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McGovern praises Canada on Vietnam draft dodgers
Reuters ^ | 7/9/06 | Allan Dowd

Posted on 07/09/2006 10:34:29 AM PDT by LdSentinal

CASTLEGAR, British Columbia (Reuters) - George McGovern, who ran for the U.S. presidency on an anti-Vietnam War platform, said on Saturday history will show Canada was right to have sheltered that era's war resisters.

McGovern, who was in Canada to speak to a reunion of Vietnam War draft dodgers, said the Iraq war was also "needless and mistaken," but he said it would be presumptuous of him to say Canada should again provide haven for U.S. deserters.

"I always appreciated the generosity and imagination of Canada... I think history will be on the side of the Canadians," McGovern, 83, said, prior to addressing the event in Castlegar, British Columbia.

McGovern, a U.S. senator from South Dakota and Democratic presidential candidate in 1972, called for American troops to be withdrawn from Vietnam in his presidential campaign platform. He also supported an amnesty for draft dodgers. He lost the presidential race to Richard Nixon in a landslide.

During the Vietnam War, the Canadian government viewed draft dodgers and military deserters as potential immigrants. More than 50,000 entered the country, although about half returned after President Carter granted amnesty in 1977 to those who fled the draft.

Many of the estimated 300 people at the "Our Way Home" reunion in Castlegar, about 375 miles east of Vancouver, believe Canada should be doing the same thing now.

Iraq war military deserters must now apply as political refugees, but Canadian immigration officials are refusing to allow them to argue they were fleeing an illegal war. Peace activists want that rule changed.

'BROKEN CONTRACT WITH THE YOUNG SOLDIER'

Kyle Snyder, 22, who served as a combat engineer in Iraq before deserting in protest admitted he was surprised by the change, and had entered Canada with an outdated view of its political position.

"The opposition was strange to me because I thought I was making the right decision under the Geneva Convention," said Snyder, one of about two dozen deserters who are pursuing refugee claims.

Gerry Condon, a Vietnam deserter helping Snyder, said the fact that the draft was eliminated should not matter. Many soldiers in Iraq are there only because of a lack of civilian jobs, or because their enlistments were involuntarily extended, he said.

"In my opinion, it is George Bush who has broken the contract with the young soldiers, and not the other way around," Condon said.

Peace activists blame Canada's refusal to accept deserters on Conservative Prime Minister Stephen Harper's desire for close relations with the White House, but the rule barring the "illegal war" argument in refugee claims dates to a previous Liberal government.

Tom Hayden, the veteran peace activist who addressed the event earlier in the week, said Canadians worried about a U.S. backlash should remember they survived any fallout from accepting Vietnam deserters.

"The problem here is that Harper and Bush are ideological bedfellows," Hayden said.

Organizers of the Castlegar event said they wanted to honor both the Americans resisters and Canadians who helped them. It was held in southeast British Columbia's Kootenay region because many draft dodgers settled there.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: canada; draftdodger; looney; mcgovern; nut; traitor
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1 posted on 07/09/2006 10:34:32 AM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: LdSentinal
Do liberals live for-frikken-ever?
2 posted on 07/09/2006 10:38:18 AM PDT by clintonh8r (Jack Murtha? Not in my Marine Corps!)
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To: LdSentinal

"The problem here is that Harper and Bush are ideological bedfellows," Hayden said.

Tet68 says, " At least they never slept with Jane Fonda!".


3 posted on 07/09/2006 10:38:19 AM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: LdSentinal

How did Karl Rove get him to say that? Amazing. I am in awe.


4 posted on 07/09/2006 10:39:29 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (Go home and fix Mexico)
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To: tet68
"The problem here is that Harper and Bush are ideological bedfellows," Hayden said.

This is a problem?

5 posted on 07/09/2006 10:39:39 AM PDT by RichInOC (Jane Fonda likes it long and hard. Just ask the Vietnamese Army.)
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To: tet68

Real American troops don't desert.


6 posted on 07/09/2006 10:39:40 AM PDT by Quark606
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To: clintonh8r

Note to the less than esteemed former senator:George,a lot of us savor the thought of reading your obit.in a morning paper-soon.


7 posted on 07/09/2006 10:41:01 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (Every time a toilet flushes,another liberal gets his brains.)
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To: LdSentinal; 91B; HiJinx; Spiff; MJY1288; xzins; Calpernia; clintonh8r; TEXOKIE; windchime; ...
No Good, Rotten, Scum Sucking, Yellow-Backed, Gutless, Sorry illegitimate Sons of an Ill-Begotten Whore! Including McGovern!
8 posted on 07/09/2006 10:42:15 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: LdSentinal
What ever happened to the concepts of treason and sedition?George McGovern would probably have gotten in more trouble if he spoke out against abortion or affirmative action rather than attacking his own country overseas.
9 posted on 07/09/2006 10:45:39 AM PDT by ac-rep
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To: clintonh8r
Do liberals live for-frikken-ever?

You know ... that is a cogent and very depressing question.
10 posted on 07/09/2006 10:46:00 AM PDT by gipper81
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To: LdSentinal
Another black mark on Jimmah's legacy.
We didn't need the cowards back. I am not suggesting that you couldn't conscientiously object to the war. If you object you refuse to go, and face the consequences. You do not do the cowardly thing and run away, that is unless you are a coward. We didn't need the cowards back.
11 posted on 07/09/2006 10:46:20 AM PDT by Dudesdad (It is only funny until someone gets hurt. Then it is hilarious)
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To: LdSentinal
George seems to be totally oblivious as to how he managed to lose 49 states to Richard Nixon running on an anti-war platform.

On the side of history, the anti-war activists and their methods were made larger than life by the MSM and the majority of Americans were made to believe they were in the minority.

12 posted on 07/09/2006 10:49:39 AM PDT by N. Theknow ((Kennedys - Can't drive, can't fly, can't ski, can't skipper a boat - But they know what's best.))
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To: LdSentinal

Those who refuse to support and defend a state have no claim to protection by that state. Killing an anarchist or a pacifist should not be defined as "murder" in a legalistic sense. The offense against the state, if any, should be "Using deadly weapons inside city limits," or "Creating a traffic hazard," or "Endangering bystanders," or other misdemeanor.

Lazarus Long


13 posted on 07/09/2006 10:50:14 AM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran ("Remember the Alamo, Goliad and WACO, It is Time for a new San Jacinto")
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"The opposition was strange to me because I thought I was making the right decision under the Geneva Convention," said Snyder, one of about two dozen deserters who are pursuing refugee claims.

Well maybe you thought wrong, dumb-@ss!

14 posted on 07/09/2006 10:55:35 AM PDT by DTogo (I haven't left the GOP, the GOP left me.)
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To: HuntsvilleTxVeteran

My personal preference would be just cite them for violating whatever noise ordinance the city has. ;)


15 posted on 07/09/2006 10:56:03 AM PDT by Renderofveils
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To: clintonh8r

Yeah I know what you mean. I didn't realize he was still alive.


16 posted on 07/09/2006 11:01:15 AM PDT by ContraryMary (New Jersey -- Superfund cleanup capital of the U.S.A.)
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To: LdSentinal

I voted for Richard M. Nixon for POTUS in the first election I was old enough to vote in. I'd vote for him over Mushy McGovern again and again, regardless of Watergate, etc. Kerry and Gore are roughly the same overall quality as McGovern. [Clinton is just white trash with an over-achiever for a wife.] God has not been kind to the Democrat Party over the years.


17 posted on 07/09/2006 11:02:22 AM PDT by Clara Lou (A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. --I. Kristol)
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To: ContraryMary

LOL! I was thinking that he'd passed on, too. Must have been one of those other fuzzy-headed idiots.


18 posted on 07/09/2006 11:03:12 AM PDT by Clara Lou (A conservative is a liberal who has been mugged by reality. --I. Kristol)
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To: N. Theknow
George seems to be (is) totally oblivious as to how he managed to lose 49 states to Richard Nixon running on an anti-war platform.

Just cleaning it up a bit ...

19 posted on 07/09/2006 11:05:19 AM PDT by catpuppy
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To: Farmer Dean; cardinal4

I recently finished the book by Ambrose about U S Airmen in WW2. Quite a bit of the book was devoted to McGovern. He may have changed drastically over the years, but when his squadron was stationed in Italy, he flew a lot of dangerous missions over nazi-occupied Europe.


20 posted on 07/09/2006 11:08:32 AM PDT by Ax ("Crusader?" Hey, I kind of like that.)
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