted with, their opposition to a missile defense is the cost and that it won't be 100% effective 100% of the time. Also it is money that could be spent on some social program like cradle to grave healthcare and to buy more votes for the democRATS. It's little more than that.

Sure, getting a missile defense system operational is going to be very expensive. It isn't going to be 100% all the time, and there will then be an effort to defeat the effectiveness of it. Military secrets /technology are the most costly and fleeting of all.

42 posted on 07/09/2006 1:38:13 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (Don't you think it's interesting how death and destruction seems to happen wherever Muslims gather?)
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To: American Infidel
Good afternoon.

While we were driving one day I had a close friend tell me that we couldn't stop all the missiles coming in if the Soviets attacked, and he didn't want he and his children to live in the world that would be left.

I told him the missiles might miss me and that he should reach behind the seat, grab my pistol right then and shoot himself, but to not try to take away my chance of surviving. He was horrified.

I miss my friend, but we just don't see things the same way.

Michael Frazier
43 posted on 07/09/2006 1:43:04 PM PDT by brazzaville (no surrender no retreat, well, maybe retreat's ok)
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To: American Infidel

RATs are so shallow, I think that SDI for them is nothing more than the link to Pres. Reagan, whom they hated and now to Pres. Bush whom they also hate, nothing more. They operate on pure hysteria/emotions. They are shallow and dangerous.


44 posted on 07/09/2006 1:48:06 PM PDT by brushcop (Lt. Harris, SFC Salie, CPL Long, SPC Hornbeck, B-Co, 2/69 3ID We will remember you always.)
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To: American Infidel

Originally (going back to the late '60s and the Nike missiles) effective missile defense meant that we didn't have to bend over for the Commies. The communists and fellow-travelers in the media and the Democratic Party pushed the ABM treaty, and opposed President Reagan's later Strategic Defense Initiative because these missile defense pulled some of the teeth from the communist world. These people had and have no interest in defending an economically, politically, and philosophically free America; their interest is in pushing communism. Such interest didn't end with the fall of the USSR.


57 posted on 07/09/2006 3:52:35 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: American Infidel
"I still cannot figure out why the democrats are so adamantly opposed to a missle defense shield, and none of my liberal acquaintences are able to give me an answer, outside of a vague sense of: "well the right wing supports it, so it must be bad". It's almost as if the talking points on this issue haven't fully made the rounds. Being against a missle defense shield is like being against having a lock on your door under the premise that this will somehow "antagonize" a criminal and make him want to break into your house. I don't get it with these people."

Leftists oppose our missile defense for a variety of reasons. For one thing, they *reactively* oppose all of President Bush's current plans. For another, they hated everything about President Reagan.

And leftists don't want the U.S. to put North Korea into a box with our missile defenses; instead, the Left wants us to appease North Korea with cash.

In short, the Left wants the U.S. appeasing and surrendering. It should come as no surprise that such views put them at odds with Reagan and Bush.

58 posted on 07/09/2006 3:53:52 PM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: American Infidel

The positions the left takes are often cumbersome for them. If you consider the fair tax as an example. Most sane people will tell you that this is a great idea.

The liberals will conceed that it may be a good option, BUT... that the wealthy are then not paying enough of their share of tax.

They always dig themselves into a hole when they try to say, "Yeah, but..." And they do this on a myriad of different issues.


66 posted on 07/10/2006 5:59:09 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny. "--Aeschylus)
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