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Court Rules Against Sanitizing Films
AP ^ | Saturday July 8, 9:52 pm

Posted on 07/08/2006 9:24:52 PM PDT by BenLurkin

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) -- Sanitizing movies on DVD or VHS tape violates federal copyright laws, and several companies that scrub films must turn over their inventory to Hollywood studios, an appeals judge ruled.

Editing movies to delete objectionable language, sex and violence is an "illegitimate business" that hurts Hollywood studios and directors who own the movie rights, said U.S. District Judge Richard P. Matsch in a decision released Thursday in Denver.

"Their (studios and directors) objective ... is to stop the infringement because of its irreparable injury to the creative artistic expression in the copyrighted movies," the judge wrote. "There is a public interest in providing such protection."

Matsch ordered the companies named in the suit, including CleanFlicks, Play It Clean Video and CleanFilms, to stop "producing, manufacturing, creating" and renting edited movies. The businesses also must turn over their inventory to the movie studios within five days of the ruling.

"We're disappointed," CleanFlicks chief executive Ray Lines said. "This is a typical case of David vs. Goliath, but in this case, Hollywood rewrote the ending. We're going to continue to fight."

CleanFlicks produces and distributes sanitized copies of Hollywood films on DVD by burning edited versions of movies onto blank discs. The scrubbed films are sold over the Internet and to video stores.

As many as 90 video stores nationwide -- about half of them in Utah -- purchase movies from CleanFlicks, Lines said. It's unclear how the ruling may effect those stores.

The controversy began in 1998 when the owners of Sunrise Family Video began deleting scenes from "Titanic" that showed a naked Kate Winselt.

The scrubbing caused an uproar in Hollywood, resulting in several lawsuits and countersuits.

Directors can feel vindicated by the ruling, said Michael Apted, president of the Director's Guild of America.

"Audiences can now be assured that the films they buy or rent are the vision of the filmmakers who made them and not the arbitrary choices of a third-party editor," he said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: busybodies; christianmedia; churchlady; cleanflicks; copyright; directorsguild; fairuse; film; hollywood; restrictchoices; richardmatsch; sanitize; secularselfrighteous; unelectedjudges; video
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Read Evalyn Waugh's The Loved One before you go. I've taken the tour bus of move stars' homes and around L.A. a few times. It's a vice. I like being around people who are seeing something new...


641 posted on 07/09/2006 11:52:06 PM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: albyjimc2
albyjimc2 wrote:
Conservatives like you make me ashamed to call myself one.

Comment:

From your postings I would not have guessed that you called your self a conservative.

albyjimc2 wrote:
You want to see disgusting, go to Europe and watch some comercials on public TV. Listen to the things they say.

Comment:

Could it be that you comment about Europe is the very reason Europe is fast fading from world prominence.

Many countries around the world certainly understand the destructive nature of pornography on their people so much better than the elitists Europeans.

albyjimc2 wrote:
You want controlled media, move to North Korea.

Comment:
Hey, why move to North Korea when I live in liberal California.
642 posted on 07/09/2006 11:54:38 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Speak Softly and Carry A Big Stick)
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To: Republican Wildcat
Why don't you just drop this and quit acting silly?

Why not just answer the question? Can I edit my own tapes? And can I get someone to edit them for me?

643 posted on 07/09/2006 11:55:10 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: durasell

Amen to that.


644 posted on 07/09/2006 11:55:22 PM PDT by OKIEDOC (Speak Softly and Carry A Big Stick)
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To: durasell

http://www.seeing-stars.com/Buried2/PierceBros.shtml

Westwood memorial park, where all the best stars are buried, its amazing how many they have in one little place.


645 posted on 07/09/2006 11:57:38 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser ("You can't really dust for vomit.")
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Interesting. I'm not an LA fan. When I go there on business I try to get in and out as quickly as possible


646 posted on 07/10/2006 12:01:04 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
No, they did do something wrong in this, they altered something that they didn't have permission to do, whether its something you agree with or not, it was wrong. Liberal or conservative, it was wrong.

Just "wrong" or in fact and in law "illegal"? There's a big difference. It might be wrong to draw Hitler mustaches on Hillary Clinton's face on a copy of her book that I purchased, but is it illegal?

647 posted on 07/10/2006 12:01:12 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: FreedomCalls

That question and others like it have already been answered - numerous times.


648 posted on 07/10/2006 12:02:50 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: durasell

I hear ya, I have spent immeasurable hours at LAX, SNA, ONT, BUR and LGB trying to catch flights as a standby.

But I fly free, so a one day trip is easy.


649 posted on 07/10/2006 12:03:04 AM PDT by Central Scrutiniser ("You can't really dust for vomit.")
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To: OKIEDOC

Hollywood is a high risk professional arena.


650 posted on 07/10/2006 12:03:22 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: FreedomCalls

Do you really want your question to be answered for the 25th time?

Comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it?


651 posted on 07/10/2006 12:03:55 AM PDT by Central Scrutiniser ("You can't really dust for vomit.")
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To: FreedomCalls

Yes, violations of the law are by definition illegal.


652 posted on 07/10/2006 12:05:15 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: durasell
Films are cleaned up all the time for airplanes, television and foreign markets. The terms of the edits and distribution are clearly spelled out in the contracts.

But the judge said that those edits cause "irreparable injury to the creative artistic expression in the copyrighted movies."

653 posted on 07/10/2006 12:07:37 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: Central Scrutiniser

Then you should go to Canter's deli out in the Fairfax, it's kind of like a cemetary. 80 year old guys in bedroom slippers, reading Variety and eating soup. Talk to them and you'll find out they used to write for Beverly Hillbillies or Jack Benny. Sherwood Schwartz is a god among the Canter's crowd...


654 posted on 07/10/2006 12:08:09 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: FreedomCalls

The judge is essentially full of crap in that part of the ruling. The reason it was illegal is because the copyrighted works were being altered and distributed without the authorization of the copyright owner. The opinion of the Court needed to be no longer than that.


655 posted on 07/10/2006 12:11:54 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: FreedomCalls

But the judge said that those edits cause "irreparable injury to the creative artistic expression in the copyrighted movies."



Films edited for airplanes, foreign markets etc. have the edits approved by the copyright holder. So, if I wanted to argue with you, I'd say that the edits are skillfully done with much agonizing over the contex, etc. In fact, the guys in Utah were probably editing along the same lines as the airline edits, etc. However, the Utah guys were editing without permission.

Let's be flat out honest here. The Utah guys saw a market that wasn't being addressed. Being "go getter" types, they saw an opportunity. This is all fine and good, except they didn't pay the copyright holder. It's as if they found a vacant field next to a busy highway and built a Dairy Queen on it without asking the owner's permission.


656 posted on 07/10/2006 12:14:58 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
Central Scrutiniser wrote:
They don't, you are rambling and making a fool of yourself.

Comment:

You do see yourself as a serious person.

Maybe way to serious for you own personal health.

I once knew a person who was very serious and really cranky, almost to the point of being a nitpicker.

This seriousness led to his suffering from Dyschezia caused by a condition of Anismus.

With this in mind you might just want to take a deep breath, relax and maybe if you have a friend go out and have a few laughs.
657 posted on 07/10/2006 12:27:23 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (Speak Softly and Carry A Big Stick)
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To: OKIEDOC

You don't know me.

I was the class clown in high school and have a great sense of humor. I have found this entire thread to be quite hilarious.

I also raise award winning clams.


658 posted on 07/10/2006 12:29:29 AM PDT by Central Scrutiniser ("You can't really dust for vomit.")
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To: durasell

This is same judge that ruled out any evidence in the Oklahoma City bombing trial tying in Arab participation.


659 posted on 07/10/2006 12:32:04 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (Speak Softly and Carry A Big Stick)
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To: albyjimc2
Have you tried relaxation for your problem.
660 posted on 07/10/2006 12:33:57 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (Speak Softly and Carry A Big Stick)
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