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Court Rules Against Sanitizing Films
AP ^ | Saturday July 8, 9:52 pm

Posted on 07/08/2006 9:24:52 PM PDT by BenLurkin

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) -- Sanitizing movies on DVD or VHS tape violates federal copyright laws, and several companies that scrub films must turn over their inventory to Hollywood studios, an appeals judge ruled.

Editing movies to delete objectionable language, sex and violence is an "illegitimate business" that hurts Hollywood studios and directors who own the movie rights, said U.S. District Judge Richard P. Matsch in a decision released Thursday in Denver.

"Their (studios and directors) objective ... is to stop the infringement because of its irreparable injury to the creative artistic expression in the copyrighted movies," the judge wrote. "There is a public interest in providing such protection."

Matsch ordered the companies named in the suit, including CleanFlicks, Play It Clean Video and CleanFilms, to stop "producing, manufacturing, creating" and renting edited movies. The businesses also must turn over their inventory to the movie studios within five days of the ruling.

"We're disappointed," CleanFlicks chief executive Ray Lines said. "This is a typical case of David vs. Goliath, but in this case, Hollywood rewrote the ending. We're going to continue to fight."

CleanFlicks produces and distributes sanitized copies of Hollywood films on DVD by burning edited versions of movies onto blank discs. The scrubbed films are sold over the Internet and to video stores.

As many as 90 video stores nationwide -- about half of them in Utah -- purchase movies from CleanFlicks, Lines said. It's unclear how the ruling may effect those stores.

The controversy began in 1998 when the owners of Sunrise Family Video began deleting scenes from "Titanic" that showed a naked Kate Winselt.

The scrubbing caused an uproar in Hollywood, resulting in several lawsuits and countersuits.

Directors can feel vindicated by the ruling, said Michael Apted, president of the Director's Guild of America.

"Audiences can now be assured that the films they buy or rent are the vision of the filmmakers who made them and not the arbitrary choices of a third-party editor," he said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Utah
KEYWORDS: busybodies; christianmedia; churchlady; cleanflicks; copyright; directorsguild; fairuse; film; hollywood; restrictchoices; richardmatsch; sanitize; secularselfrighteous; unelectedjudges; video
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To: FreedomCalls

It doesn't matter, they are altering a copyrighted work and selling and distributing it.

You can do whatever you wish to a college text book or to a hillary book. What you cannot do is alter or change the materials such that it would affect the copyright and sell or distribute the altered version. Its theft of intellectual property.


201 posted on 07/09/2006 12:22:01 AM PDT by Central Scrutiniser ("You can't really dust for vomit.")
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To: durasell
And years later it became a holiday favorite specifically because of the greed displayed to steal the cash and ruin poor George's life.

We all agree Hollyweird has lost any morals it had long ago, but they didn't lose their legal standing because of it.
202 posted on 07/09/2006 12:22:19 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: BenLurkin
Hollywierd pumps out perverse dreck by the bushel and makes a fortune off of it.

No one is forcing you to force your kids to watch that "perverse dreck". If you're paying to watch that "perverse dreck", that's your fault and not Hollyweird's.

203 posted on 07/09/2006 12:22:53 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: BenLurkin
Directors can feel vindicated by the ruling, said Michael Apted, president of the Director's Guild of America.

"Audiences can now be assured that the films they buy or rent are the vision of the filmmakers who made them and not the arbitrary choices of a third-party editor," he said.


Comment:

Personally pardoner I do not much care for Hollywood writers, directors and studio heads.

It is obvious by the crummy movies they burden us with that they have little or no use for what I really like to watch.

Given a choice, I would rather rent a movie with out all the vulgarity, profanity, uncouthness, vileness, unwholesomeness and filthiness you uncouth foulmouthed uncivilized ignorant scumbag moron.

Dose this also mean that AMC can no longer mute the cuss words in certain movies.

Yep, these sphincter minded leftists Hollywood directors are so worried about the integrity of their films that maybe, just maybe they might try making a movie based on good direction and acting with out having to depend on sick perverted story lines and words to keep the audiences attention.

Integrity, these people would not know integrity unless Mr. Integrity was a lesbian or homosexual.
204 posted on 07/09/2006 12:24:10 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (Speak Softly and Carry A Big Stick)
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To: mbmb
Of course you're allowed to. What you can't do is copy the book, make some alterations, and then sell it.

Can I pay someone to make the alterations for me in a book I've already purchased?

205 posted on 07/09/2006 12:24:18 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: durasell
The name of the car and certain components as well as features have copyrighted names.

It didn't stop the Big 3 from taking Preston Tuckers ideas.

206 posted on 07/09/2006 12:24:38 AM PDT by Despot of the Delta ("Never argue with an idiot. They will bring you down to their level and beat you with experience")
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To: durasell

OK, I will. I did show design work for Disney and Universal in the early 90's and learned the hard way that they make their own rules through the power of puppet governments.


207 posted on 07/09/2006 12:25:09 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: durasell

That is not what you said.

Technically if you get a toyota and alter the trademarks and logos to make it be a Honda, then you are breaking the law, but I doubt the company would take action.


208 posted on 07/09/2006 12:25:14 AM PDT by Central Scrutiniser ("You can't really dust for vomit.")
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To: JoeSixPack1

Ever see the famous Disney Orgy drawing? The guy who published that lost his case.


209 posted on 07/09/2006 12:25:57 AM PDT by Central Scrutiniser ("You can't really dust for vomit.")
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To: JoeSixPack1

Hollywood is Hollywood. It's always made moral movies and immoral movies. It's always been a grab bag. Theater was the same way, but Hollywood is an easy target because of the actors' behavior and perceived financial excess. In reality, actors have always been a bit screwy and Hollywood is mostly a middleclass business.


210 posted on 07/09/2006 12:26:02 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: RadioAstronomer
I agree with the this ruling. If this practice was allowed to stand, who knows what would be next to be "scrubbed" from movies.

Ah, I see.

So, let’s say I purchase a run-down house and pay the owner fair market value. After closing, I decide to renovate the house. However, the old owner doesn’t like my taste in architecture, so gets to veto my renovation.

Sounds like you are advocating harsh restrictions on a property owners right to make alterations to their property. Am I mistaken?

The article does not explain it well, but I think what this outfit does is buy a DVD, then re-sell it as a sanitized version, so there is no net royalty loss for the hollywood freaks.

211 posted on 07/09/2006 12:26:16 AM PDT by stillonaroll
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To: Strategerist
Ok, so someone buys 1000 copies of the Passion of the Christ, adds in scenes of Christ uttering profanities and having sex, sells them, but destroys the originals.

There is a movie somewhat along that vein, it's called Jesus Christ Superstar.

212 posted on 07/09/2006 12:27:07 AM PDT by BigSkyFreeper (There is no alternative to the GOP except varying degrees of insanity.)
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To: albyjimc2

Try answering back when you have young children.


213 posted on 07/09/2006 12:27:23 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (Speak Softly and Carry A Big Stick)
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To: JoeSixPack1

OK, I will. I did show design work for Disney and Universal in the early 90's...


You have my sympathies for having worked for Mousewitz. Like they used to say, If you don't show up early on Saturday morning, don't even bother coming in Sunday.


214 posted on 07/09/2006 12:27:56 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: FreedomCalls
Ands you missed the point that the copyright holder has already given permission for the exact same cuts to be made in the TV and airline versions of these movies.

For air. Not for sale. Their call, whether you agree with it or not.

215 posted on 07/09/2006 12:29:24 AM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: stillonaroll

Architects don't copyright their houses or disallow buyers to make modifications.

Apples and oranges.


216 posted on 07/09/2006 12:29:32 AM PDT by Central Scrutiniser ("You can't really dust for vomit.")
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To: Central Scrutiniser

If you create a "widget" that specifically fits Harley motorcycles and market the product as a Harley part, Harley will come down on you like a ton of bricks and eat your first born.

But if you state the 'widget' "FITS" Harley motorcycles you can stay fat and happy. :-)


217 posted on 07/09/2006 12:30:37 AM PDT by JoeSixPack1
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To: Central Scrutiniser; stillonaroll

http://www.copyright.gov/help/faq/faq-protect.html

WHAT WORKS ARE PROTECTED?
Copyright protects "original works of authorship" that are fixed in a tangible form of expression. The fixation need not be directly perceptible so long as it may be communicated with the aid of a machine or device. Copyrightable works include the following categories:

literary works;
musical works, including any accompanying words
dramatic works, including any accompanying music
pantomimes and choreographic works
pictorial, graphic, and sculptural works
motion pictures and other audiovisual works
sound recordings
architectural works


These categories should be viewed broadly. For example, computer programs and most "compilations" may be registered as "literary works"; maps and architectural plans may be registered as "pictorial, graphic, and sculptural works."


218 posted on 07/09/2006 12:31:45 AM PDT by durasell (!)
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To: Central Scrutiniser
No, a car doesn't have a copyright, its not intellectual property. Come on, you should know better than that.

The debate, at this point, is not about intellectual property. The debate centers on what rights you have when you purchase a DVD. Are you buying a license or are you buying a material item? If you are only buying a license, you are correct. If on the other hand, you are buying a material item, in this case a single physical version of the item in question, then you are wrong.

If in fact you are buying a license, when is this license agreed to? Did I sign a license agreement when I purchased it? Was there some sort of "By opening this CD you agree to these terms of use" sticker on it? No. If it is simply a material item, it is no different than modifying a car.

219 posted on 07/09/2006 12:32:26 AM PDT by killjoy (Dirka dirka mohammed jihad! Sherpa sherpa bakalah!)
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To: ReignOfError
It's their right, it's their choice, and you don't have the right to steal someone else's property because you disapprove of how they choose to use it.

I don't get it. What's being "stolen" here? After I buy a book, DVD, or other copyrighted work, it's mine to deface as I see fit is it not?


220 posted on 07/09/2006 12:33:57 AM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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