[Eagles Talon IV]

I believe you are forgetting, perhaps conveniently, the fact that the Clinton Administration allowed there largest political contributor, LORAL SPACE and it's owner Bernie Sanders to sell China technology that allowed them to increase the throw weight, range and accuracy of their missiles. This sale was made against the advice of the CIA, FBI, State Dept and Pentagon, none of whom would sign off on the deal. Clinton then had the authority for this sale transfered to the Commerce Dept and the sale was made.

When it all came out LORAL SPACE was fined $14,000,000, a relative pittance, and China received technology that by all accounts advanced their missile program anywhere from 15-25 years.

[Eagles6]

It was Bernie Schwartz(sp?) not Bernie Sanders. Everything else is true.

[Magnum44]

Like many out there, you've given too much credibility to the reporting done on the PRC/Clinton scandal of the 90's. Loral does not make RLG,s or even rockets. They build commercial satellites and sell an integrated launch package, meaning they go out and buy the launcher and guarantee the satellite will be put on orbit for the customer.

Let me say I am a conservative, retired officer, and Reagan, Bush supporter (dont agree with illegal amnesty) before I continue, because I don't appreciate the vitriolic response I get when I talk about this, ok?

Truth is Loral, or rather a few individuals at Loral, like many other companies during the Clinton admin, violated some export control rules when investigating the failure of a launch of a Loral satellite on a Long March they had legally contracted with the PRC. (This was permitted then because Clinton had moved control of this technology from defense to state department, something those of us in defense would have disagreed with).

The violation was the passing of a report that explained some design issues with the Long March guidance system that led to the failure to the PRC. We did not give them new guidance systems. This was indeed a violation, and the company was properly fined.

Boeing was also fined for disclosures it made during this time. And if you recall, several of the computer manufacturers were also fined or criticized for selling the PRC Silicon Graphics machines, etc.

Loral became a rallying point for conservatives in congress to blame Clinton for the failure to protect this technology. Bernie SCHWARTZ, not Sanders, who I have no love for as a democratic supporter, became a symbol for the Republicans (again, my party) to attack.

Bernie deserved some of this, the company deserved the fine due to the export control failure, as did Boeing and others, and the export control of this technology needed to be put back under defense. Blame Clinton for not caring about our national defense, and go after individuals for violating rules.

But don't think for a second that the PRC doesn't have tens of thousands of very smart people developing these new systems on their own or buying the necessary stuff from other countries.

I just get tired of hearing the "LORAL gave it away" mantra. Its uneducated talking points from the Cox report that, as stated above, was an indictment of the Clinton administration policy failure.

And finally, no I don't work at Loral. So no flaming please.

[staytrue]

I think you forgot to mention that loral was a big contributor to clinton and the DNC.

Also, Clinton said "I never made any decision, based SOLELY on campaign contributions"

[Diogenesis]

X42: "We got OUR DNC donations. Ha Ha."

[Seeking the truth]

I know you mean Bernie Schwartz.

I used to date his right hand "girl" back when Loral was small and their largest account was the Israeli Armed Forces, whom they supplied with various electronics.

Loral was based in Yonkers, NY in those days circa 1975.

He was a Type A driven nutcake prone to shouting & screaming.