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To: CarolinaGuitarman
"What fictions?"

Darwin's "Origin of the Species" is a complete fiction.

Darwiniacs have had a couple of hundred years to come up with a single fossil record that demonstrates evolution actually happened within any of the billions of species occupying Mother Earth -- and they've come up with nothing. The "Theory of Evolution" isn't a scientific theory at all, it's hokum, pure and simple. The "best" they have ever come up with are examples such as: certain dinosaurs have certain things in common with certain modern birds -- ergo modern birds "must" have evolved from dinosaurs. No fossil record? Well, can't be sure why that is, but it still "must" have happened that way. Some science!

If you have a single piece of evidence that actually supports Darwin, I'd love to see it.
20 posted on 07/09/2006 7:07:19 AM PDT by vetsvette (Bring Him Back)
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To: vetsvette
"Darwiniacs have had a couple of hundred years to come up with a single fossil record that demonstrates evolution actually happened within any of the billions of species occupying Mother Earth -- and they've come up with nothing."

That's only true if you completely ignore the fossil record (BTW, there's only one fossil record).

"The "best" they have ever come up with are examples such as: certain dinosaurs have certain things in common with certain modern birds -- ergo modern birds "must" have evolved from dinosaurs."

Your ignorance of what scientists have done is not sufficient evidence to back your claim. It is pretty funny though. :)

"No fossil record?"

You're delusional.

"Well, can't be sure why that is, but it still "must" have happened that way. Some science!"

It only looks that way to you because you don't know what you are talking about. The fossil record is huge and overwhelmingly supports evolution. As does the DNA evidence. That you don't know anything about biology is not sufficient reason to make such silly statements about it.

"If you have a single piece of evidence that actually supports Darwin, I'd love to see it."

I don't think you are capable of seeing any of the evidence, but here goes:

http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/


Your post is one of the funniest I have read in a while though. :)
22 posted on 07/09/2006 7:15:00 AM PDT by CarolinaGuitarman (Gas up your tanks!!)
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To: vetsvette
When you use the derrogatory term 'darwiniacs' (implying a kinship to maniacs) or when a supporter of evolution uses the term 'CRIDers', it is obvious there is little chance of discussion and great potential for pissing contests. The issues of denigrating science in public education AND excluding any mention of a Creator are important and only through fair discussion will these issues be resolved properly. Please refrain from labeling for insult purposes.
24 posted on 07/09/2006 7:20:54 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: vetsvette
If you have a single piece of evidence that actually supports Darwin, I'd love to see it.

I don't believe you would.

25 posted on 07/09/2006 7:23:32 AM PDT by Oztrich Boy (A brute kills for pleasure. A fool kills from hate - Robert A Heinlein)
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To: vetsvette

"...If you have a single piece of evidence that actually supports Darwin, I'd love to see it."

I rather doubt the accuracy of that statement.


26 posted on 07/09/2006 7:25:43 AM PDT by From many - one.
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To: vetsvette
If you have a single piece of evidence that actually supports Darwin, I'd love to see it.

Why? It wouldn't really make any difference, would it?

This is for the lurkers: TONS OF EVIDENCE OF EVOLUTION.

30 posted on 07/09/2006 7:37:23 AM PDT by PatrickHenry (The Enlightenment gave us individual rights, free enterprise, and the theory of evolution.)
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To: vetsvette
If you have a single piece of evidence that actually supports Darwin, I'd love to see it.

That's easy! This one is also a transitional. Note its position in the chart which follows (hint--in the upper center):




Fossil: KNM-ER 3733

Site: Koobi Fora (Upper KBS tuff, area 104), Lake Turkana, Kenya (4, 1)

Discovered By: B. Ngeneo, 1975 (1)

Estimated Age of Fossil: 1.75 mya * determined by Stratigraphic, faunal, paleomagnetic & radiometric data (1, 4)

Species Name: Homo ergaster (1, 7, 8), Homo erectus (3, 4, 7), Homo erectus ergaster (25)

Gender: Female (species presumed to be sexually dimorphic) (1, 8)

Cranial Capacity: 850 cc (1, 3, 4)

Information: Tools found in same layer (8, 9). Found with KNM-ER 406 A. boisei (effectively eliminating single species hypothesis) (1)

Interpretation: Adult (based on cranial sutures, molar eruption and dental wear) (1)

See original source for notes:
Source: http://www.mos.org/evolution/fossils/fossilview.php?fid=33


Source: http://wwwrses.anu.edu.au/environment/eePages/eeDating/HumanEvol_info.html

42 posted on 07/09/2006 8:17:17 AM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: vetsvette
If you have a single piece of evidence that actually supports Darwin, I'd love to see it.




Fossil: Sts 5

Site: Sterkfontein Cave, South Africa (1)

Discovered By: R. Broom & J. Robinson 1947 (1)

Estimated Age of Fossil: 2.5 mya * determined by Stratigraphic, floral & faunal data (1, 4)

Species Name: Australopithecus africanus (1, 2)

Gender: Male (based on CAT scan of wisdom teeth roots) (1, 30) Female (original interpretation) (4)

Cranial Capacity: 485 cc (2, 4)

Information: No tools found in same layer (4)

Interpretation: Erect posture (based on forward facing foramen magnum) (8)

Nickname: Mrs. Ples (1)

See original source for notes:
http://www.mos.org/evolution/fossils/fossilview.php?fid=24

52 posted on 07/09/2006 9:26:34 AM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: vetsvette
If you have a single piece of evidence that actually supports Darwin, I'd love to see it.

Note the number of this specimen, KNM-WT 15000. This stands for Kenya National Museum, West Turkana area, specimen #15,000. There are a lot of fossil producing areas in Kenya. There are a lot of countries in Africa which produce fossils. There are a lot of countries on other continents chich produce fossils. That means there are hundreds of thousands of fossils kicking around.

I can post more if you want, but I don't want to use up all the bandwidth.



Fossil: KNM-WT 15000

Site: Nariokotome, West Turkana, Kenya (1)

Discovered By: K. Kimeu, 1984 (1)

Estimated Age of Fossil: 1.6 mya * determined by Stratigraphic, faunal & radiometric data (1, 4)

Species Name: Homo ergaster (1, 7, 8), Homo erectus (3, 4, 7, 10), Homo erectus ergaster (25)

Gender: Male (based on pelvis, browridge) (1, 8, 9)

Cranial Capacity: 880 (909 as adult) cc (1)

Information: Most complete early hominid skeleton (80 bones and skull) (1, 8)

Interpretation: Hairless and dark pigmented body (based on environment, limb proportions) (7, 8, 9). Juvenile (9-12 based on 2nd molar eruption and unfused growth plates) (1, 3, 4, 7, 8). Juvenile (8 years old based on recent studies on tooth development) (27). Incapable of speech (based on narrowing of spinal canal in thoracic region) (1)

Nickname: Turkana Boy (1), Nariokotome Boy

See original source for notes:
Source: http://www.mos.org/evolution/fossils/fossilview.php?fid=38

57 posted on 07/09/2006 9:51:18 AM PDT by Coyoteman (I love the sound of beta decay in the morning!)
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To: vetsvette
"If you have a single piece of evidence that actually supports Darwin, I'd love to see it."

Stand back as the propagandists post their colorful, irrelevant, blacklight photographed monkey skulls for the 10,001st time. :o)

83 posted on 07/09/2006 2:40:46 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Atheist and Fool are synonyms; Evolution is where fools hide from the sunrise)
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To: vetsvette
>..Darwiniacs have had a couple of hundred years to come up with a single fossil record that demonstrates evolution actually happened ...

How do you reconcile your post with the recent discovery of Tiktaalik?

The paleontologists used the ToE in two ways: 1) it predicts what a transitional between fish and amphibians should look like, and 2) it predicts what ancient environment it was likely to have lived in.

Both predictions were fulfilled, as usual.

...The "Theory of Evolution" isn't a scientific theory at all, it's hokum, pure and simple...

I used this example on another thread:

If a genetic marker is found in both cows and whales, but is not found in horses, tell which category each animal goes in: 1) will definitely have the same marker. 2) definitely won't. 3) not enough data.
People, pangolins, 'possums, pigs, platypuses, camels, cats, hippos, rhinos, elephants, zebras, giraffes, dogs?

The ToE can answer questions like this. So far, it's answers have always been confirmed by actual genetic testing.

This contradicts your claim that the theory is hokum.

Furthermore, neither the ID nor the creationist faction of the anti-evolution coalition can answer these questions correctly. This shows that neither one is as powerful as standard biology. This fact, coupled with the fact that neither one is a scientific theory, shows that they have no place in science classes.

98 posted on 07/09/2006 4:23:34 PM PDT by Virginia-American
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To: vetsvette

"If you have a single piece of evidence that actually supports Darwin, I'd love to see it."

Millions of pieces of evidence. Peruse these threads, there are things being posted all the time. And if you have 1 single solitary piece of evidence for God, lets have it.


103 posted on 07/09/2006 5:24:19 PM PDT by SaveUS
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To: vetsvette
If you have a single piece of evidence that actually supports Darwin, I'd love to see it.

Are you identical to your parents (who are identical to one another)? If not, it is Evolution in action.

If so, please report to Believe It Or Not ASAP! You could win some bucks.

108 posted on 07/09/2006 6:14:33 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Let them die of thirst in the dark.)
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