American Cancer Society catches the Surgeon General in an outright lie...

United Pro Smoker's Newsletter ^ | July 1, 2006

[DennisR]

I guess the surgeon general has ignored the 39-year study that shows the passive-smoking problem to be a lie: http://www.fumento.com/disease/smokingdebate.html.

[RandallFlagg]

You bet!
And by the time the challenges to the laws that kicked smokers out are successfully challenged, the relevent businesses will have already closed and they can make a NEW law via referendum.
The Colorado law CAN be tossed out for it's unconstitutionality alone -it exempts casinos.
Equal protection clause.

[RandallFlagg]

Your link didn't work for me.

[JennysCool]

Again, as they say, this has never been about tobacco control, it has always been about people control.

This is nothing more than a 40-plus-year-old social experiment.

[RandallFlagg]

http://www.fumento.com/disease/smokingdebate.html

[patton]

One of the ballot ammendments in CA appears to make the CA government liable for damages when regulations reduce property values (a business is a property...)

[RandallFlagg]

I see! Ya put a period at the end of your link.

[hubbubhubbub]

We are the healthiest population on the planet! Why do we need a Surgeon General anyway? What is he a General of?

[Egon]

I'm sorry. But I never ready anything put out by ASH, the propaganda machine. Got to keep the blood pressure normal you know.

That's cool. I'd seen the information elsewhere, and ASH just happened to come up on the search. I know nothing about them, actually.

This narrow example of information they're giving, though, doesn't sound particularly political or propogandish. It states simply that body fixes itself pretty spectacularly, and in very short order.

What it tells me is that if the recovery rate for smokers is this fast, that the disease rates for non-smokers has been wildly exaggerated.

[DJ MacWoW]

If this is correct for smokers, what are the timelines like for people that don't inhale directly from cigarettes multiple times a day?

Nil

Dr. Richard Doll, the scientist who first linked active smoking to lung cancer, said in a 2001 radio interview, "The effects of other people smoking in my presence is so small it doesn't worry me."

Claims of secondhand smoke risks don't pass science test

[RandallFlagg]

PLEASE! Show me ONE autopsy report that says that a person died from being exposed to secondhand smoke.

[SpaceBar]

What is he a General of?

Sozialtechnik.

[Gabz]

This is a planned strategy, IMHO. And the blatant dishonesty makes me ill.

I'm with you my friend.....I'm with you.

My friend down the road is really funny about all of this. She's in her 20s and is a non-smoker. If she catches something on the news about the bogus BS from the antis she's ont he phone to me immediately to see if I caught. Even she knows most of it is hogwash and is sickened over it.

[Triggerhippie]

Who said anything about second hand smoke?

[DennisR]

Whoops - the period got included in the URL. Thanks for reposting.

[DJ MacWoW]

If you want to kill yourself that's fine, but don't saddle the rest of us with your medical bills.

A "conservative" that buys into the liberal dogma. Interesting.

WORLD HEALTH ORGANIZATION BURIES SECOND-HAND SMOKE STUDY

Fact: The study found no statistically significant risk existed for non-smokers who either lived or worked with smokers.

[Triggerhippie]

Oh, I think I see where our communication breakdown happened...

When I said it would make things interesting for the rest of us, I meant to watch.

Again, provided that a certain number of cigarettes are poisoned... Otherwise watching someone smoke would be as dull as dishwater. Every thousandth one, however, would be sheer entertainment.

[KarlInOhio]

If all smokers were to stop today and live long healthy lives, Social Security and corporate pension plans would collapse many years earlier because their payment schedules are based on a certain percentage of the population dying early.

[RandallFlagg]

Oh, I'm sorry. You referred to murdering smokers. Nothing less.

Mixed you up there with another tobaccophobic.