[WorkingClassFilth]

I don't think continental Europeans are going to warm up to American values anytime soon - even in the face of their own extinction. Part of what America became was because Europe's freedom loving people took a risk on a new life and left their more timid and complacent brethern at home to replicate and deepen their intellectual and moral crisis. Like the third world brain-drain, there may be a point where their own recovery is now hopeless without intervention.

BTW, friends just returned from Iceland and said it was the most fantastic place they'd ever been.

[bert]

I'm more concerned about the state of Massachuttes than Europe. All North of New York is going down the EU crapper.

[Leifur]

Thanks for that, say hi to your friends from me

But maybe you are correct in some way, but I beliewe the immigration issue, the failure of multiculturalism and continuing economic failure of the EU is opening up more and more people´s eyes.

But the thing is, there are more structural barriers for such a new "old" movement here as the governmental process is not as open, at least not on the local levels. The media is all part of the elitist movement that now calls the shots and although the internet is opening thing up a little it is a difficult process ahead.

And because of these barriers, and because of the past (both interconnected) it is sad that many that have the right general thinking in these matters initially go towards the far right, because they are the only ones that speak up as mainstream voices are subjugated. And then the facists rein the people in and bring them toward their evil other agendas.

At least this seems to be the case on the mainland.

[tonycavanagh]

re :. Part of what America became was because Europe's freedom loving people took a risk on a new life and left their more timid and complacent brethern at home to replicate and deepen their intellectual and moral crisis.

LOL They should ban mentioning Europe on FR because it encourages freepers to write rubbish such as this.

There were a whole raft or reasons why some stayed and some left to go abroad.

And major difference between American and European society may have something to do with the two major destructive wars that were fought on European soil, in both occasions part of Europe was reduced to almost stone age living .

[napscoordinator]

BTW, friends just returned from Iceland and said it was the most fantastic place they'd ever been.


I would think most Americans would think that all of Europe is a fantastic place while on vacation. There is some great things about Europe to see and do. The good news for us Americans who visit Europe is that we don't have to pay taxes, listen to the socialist rulers, and even live there. So it does not surprise me that you friends said that Iceland is a fantastic place. I am sure it is for two weeks or so.